Topic: Flee the Harlot Church
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Thu 01/15/09 11:52 AM


Christians claim it is the word of God, but then they threw his "old laws" away in favor of a kinder gentler god with new laws of turning the other cheek.


So was the "kinder, gentler god" the same god of the OT? He just lightened up a bit? How come he went from being a murderous, oppressive tyrant to being somewhat of a less murderous, oppressive tyrant? That doesn’t make any sense at all. Is there one god? Or is there two gods? It sounds as if people are attempting to make up explanations for why the god of the OT was an asshol- yet now we should take his word seriously because hes not longer an ass.




Since no Christians are answering your questions, I can tell you the truth about it.




frown Im not part of the club apparently:tongue:

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Thu 01/15/09 11:54 AM



Christians claim it is the word of God, but then they threw his "old laws" away in favor of a kinder gentler god with new laws of turning the other cheek.


So was the "kinder, gentler god" the same god of the OT? He just lightened up a bit? How come he went from being a murderous, oppressive tyrant to being somewhat of a less murderous, oppressive tyrant? That doesn’t make any sense at all. Is there one god? Or is there two gods? It sounds as if people are attempting to make up explanations for why the god of the OT was an asshol- yet now we should take his word seriously because hes not longer an ass.




Since no Christians are answering your questions, I can tell you the truth about it.




frown Im not part of the club apparently:tongue:


What club would that be Mirror? You have never declared that you are a Christian.

TBRich's photo
Thu 01/15/09 11:55 AM
I think Mirror goes both ways LOL

Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/15/09 11:56 AM

I think Mirror goes both ways LOL


He's a bitheist bigsmile

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Thu 01/15/09 11:58 AM


The heart of man is wicked and deceitful and his tongue is full of poison. We hate the natural condition of man. But man's nature is imperfect and fallen. someday we shall all change in a twinkling of an eye and be restored. At least some of us.


Ok this is going to sound mean but no meaner than what is above, unless one can't see the manipulation in the words.

How perfect is it to set man up to mistrust his fellow man as well as himself with the repeated assertions that he is deceitful and wicked and should hate his own natural condition. Set up the conditions where by you can control a man that has no self worth but that which you allow him in some limited and controlled way. Yet at the very same time the charismatic leader type sees the value in using the man with no self worth to do his bidding.

Now we have created the church leader and the followers.

Wow the rulers of the world must have seen the value of manipulation in the bible immediately. The value in using peoples fears against them to gain power and treasure, and those that will be so frozen in their fears, staunch in their prejudices who will be the work force to gain that power and treasure.

How brilliant that the same book can empower some and enslave others. And of course avoid too much education for the masses, it should be seen as evil for obvious reasons, take care not to give women too much power, especially, you know how they are.. grin

So now you have more that will be the slaves and the few that will rule the world.

Absolutely brilliant, add Intelligent design and creationism to solve the boredom factor and write a few zillion books from Nostradamus to Left behind series and you have access to the idle and depressed minds of the new age.. wow, it just gets bigger and bigger until all minds are as obedient as all others.


Wow, I'm a believer!

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Thu 01/15/09 12:04 PM



The heart of man is wicked and deceitful and his tongue is full of poison. We hate the natural condition of man. But man's nature is imperfect and fallen. someday we shall all change in a twinkling of an eye and be restored. At least some of us.


Ok this is going to sound mean but no meaner than what is above, unless one can't see the manipulation in the words.

How perfect is it to set man up to mistrust his fellow man as well as himself with the repeated assertions that he is deceitful and wicked and should hate his own natural condition. Set up the conditions where by you can control a man that has no self worth but that which you allow him in some limited and controlled way. Yet at the very same time the charismatic leader type sees the value in using the man with no self worth to do his bidding.

Now we have created the church leader and the followers.

Wow the rulers of the world must have seen the value of manipulation in the bible immediately. The value in using peoples fears against them to gain power and treasure, and those that will be so frozen in their fears, staunch in their prejudices who will be the work force to gain that power and treasure.

How brilliant that the same book can empower some and enslave others. And of course avoid too much education for the masses, it should be seen as evil for obvious reasons, take care not to give women too much power, especially, you know how they are.. grin

So now you have more that will be the slaves and the few that will rule the world.

Absolutely brilliant, add Intelligent design and creationism to solve the boredom factor and write a few zillion books from Nostradamus to Left behind series and you have access to the idle and depressed minds of the new age.. wow, it just gets bigger and bigger until all minds are as obedient as all others.


Wow, I'm a believer!

You know I once thought that love was more or less a given thing, seems the more I gave the less I got. Love was out to get me that the way it seemed, disappointment haunted every dream. then I saw Krimsa, now I am a believer.

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 01/15/09 12:06 PM


I think Mirror goes both ways LOL


He's a bitheist bigsmile
laugh

Lindamgd's photo
Thu 01/15/09 01:04 PM




The heart of man is wicked and deceitful and his tongue is full of poison. We hate the natural condition of man. But man's nature is imperfect and fallen. someday we shall all change in a twinkling of an eye and be restored. At least some of us.


Ok this is going to sound mean but no meaner than what is above, unless one can't see the manipulation in the words.

How perfect is it to set man up to mistrust his fellow man as well as himself with the repeated assertions that he is deceitful and wicked and should hate his own natural condition. Set up the conditions where by you can control a man that has no self worth but that which you allow him in some limited and controlled way. Yet at the very same time the charismatic leader type sees the value in using the man with no self worth to do his bidding.

Now we have created the church leader and the followers.

Wow the rulers of the world must have seen the value of manipulation in the bible immediately. The value in using peoples fears against them to gain power and treasure, and those that will be so frozen in their fears, staunch in their prejudices who will be the work force to gain that power and treasure.

How brilliant that the same book can empower some and enslave others. And of course avoid too much education for the masses, it should be seen as evil for obvious reasons, take care not to give women too much power, especially, you know how they are.. grin

So now you have more that will be the slaves and the few that will rule the world.

Absolutely brilliant, add Intelligent design and creationism to solve the boredom factor and write a few zillion books from Nostradamus to Left behind series and you have access to the idle and depressed minds of the new age.. wow, it just gets bigger and bigger until all minds are as obedient as all others.


Wow, I'm a believer!

You know I once thought that love was more or less a given thing, seems the more I gave the less I got. Love was out to get me that the way it seemed, disappointment haunted every dream. then I saw Krimsa, now I am a believer.



I started reading this thread from its beginning. Being analytical in my thought processes, I have been going up and down, in and out, agreeing and not agreeing. When I was still working as an inpatient psychatric RN, I listened carefully to what everyone had to say, supporting them in their belief system (some superiors called me wishy washy), and when all was said and done, I believed it all as long as it did not hurt me or someone else!

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Thu 01/15/09 01:09 PM
So for example, Rod Parsley preaches that there can be no doubt in your faith that god will heal you and someone isn't healed what are the consequences of this belief. Or, as per Benny Hinn, your faith was related to how much money you give so if you are not healed than your faith is not strong enough. There are consequences for intentions and beliefs.

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Thu 01/15/09 01:13 PM

So for example, Rod Parsley preaches that there can be no doubt in your faith that god will heal you and someone isn't healed what are the consequences of this belief. Or, as per Benny Hinn, your faith was related to how much money you give so if you are not healed than your faith is not strong enough. There are consequences for intentions and beliefs.


I'm sorry! Are you speaking to me?

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Thu 01/15/09 01:46 PM

Just as Judah and Jerusalem were once in Babylonian Captivity, so are God's people today who are joined to the PIG EATING CHURCH in their hearts.

The church is not ruled by the Holy-spirit but by WITCHCRAFT.

The church is practicing witchcraft ,idolatry and confusion and it is an abomination to the Almighty.

Some people think they can compromise with a false religion ex. christianity. They try to serve Messiah in the camp of the Anti-Christ. They think they can serve Almighty Yah inwardly although they remain in a denomination that deviates from the Doctrine of Yahushua. If this is you, you are Mistaken.

'Come out of her,my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you recieve of her plagues...'

Stop eating Pig.
Stop worshipping pagan messiah jesus.
Stop celebrating pagan holidays.
Stop Venerating the Sun.
Stop worshipping Mary, the queen of heaven.
Stop practicing idolatry, bowing down to statues.
Stop wearing carved images of pagan jesus around your neck.
Get out of your flesh.
Stop loving lies and practicing satans falsehoods.
Stop agreeing with the devil.
Jezebel spirit wives stop ruling over your husbands and learn to submit to him. humble yourselves.
Ahab spirit husbands stop being a wimp and be a man.Be the leader you are ordained to be.Love and respect your wives and children provide for your household.
Submit to the one who made you.your Creator.
Love Him and guard His Commandments.

I can go on but you get the idea.
SUBMIT to YAH

The church is the Mother of Harlots and if you share in her sins you are the sons and daughters of Babylon.

'For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubborness is as iniquity and idolatry. 1 Sam 15:22-23



I said this out of Love and Respect.:heart:


Yamin
:heart: :smile: :heart: :smile: :heart: :smile: :heart:





I had a whole rap/thump thing goin on there....


you got style, sister....bigsmile

as to the message.....?


not my thing.... and the only harlots I know, are the ones who see THEMSELVES that way...


Just BE.


TBRich's photo
Thu 01/15/09 01:54 PM


So for example, Rod Parsley preaches that there can be no doubt in your faith that god will heal you and someone isn't healed what are the consequences of this belief. Or, as per Benny Hinn, your faith was related to how much money you give so if you are not healed than your faith is not strong enough. There are consequences for intentions and beliefs.


I'm sorry! Are you speaking to me?


I really am just putting out random thoughts, as I am too tired and shy to directly speak to someone.

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Thu 01/15/09 02:01 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 01/15/09 02:03 PM

Okay lets see how I measure up with these rules:

"Stop eating Pig."


~~I don't really like pork anyway. I eat turkey bacon. No problem I can do that.


"Stop worshipping pagan messiah jesus."


~~ No problem, I don't do that.

"Stop celebrating pagan holidays."


I wish I could abolish commercial Christmas.bigsmile

"Stop Venerating the Sun."


~~"Venerating means: To regard with respect, reverence, or heartfelt deference." I don't think we could live without the sun, I'm sorry. I do regard it with a great deal of respect, so I pass on that one.

Stop worshipping Mary, the queen of heaven.


Who? No problem.


Stop practicing idolatry, bowing down to statues.


What about my blow-up doll of Adrian Paul?bigsmile


Stop wearing carved images of pagan jesus around your neck.


No problem.

Get out of your flesh.


Literally? Okay I can do some soul travel and astral projection.


Stop loving lies and practicing satans falsehoods.


I am the High Priestess of the Universal Life Church of brutal truth and honesty, I hate lies! :angry: Er... who is Satan?

Stop agreeing with the devil.


Who's the devil?


Jezebel spirit wives stop ruling over your husbands and learn to submit to him. humble yourselves.


I don't have a husband, and don't want one. I will never humble myself before a man.


Ahab spirit husbands stop being a wimp and be a man.Be the leader you are ordained to be.Love and respect your wives and children provide for your household.


If only they could.


Submit to the one who made you.your Creator.
Love Him and guard His Commandments.


Who ever created me, I thank they very much. But since this is a free will zone, there are no commandments,only suggestions.



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Thu 01/15/09 02:11 PM


I think Mirror goes both ways LOL


He's a bitheist bigsmile
bigsmile You would probably be surprised at how much I agree with you Krimsa.flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 01/15/09 02:17 PM


Okay lets see how I measure up with these rules:

"Stop eating Pig."


~~I don't really like pork anyway. I eat turkey bacon. No problem I can do that.


"Stop worshipping pagan messiah jesus."


~~ No problem, I don't do that.

"Stop celebrating pagan holidays."


I wish I could abolish commercial Christmas.bigsmile

"Stop Venerating the Sun."


~~"Venerating means: To regard with respect, reverence, or heartfelt deference." I don't think we could live without the sun, I'm sorry. I do regard it with a great deal of respect, so I pass on that one.

Stop worshipping Mary, the queen of heaven.


Who? No problem.


Stop practicing idolatry, bowing down to statues.


What about my blow-up doll of Adrian Paul?bigsmile


Stop wearing carved images of pagan jesus around your neck.


No problem.

Get out of your flesh.


Literally? Okay I can do some soul travel and astral projection.


Stop loving lies and practicing satans falsehoods.


I am the High Priestess of the Universal Life Church of brutal truth and honesty, I hate lies! :angry: Er... who is Satan?

Stop agreeing with the devil.


Who's the devil?


Jezebel spirit wives stop ruling over your husbands and learn to submit to him. humble yourselves.


I don't have a husband, and don't want one. I will never humble myself before a man.


Ahab spirit husbands stop being a wimp and be a man.Be the leader you are ordained to be.Love and respect your wives and children provide for your household.


If only they could.


Submit to the one who made you.your Creator.
Love Him and guard His Commandments.


Who ever created me, I thank they very much. But since this is a free will zone, there are no commandments,only suggestions.



flowerforyou I think perhaps you are taking some of that a little too literal darling.flowerforyouAnd I dont measure up to those standards very well either.:heart: But I do recognize the scriptural authority (I know Krimsa and JB,I know, you dont have to say it)and I am willing to admit my short comings.flowerforyou I never claimed to be a morally superior person.bigsmile I try to do the right thing but I dont always do.bigsmile

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Thu 01/15/09 03:09 PM
I think perhaps you are taking some of that a little too literal darling.



I think it is meant to be taken literally. Why wouldn't it be?
I expect people to say what they mean and mean what they say when they are passing out specific rules and regulations. Being ambiguous is only going to confuse people.


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Thu 01/15/09 03:52 PM

Im asking who's words were being spoken in the OT?


Been at work all day...

Yahweh's Word were being spoken in the Scriptures. Notice I said Scriptures because technically there is no OT and NT it is all one and flowing.

Krisma I must tell you that your posts about how xmas, easter and yule originally and STILL are pagan. Is teh TRUTH. You know that why don't the xtians???

As for why it sometimes written YHWH, Yahweh, or YAH...same thing, the CHARACTER is the same.

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Thu 01/15/09 04:04 PM

Yahgirl.. I tried.

I rest my case... and will say no more....

One closing note:

It is NOT in trying to keep laws of the OLD TESTAMENT, that gets you saved, Yahgirl...

You must be born again ,yahgirl.
Don't dismiss this....

Also...Jesus brought us a a new covenant...

You are still trying to keep the old jewish laws....legalism.

No one could keep the law..that is why God sent us a saviour.

Praying you will see this and get saved...and get out from under legalism.

Be Blessed now.



I did not say that by keeping the law one is saved. Please re-read what I have written.

Why are you assuming that I have not been immersed?

Messiah kept the LAW. He is MY EXAMPLE. Yahshua is His name, His name means Yah's Salvation. HalleluYAH means Praise YAHWEH. <--look it up.

There is NO legalism in my worship of Yahweh. There is ONLY OBEDIENCE.

My Messiah did the same things, that Yamin, Miles and I do...He kept the Set Apart Days, HE Kept the Sabbath, He abstained from idol worship, He only ate CLEAN FOODS.

These things are NOT hard to do, all you have to do is open your heart and allow YAHWEH to give you His Spirit. There is Shalom, and JOY and LOVE in Yahweh's TRUTH.

I pray that you open your heart and allow Him to Teach you His Truth.

Shalom!

Please POST the Scripture that said Yahshua brought a new covenant.

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Thu 01/15/09 05:00 PM


Im asking who's words were being spoken in the OT?


Been at work all day...

Yahweh's Word were being spoken in the Scriptures. Notice I said Scriptures because technically there is no OT and NT it is all one and flowing.

Krisma I must tell you that your posts about how xmas, easter and yule originally and STILL are pagan. Is teh TRUTH. You know that why don't the xtians???

As for why it sometimes written YHWH, Yahweh, or YAH...same thing, the CHARACTER is the same.


Thanks for actually answering the question head on. That’s what I figured. It’s supposed to be Yahweh the entire way through speaking. That’s why I feel it impossible to try to denounce the OT. Your god essentially wrote the entire bible ear to ear IF you choose to believe in the concept behind "divine inspiration." You can’t pick and choose what you like. You must take the good with the bad.

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Thu 01/15/09 05:29 PM



Im asking who's words were being spoken in the OT?


Been at work all day...

Yahweh's Word were being spoken in the Scriptures. Notice I said Scriptures because technically there is no OT and NT it is all one and flowing.

Krisma I must tell you that your posts about how xmas, easter and yule originally and STILL are pagan. Is teh TRUTH. You know that why don't the xtians???

As for why it sometimes written YHWH, Yahweh, or YAH...same thing, the CHARACTER is the same.


Thanks for actually answering the question head on. That’s what I figured. It’s supposed to be Yahweh the entire way through speaking. That’s why I feel it impossible to try to denounce the OT. Your god essentially wrote the entire bible ear to ear IF you choose to believe in the concept behind "divine inspiration." You can’t pick and choose what you like. You must take the good with the bad.


HalleluYAH! You get it! You are exactly right! Now that is funny you (correct me if I am wrong) consider yourself a pagan yet you understand something so simple.

There is NO WAY one can say that what is commonly called the OT has been done away with. If one says that they TRUST in the ELOHIM and His Word, which is Scripture. Yet in the same breath says that the Torah has been done away with, then it is clear to me that, that individual clearly worships some other g-d and NOT the ELOHIM of Scripture.

No matter how you slice it one cannot pick and choose, one MUST be obedient to the TRUTH of Scripture..