Topic: Flee the Harlot Church
Yamin's photo
Thu 01/15/09 06:14 PM


Yahgirl.. I tried.

I rest my case... and will say no more....

One closing note:

It is NOT in trying to keep laws of the OLD TESTAMENT, that gets you saved, Yahgirl...

You must be born again ,yahgirl.
Don't dismiss this....

Also...Jesus brought us a a new covenant...

You are still trying to keep the old jewish laws....legalism.

No one could keep the law..that is why God sent us a saviour.

Praying you will see this and get saved...and get out from under legalism.

Be Blessed now.



I did not say that by keeping the law one is saved. Please re-read what I have written.

Why are you assuming that I have not been immersed?

Messiah kept the LAW. He is MY EXAMPLE. Yahshua is His name, His name means Yah's Salvation. HalleluYAH means Praise YAHWEH. <--look it up.

There is NO legalism in my worship of Yahweh. There is ONLY OBEDIENCE.

My Messiah did the same things, that Yamin, Miles and I do...He kept the Set Apart Days, HE Kept the Sabbath, He abstained from idol worship, He only ate CLEAN FOODS.

These things are NOT hard to do, all you have to do is open your heart and allow YAHWEH to give you His Spirit. There is Shalom, and JOY and LOVE in Yahweh's TRUTH.

I pray that you open your heart and allow Him to Teach you His Truth.

Shalom!

Please POST the Scripture that said Yahshua brought a new covenant.


MS, I do not understand why you have the impression that Miles...Yahgirl...and myself...the three of us ,are not Born-Again,Saved or Immersed just because we guard YHHW's Commandments regarding the Appointed Times and Set-Apart days,and of course the Dietary Law,calling on the Sacred Name. Your impression is far from the truth. We are witnessess for Yahushua everything we say and do is out of love because we care for you all. Praise Yah!smile2

Yamin:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

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Thu 01/15/09 06:30 PM
Lotta nuts around here, where's that damn squirrel when I need him. tongue2

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Thu 01/15/09 08:06 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 01/15/09 08:10 PM
I have also noticed that some people think that they are the only ones who are saved or "born again." I am also "born again" in my own relationship with all that is, that is known as God. But alas some people feel that they are the only ones.

I don't know why. For me, to be "born again" is to reflect on your life and reach a cross road and become new as you step onto a path of unconditional love and compassion.


It is the judgment card, where you think of your own demise and reflect on your life and truly change your heart and enter the path toward divine love.



And it is the Star, where you reach out to your higher self and that is connected to the divine.


sparksley's photo
Thu 01/15/09 08:23 PM
Flee the harlot church? I can do one better, and flee all church.


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Thu 01/15/09 08:34 PM

Flee the harlot church? I can do one better, and flee all church.




Okay I will! :banana:

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Thu 01/15/09 08:40 PM

Flee the harlot church? I can do one better, and flee all church.


Done!! winking

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Tue 01/27/09 03:07 PM
Edited by Suhnshine on Tue 01/27/09 03:10 PM
Wow! It's hot in here.pitchfork

I dont think people should be discouraged from going to church if they enjoy it.flowerforyou


davidben1's photo
Tue 01/27/09 05:13 PM

Wow! It's hot in here.pitchfork

I dont think people should be discouraged from going to church if they enjoy it.flowerforyou




didn't you say god was within?

why would one need to go lookin for um?

just wonderin as a learnin disabled one as myself need help with da learnin?




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Tue 01/27/09 05:22 PM


Wow! It's hot in here.pitchfork

I dont think people should be discouraged from going to church if they enjoy it.flowerforyou




didn't you say god was within?

why would one need to go lookin for um?

just wonderin as a learnin disabled one as myself need help with da learnin?






You must do what makes you happy is all Im sayin.

davidben1's photo
Tue 01/27/09 07:46 PM



Wow! It's hot in here.pitchfork

I dont think people should be discouraged from going to church if they enjoy it.flowerforyou




didn't you say god was within?

why would one need to go lookin for um?

just wonderin as a learnin disabled one as myself need help with da learnin?






You must do what makes you happy is all Im sayin.



i sorry, i thought somebody wanted to do what they wanted and say how church was not the most good for them, so how do you encourage all do what they want, by sending devil forks in your message.....

it seems you wish them to do what you want, and not tell somebody anything negative about church, which means you MUST GO TO CHURCH?

i just bettcha.....

nobody endorses a product less the use it right?

so you must have a good church that give you peace and comfort, and say god in inside, as that what you said right?

so how does your decide who is of god and who is not?

if the job of this church is to save the souls, oh, but perhaps i should not assume that?

what be the sign of a lost soul, that need to be converted to your god, and your church must have it's own name, since everybody seems to feel better picking the best name for god.....


damn girl, you got me all twisted around....

you are right, i don't get it too much..........


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Wed 01/28/09 06:07 PM




Wow! It's hot in here.pitchfork

I dont think people should be discouraged from going to church if they enjoy it.flowerforyou




didn't you say god was within?

why would one need to go lookin for um?

just wonderin as a learnin disabled one as myself need help with da learnin?






You must do what makes you happy is all Im sayin.



i sorry, i thought somebody wanted to do what they wanted and say how church was not the most good for them, so how do you encourage all do what they want, by sending devil forks in your message.....

it seems you wish them to do what you want, and not tell somebody anything negative about church, which means you MUST GO TO CHURCH?

i just bettcha.....

nobody endorses a product less the use it right?

so you must have a good church that give you peace and comfort, and say god in inside, as that what you said right?

so how does your decide who is of god and who is not?

if the job of this church is to save the souls, oh, but perhaps i should not assume that?

what be the sign of a lost soul, that need to be converted to your god, and your church must have it's own name, since everybody seems to feel better picking the best name for god.....


damn girl, you got me all twisted around....

you are right, i don't get it too much..........




when was the last time you been to church david? do you pray? do you worship? or just criticize? In case you dont know God loves you too. I dont know if your of God or if you are saved but if you lived in my area I would invite you to church so you can be baptized. The pastor would put his hand on your forehead with some holy oil and pray over you. You need a life changing experience.Keep the faith david.flowerforyou

SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:17 PM

Why can’t you just say "Yahweh"? Why all this abbreviation stuff?
I think that it is YHVH as there is no W in the Hebrew. Will have to check again now. Pronounced Yah Ha Vay

God is smart enough to know whom we are addressing anyway. GOD, Our Heavenly Father, Yah, Yahweh, YHWH, YHVH
Jesus, Yashua, yehshua, Christ

He created all, I believe he can figure out who we are praying to.

SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:19 PM

Well the question is simple really. How can one "disassociate" themselves form the OT? If you are Christian, that is the word of god. This is what I have never really been able to get a straight answer on. I have heard two explanations that make no sense. One is, that was "old Jewish law" and the other is, yes it was the word of god but only applied to Israel.

What the hell does that mean?

The New Testament did not do away with the Old. They go hand in hand. Both refer to the other at times.

Hey Krimsa

SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:21 PM

Im asking who's words were being spoken in the OT?
Inspired by God, written by Man as far as I am concerned Krimsa, can't speak for others though.

SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:25 PM


Im asking who's words were being spoken in the OT?


Christians claim it is the word of God, but then they threw his "old laws" away in favor of a kinder gentler god with new laws of turning the other cheek.

Back then, every alien or "fallen angel" that could glow or throw his voice or do some magic trick was a god. Eventually there were many who pretended to be gods or messengers of gods. Stories were told, people wrote about them.

Even in this day and age people claim to know, see and talk to their god as if he walks in the flesh on the earth. Nobody takes them seriously really. But back then, they did.

That is why there were so many gods. Everyone was called "Lord" who wielded power and influence over the people. A "Lord" is not necessarily a god, but it came to mean that.




That turning the other cheek thing is not taught right in my opinion. If you are discussing Gods word with an unbeliever and you make them so mad they strike you, turn the other cheek, you have laid to much of on them at once and provoked them. However, if someone comes up to you on the street and strikes you, you stomp a mudhole in their @ss, not turn your cheek. The way I believe, I haven't thrown away any of it. Jesus says he came to not change one "tittle" of the law, but to fulfill it. The old and new compliment each other and go together.

Hey JB

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:27 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Wed 01/28/09 07:28 PM
That’s what Im asking Sharp. There have been a few Christians on forum who keep insisting that there were no Christians yet in the OT. I understand that they are asserting that they did not go by that term yet because Jesus was still yet to come.

However the point is that the god is supposed to always be the same god and that’s Yahweh right? He was the one asking for the stoning and the atrocities in the OT.

SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:30 PM



Yahgirl.. I tried.

I rest my case... and will say no more....

One closing note:

It is NOT in trying to keep laws of the OLD TESTAMENT, that gets you saved, Yahgirl...

You must be born again ,yahgirl.
Don't dismiss this....

Also...Jesus brought us a a new covenant...

You are still trying to keep the old jewish laws....legalism.

No one could keep the law..that is why God sent us a saviour.

Praying you will see this and get saved...and get out from under legalism.

Be Blessed now.



I did not say that by keeping the law one is saved. Please re-read what I have written.

Why are you assuming that I have not been immersed?

Messiah kept the LAW. He is MY EXAMPLE. Yahshua is His name, His name means Yah's Salvation. HalleluYAH means Praise YAHWEH. <--look it up.

There is NO legalism in my worship of Yahweh. There is ONLY OBEDIENCE.

My Messiah did the same things, that Yamin, Miles and I do...He kept the Set Apart Days, HE Kept the Sabbath, He abstained from idol worship, He only ate CLEAN FOODS.

These things are NOT hard to do, all you have to do is open your heart and allow YAHWEH to give you His Spirit. There is Shalom, and JOY and LOVE in Yahweh's TRUTH.

I pray that you open your heart and allow Him to Teach you His Truth.

Shalom!

Please POST the Scripture that said Yahshua brought a new covenant.


MS, I do not understand why you have the impression that Miles...Yahgirl...and myself...the three of us ,are not Born-Again,Saved or Immersed just because we guard YHHW's Commandments regarding the Appointed Times and Set-Apart days,and of course the Dietary Law,calling on the Sacred Name. Your impression is far from the truth. We are witnessess for Yahushua everything we say and do is out of love because we care for you all. Praise Yah!smile2

Yamin:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
MS thinks she has a special walk with GOD that none of us have

davidben1's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:38 PM





Wow! It's hot in here.pitchfork

I dont think people should be discouraged from going to church if they enjoy it.flowerforyou




didn't you say god was within?

why would one need to go lookin for um?

just wonderin as a learnin disabled one as myself need help with da learnin?






You must do what makes you happy is all Im sayin.



i sorry, i thought somebody wanted to do what they wanted and say how church was not the most good for them, so how do you encourage all do what they want, by sending devil forks in your message.....

it seems you wish them to do what you want, and not tell somebody anything negative about church, which means you MUST GO TO CHURCH?

i just bettcha.....

nobody endorses a product less the use it right?

so you must have a good church that give you peace and comfort, and say god in inside, as that what you said right?

so how does your decide who is of god and who is not?

if the job of this church is to save the souls, oh, but perhaps i should not assume that?

what be the sign of a lost soul, that need to be converted to your god, and your church must have it's own name, since everybody seems to feel better picking the best name for god.....


damn girl, you got me all twisted around....

you are right, i don't get it too much..........




when was the last time you been to church david? do you pray? do you worship? or just criticize? In case you dont know God loves you too. I dont know if your of God or if you are saved but if you lived in my area I would invite you to church so you can be baptized. The pastor would put his hand on your forehead with some holy oil and pray over you. You need a life changing experience.Keep the faith david.flowerforyou


indeed, you are indeed most correct, but life changing days for me have as already come???

you access the past to be as the future???

yea, is it not written all are of the church of ONE???

is it not written this one reside as one with any believer of text within???

it is still not understood why one would travel by motor car or foot to a building to find this god within???

does this god inside only come out at designated god places???

am i as the beggar cast only a few drops of righteouss oil???

how is one baptized in human water to become as not human???

your rendering of understanding of your god handbook are most confusing???

again, you send flowers with vinegar???

this seems most to fit what your book say be ways of sorcery and deciet of intent, a practice said to be used by heathens, that speak not the true motive of the heart???

are you sure you are of the same god as your god handbook, as one's that hide true self are said to be more the opposite force of good, these said to spread energy not of god, but of deciet and sly of heart???












SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:39 PM

That’s what Im asking Sharp. There have been a few Christians on forum who keep insisting that there were no Christians yet in the OT. I understand that they are asserting that they did not go by that term yet because Jesus was still yet to come.

However the point is that the god is supposed to always be the same god and that’s Yahweh right? He was the one asking for the stoning and the atrocities in the OT.

Same GOD always. The term Christian came about after Jesus, meaning Christ man in the greek. Yes the laws of God did demand stoning at times for various offenses. as for as atrocities, when he had people kill people as in the ones occupying the promised land, I don't think it was an atrocity to me anyway, If God demanded it then I believe they deserved it for whatever reasons he gives. These people were some of the ones that had giants, "goliath " as an example and had as their ancestors some of the ones that had mingled with the fallen ones. GOD doesn't order the killing of innocent people, I'm convinced they had deserved it. I don't have my bible handy at the moment but it does give their transgressions as far as GOD was concerned I believe.

But as we know by now, my views and understanding of scripture are not shared by many Christians either.

SharpShooter10's photo
Wed 01/28/09 07:40 PM
I can't believe I read this entire thread noway

must go thread hopping now, after I get a good stiff drink drinker bigsmile