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Topic: If you think intelligent design should be taught in schools.
catwoman96's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:33 PM


As a Pastafarian* (edit, oops sorry about that) i am equally adamant that the Pastafarian version of events be reinforced to your children in school as well drinker
So, catwoman, we agree in our stance on religious belief in school drinker


God is real....he made me. he made me and i should give him more devotion than i do

JasmineInglewood's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:33 PM




Psh... science is the tool of the devil


I like it.happy I took a lot of it in college.




because you are obviously a disciple of the devil :tongue: bigsmile


Don't tell my Pastor.:wink:

My child goes to a Christian school too.


laugh
don't worry you're secret is safe with me :wink:

catwoman96's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:35 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Mon 12/01/08 07:35 PM
I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.

JasmineInglewood's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:37 PM



As a Pastafarian* (edit, oops sorry about that) i am equally adamant that the Pastafarian version of events be reinforced to your children in school as well drinker
So, catwoman, we agree in our stance on religious belief in school drinker


God is real....he made me. he made me and i should give him more devotion than i do


the FSM made me and i really should be wearing my pirate suit more often too ohwell

Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:40 PM

I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.


Cat,

When I went to college and studied science, I truly realized then that there was a God. Yes, our bodies are too complex and nothing is an accident.

catwoman96's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:42 PM


I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.


Cat,

When I went to college and studied science, I truly realized then that there was a God. Yes, our bodies are too complex and nothing is an accident.


i knew there was a reason I liked ya winx, lolflowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:43 PM




As a Pastafarian* (edit, oops sorry about that) i am equally adamant that the Pastafarian version of events be reinforced to your children in school as well drinker
So, catwoman, we agree in our stance on religious belief in school drinker


God is real....he made me. he made me and i should give him more devotion than i do


the FSM made me and i really should be wearing my pirate suit more often too ohwell


I didn't know what FSM was so I did a search. I found this:

http://www.venganza.org/

I've never heard of Pastafarian before.

Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:46 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 12/01/08 08:04 PM





Psh... science is the tool of the devil


I like it.happy I took a lot of it in college.




because you are obviously a disciple of the devil :tongue: bigsmile


Don't tell my Pastor.:wink:

My child goes to a Christian school too.


laugh
don't worry you're secret is safe with me :wink:


The school doesn't teach scientific theories as of yet. They skipped the chapter about Neanderthals.

I teach the theories to my child. I explained the Neanderthals. I want my child to learn about everything.



JasmineInglewood's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:46 PM





As a Pastafarian* (edit, oops sorry about that) i am equally adamant that the Pastafarian version of events be reinforced to your children in school as well drinker
So, catwoman, we agree in our stance on religious belief in school drinker


God is real....he made me. he made me and i should give him more devotion than i do


the FSM made me and i really should be wearing my pirate suit more often too ohwell


I didn't know what FSM was so I did a search. I found this:

http://www.venganza.org/

I've never heard of Pastafarian before.


bigsmile
that site is our church laugh

Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:46 PM



I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.


Cat,

When I went to college and studied science, I truly realized then that there was a God. Yes, our bodies are too complex and nothing is an accident.


i knew there was a reason I liked ya winx, lolflowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


Awww...3 flowers.happy flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

JasmineInglewood's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:50 PM
Edited by JasmineInglewood on Mon 12/01/08 07:51 PM
So does that mean you don't like me Cat? frown
It's ok i like you anyhoo ohwell bigsmile

Seamonster's photo
Mon 12/01/08 07:58 PM

biggrin My twelve year old just got home from school. I asked her how we we were made. she said our mommys and daddys. i said no silly how did the human race get started? she said adam and eve.
I then asked her who put adam and eve here? and she said God.

I told her never to forget that. This SHOULD be reinforced in schools. BUT since its not, I can reinforce it in my home.biggrin


right, and you can reinforce that the world is flat and that the best way to get though life is to not think and just live by fear.

She sould be fine, the world needs more ditch diggers anyway.

Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:03 PM






As a Pastafarian* (edit, oops sorry about that) i am equally adamant that the Pastafarian version of events be reinforced to your children in school as well drinker
So, catwoman, we agree in our stance on religious belief in school drinker


God is real....he made me. he made me and i should give him more devotion than i do


the FSM made me and i really should be wearing my pirate suit more often too ohwell


I didn't know what FSM was so I did a search. I found this:

http://www.venganza.org/

I've never heard of Pastafarian before.


bigsmile
that site is our church laugh


How can they call it a church when it's a spoof? I see what they are doing. They are trying to get people to think outside of the box.

Seamonster's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:10 PM
There may or may not be a god.

To say that there deffinitly is or is not is being inelectualy dishonest.

But I don't personaly see much reason to think that there is.

Evolution does not disprove god, and to think that it does or for a creationist to be so sfraid of it is bizare.
Evolution is not realy even debated in the scientific community.
How it works is but not evolution itself.
I find it odd that someone would just tell their child that there is only one way to see the world.
But it's how we get ignorant people and i guess we need all kinds.
I am a rabid agnostic, but I tell my kid about both god and the science side and even have takein him to church. I want him to know all sides of an issue and then he can dicide for himself.
I guess some people do not trust their children to be smart enough to do that. And maybe some are not smart enough to that, and if thats the case then good job.

Seamonster's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:14 PM
Edited by Seamonster on Mon 12/01/08 08:16 PM

I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.


Realy? and you thought evolution said we evolved from monkeys?

Where did you get your degree from bazooka joe college?

no photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:30 PM
I can see that the views of the majority here are very distorted. No reality for you. *sigh*


No, evolution is not just the changes in one individual. However, if that individual survives and reproduces, it then affects the evolution of the population. I don't see how you're missing this; evolution is constantly happening. It's just easier to see over longer periods of time.


Y'all just wait 'til we get our pirate ship. You'll see who's calling who a spoof then drinker


What made me? Well, biology. My dad's sperm met me mom's egg and formed a zygote, the rest is history :tongue: How else do you explain pregnancy, really?


Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:37 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 12/01/08 08:38 PM





We are continuing to evolve. You just aren't going to see a difference in only a matter of a few thousand years and you definitely aren't going to see a difference in the time photos have been around. Homo sapiens have only been around about 200,000 years. It takes MILLIONS of years to make a noticeable difference.

There were other hominids before us as well; ie. homo habilis, erectus, and georgicus. Their species died out as many others do.

Also, you do know that genetic "defects" are pretty good proof that evolution is real? If those webbed feet were somehow beneficial to that person, lets say ice caps melt and we get a Waterworld scenario, and their children had webbing as well a few million years from now we could have hominids with fins.


THANK YOU!

Please, give this a read:
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/evolution.html

I know I'm probably trying in vain here, y'all seem rather hopeless drinks

Contrary to the beliefs of certain people, humans did not evolve from chimps or gorillas or any other modern primate. We share common ancestors, that's all.

Evolution is taking place as we speak. Your children are different from you. And you're different from your parents. Right? Unless you want to argue about the reality of DNA...in that case frustrated frustrated

Take autism for example. Natural variation. Evolution? Yes, in the sense that it's a deviation form the "standard" human genetic makeup. Not, however, in the sense of it being necessarily "better" than the standard. Evolution doesn't have to be positive, it can just as easily be negative or neutral.

The appendix. Where do you think that came from? It's a vestigial organ that really has little use in the human body - yet in "lesser" species it serves a real purpose.

I once had a science teacher that theorized that humans would eventually lose their little toes and have much wider carpal tunnels, but I doubt this, as those traits really don't give anyone any benefit in the way of ultimate survival or reproduction. I have yet to hear of anyone dying from stubbing their toes or having carpal tunnel syndrome before they reached sexual maturity.

Evolution can take a long time, or it can take a short time. Look at dogs. The different breeds are proof positive of evolution.



The link is good. Thanks.

I like the chimp.:tongue:



no photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:43 PM


I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.


Cat,

When I went to college and studied science, I truly realized then that there was a God. Yes, our bodies are too complex and nothing is an accident.


So...you're saying that a human body is so much more complex than that of any other animal that it couldn't have possibly been the work of nature? Faulty reasoning. Name one thing that's too complex to be a result of nature/evolution/natural selection/what-have-you.

martymark's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:45 PM
All of this has given me a tremendous amount of insight into ignorance and apathy. After my long and tiring studies and research on the matter I have come to the conclusion that I don't know and I don't care!frustrated

Winx's photo
Mon 12/01/08 08:51 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 12/01/08 08:54 PM



I have a degree in science..I understand microbiology.

i can tell you...we didnt evolve from nothing. God had a hand in it..our bodies are too complex.

God made us and he made the ground we walk on. We abuse it...and I belive he has forgiven and expected that.


Cat,

When I went to college and studied science, I truly realized then that there was a God. Yes, our bodies are too complex and nothing is an accident.


So...you're saying that a human body is so much more complex than that of any other animal that it couldn't have possibly been the work of nature? Faulty reasoning. Name one thing that's too complex to be a result of nature/evolution/natural selection/what-have-you.


The human bodies and all animal bodies.

Hmm...example. The process of making urine is quite interesting. Also, all the cells and macrophages and red blood cells and those little pac man cells that help get rid of cellular wastes. All of the systems and how they work together is all quite amazing actually.







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