I honestly can't remember if I've ever drank cognac, gonna have to try some, recomendations?

So tell me....in the whole scheme of life....who cares when they came, or how they came......who cares....there here and their working in our lives isn't that all that matters.

Back later, all have a good day

I play combat flight simulation games online at times, I think I am going to let a 12 year old shoot me down.

No angels but many of the stories that the Sumerians wrote down on huge stone tablets are almost exactly duplicated in the bible. The Tree of Knowledge and the story of Noah. Also the depiction of Moses was identical to that of a Sumerian king.

I would be more worried about that than Angels if I was a Christian.

Just have curiousities that is all. I am interested to know.

I played flight simulation back when it first came out in the 80s. Boy was I wreck with it

Today my game is Fable 2 (Fantasy roleplay) and I rarely play it. I fascinate myself more with the graphics then actually playing the game

SUMERIAN ANGELS CARVED IN STONE

Sumerian society is the oldest society that has left us clear evidence of the use of a winged human motif. This evidence is in the form of stone carvings, either in the form of three-D statues or relief carvings that provide the illusion of three-dimensionality. Sumerian culture flourished around 3,000 BC between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in present-day Iraq . The religion of these people was complex, embracing a wide variety of spirits and gods, but of particular interest was their belief in 'messengers of the gods', angelic forces who ran errands between gods and humans.
The Sumerians also believed that each person had a 'ghost' of some sort (that we would now probably label as 'guardian angel') with this entity remaining a constant companion for a person throughout their life. Altars that appear to be dedicated to guardian angels have been found in the excavations of ancient Sumerian homes, along with stone engravings and temple wall paintings of human figures with wings. After the polytheistic Semitic tribes had conquered the Sumerians around 1900 BC their mythical cosmology borrowed the notion of angels from the vanquished Sumerians. These Semitic peoples developed the idea of a corpus of angels split into groupings answerable to each of the many Semitic gods, further subdividing these groups into vertical 'ranked' heirarchies, a notion which persisted into Zoroastrianism and monotheistic Judaism and beyond, as we shall see. Sumerian ideas probably set the scene for the development of Egyptian theology as well, although it is difficult to be clear about the detail of such cross-cultural influences.

http://www.feedback.nildram.co.uk/richardebbs/essays/angels.htm

The world that then was, before Genesis. We were born of woman, innocent of that age, Our continued archeological discoveries are what makes some of these things come into question.
I don't have a problem with ancient writings, I understand that there was an ancient world, one that we are not fully aware of. We find bits and pieces and try to put them all together is all.
If there was something like an Atlantis, I can believe it, it would be from the world that then was, the first Earth age. It will all line itself out in the end

deb

So tell me....in the whole scheme of life....who cares when they came, or how they came......who cares....there here and their working in our lives isn't that all that matters.

tribo

well if they were working in everyones life maybe - because they are working in yours dies not mean their working in mine or others, as you say this is "your" expierience, which you have evry right to beleive, but it is not mine. the only supernatural things i have had happen to me has nothing to do with god or the book or angels.

I must admit, the micro combat flight sim of wwII has me hooked at this point, it is tons of fun. just when i think I am doing pretty good, some kid shoots me full of holes,

excellent miles - thnx for that i will go read it later - but in the meantime did it mantion any warring or battle angels swords etc??

yeh, that i'm aware of - thnx K.

Usually in this country most drink Hennessy, Remy Martin. I prefer to buy my directly from France from small vintages. I use to visit some of them and really educate myself on wines and cognacs.

But to answer your question there are so many available.

Château de Beaulon 1976 is what I drink. It goes for a 112 euro dollars. Not sure what that is in us dollars right now. I drink one or two shots in the evening occassionally.

If you like I give you a website

gotta go, interesting topic tribo, i'll have to read that link smiless shared. Just have so much on my plate today, try to have something more to share when I get back

That would require more research and I am not cheap! just joking

I am sure as long as humans existed conflicts in reality and in imagination will always happen. It happened then and it will happen in the future.

yeah, that would be nice. Want to try some. I like a shot or two some evening myself, usually whisky, but i'm reall picky about what kind. They don't sell my fav in Louisiana but it is all over Maryland, gonna be a good point there,

Well you asked for it! There are many to choose from. http://www.cognatheque.com/boutique/boutique.php?langue=2

Oh and look! Smiless just found that the Sumerians had angelic deities. There is another one.

Clearly there were some copyright infringement issues between Moses and the Sumerians.

I bet those female angels looked good to. I wouldn't mind dating one

Smiles check this out. I will try to break it up into paragraphs.

Enki and Ninhursag’ is perhaps one of the most difficult Mesopotamian myth for Judeo-Christian Westerners to understand, because it stands as the opposite of the myth of Adam and Eve in Paradise found in the Old Testament Bible.

Indeed, ‘ the literature created by the Sumerians left its deep imprint on the Hebrews, and one of the thrilling aspects of reconstructing and translating Sumerian belles-lettres consists in tracing resemblances and parallels between Sumerian and Biblical motifs. To be sure, Sumerians could not have influenced the Hebrews directly, for they had ceased to exist long before the Hebrew people came into existence. But there is little doubt that the Sumerians deeply influenced the Canaanites, who preceded the Hebrews in the land later known as Palestine’

Some comparisons with the Bible paradise story:

1) the idea of a divine paradise, the garden of gods, is of Sumerian origin, and it was Dilmun, the land of immortals situated in southwestern Persia. It is the same Dilmun that, later, the Babylonians, the Semitic people who conquered the Sumerians, located their home of the immortals. There is a good indication that the Biblical paradise, which is described as a garden planted eastward in Eden, from whose waters flow the four world rivers including the Tigris and the Euphrates, may have been originally identical with Dilmun;

2) the watering of Dilmun by Enki and the Sun god Utu with fresh water brought up from the earth is suggestive of the Biblical ‘ But there went up a mist from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground’ (Genesis 2:6);

3) the birth of goddesses without pain or travail illuminates the background of the curse against Eve that it shall be her lot to conceive and bear children in sorrow;

4) Enki’s greed to eat the eight sacred plants which gave birth to the Vegetal World resonates the eating of the Forbidden Fruit by Adam and Eve, and


5) most remarkably, this myth provides an explanation for one of the most puzzling motifs in the Biblical paradise story - the famous passage describing the fashioning of Eve, the mother of all living, from the rib of Adam. Why a rib instead of another organ to fashion the woman whose name Eve means according to the Bible, ‘she who makes live’? If we look at the Sumerian myth, we see that when Enki gets ill, cursed by Ninhursag, one of his body parts that start dying is the rib. The Sumerian word for rib is ‘ti’ . To heal each of Enki’s dying body parts, Ninhursag gives birth to eight goddesses. The goddess created for the healing of Enki’s rib is called ‘Nin-ti’, ‘the lady of the rib’. But the Sumerian word ‘ti’ also means ‘to make live’. The name ‘Nin-ti’ may therefore mean ‘the lady who makes live’ as well as ‘the lady of the rib’. Thus, a very ancient literary pun was carried over and perpetuated in the Bible, but without its original meaning, because the Hebrew word for ‘rib’ and that for ‘who makes live’ have nothing in common. Moreover, it is Ninhursag who gives her life essence to heal Enki, who is then reborn from her