If God commanded that we do mean and nasty things, what would be the right thing to do?

I would stop listening

This is gonna be interesting.

He doesn't...

take my schizophrenia meds and hope they kick in fast so I quit imagining things.

Old testimate god on the other hand...

anything that wasn't >>left!!<<

OOOHH!! wait a minute i'll be more bill clintonish about it:

define "if"?

define "god"?

define "commanded"?

define "that"?

define "we"?

define "do"?

define "mean"?

Define"and"?

Define "nasty"?

define "things"?

ans so on??


NO!!




hmmm???

how bout this - would people do mean and nasty things if there were no gods to command anything? yes/no?

I wouldn't (don't) have a problem with it.You are either loyal to "G-D" or you are not.What humans consider to be good and evil are not neccessarily what "G-D" considers to be good and evil.I realize this and I don't have a problem with it.

Story of Abraham and Isaac.
God commanded Abraham to murder his son and offer him as a sacrifice as a means of demonstrating his unquestioning obedience.
Abraham, being God's faithful servant set up the sacrifice as planned, until the last second, God being pleased with what Abraham was willing to do, stopped him.

Moral of story: God tells you to murder someone, you better be willing to do it.

Good luck with that. Any path I would choose, that would never be an option.

Say it ain't so mammy, say it ain't so! Does God get the credit for everything, good and bad? Are we just some sort of game he came up with kinda like chess or something? Can a human being change their mind at the last second and decide not to kill, and instead just walk away? Does Darwinism allow for the stopping of the evolutionary process? Do apples actually fall from the tre or are they expelled? If you don't shower or bathe for several weeks, will you stink, or does everyone who puts deoderant on stink? Do you want to take a chance on spending eternity in hell if the judgement day spoken of in the Bible is true? Do children have the right to grow up in a world free of war,,,guess not,,,we gotta start teaching them to fight and hate early or they may not want to when they get older. Does anything matter anymore? Is debating things over the net a waste of time, or is there anyone out there whose life has been changed for the better because of these threads?

Abraham ALSO REMEMBERED what God told him ....
that from His seed would come forth a multitude of people.

ALSO, as Abraham walked with his son( to be Obedient to what God asked Him to do)....Abraham looked back at the rest of the group who came along....and said," WE will be back".
(He said WE, not HE).

(Oh....btw,God was only testing Abraham's obedience !!
God also stopped Abraham, remember?)

This type of misunderstanding of scriptures , is just only one example of why it is important to read ALL of the scriptures... and not just part.

(This SAME misunderstanding of Scripture ,also applies to some thinking God kills...
ya have to rightly divide the Word....not just read bits and pieces of God's Word.)

You see, Abraham, TRUSTED THAT GOD SOMEHOW WOUlD PROVIDE THE LAMB...AND GOD DID.
Again, that is why Abraham said WE will be back...meaning he AND his son BOTH .


God also KNEW He could trust Abra to be obedient, and God all along KNEW He was not going to allow Abraham to harm his son.

But ya gotta read all of the scriptures to get ALL there is to God's Word, not just parts.

Nite everyone...

Hope all had a Blessed Thanksgiving...

I'll close with this now ... ..saw it earlier today ........tooo cute not to share.

Indeed,that is cute Morningsong.

This topic reminded me of the story of Job(one of my favorites in the bible).It would take a long time to explain the story but here is a short version.

Job was a very,very,wealthy man.The bible says he was on of the richest man in all of the middle east.He was also very,very,obedient and followed Gods laws the way he was supposed to do.In short he was a very holy man.Satan spoke to God one day and said something along the line of..."if you took away Jobs riches and treasures he would rebel against you and detest you".God allowed Satan to test Job and Satan killed the thousands of sheep,camel,and other animals he owned.Then he killed the majority of Job's family.

Job did not rebel against the lord.He went to a town meeting cut off all his hair,and took off all of his clothes and said this....

Job 1:21, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart.The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised."


The lord was very pleased with Job and blessed him with more animals then he had in the beginning with 14,000 sheep,6000 camels,and a thousand oxen.He also brought back his family members from the dead.Job lived 140 years.

He was testing Abraham. He passed the test. We all go through test. We choose the outcome by the choices we make.

MorningSong touched on this point, but I want to make sure it's clear.

Abraham thought that Issac would be resurrected after he was killed. Abraham thought that because of God's promise to him. So Abraham was willing to kill his son if God commanded because he believed that Issac would be brought back to life.

Not only was God testing Abraham's obedience, but he was also testing his trust in God. Did Abraham trust God to keep his promise? Abraham was tested and was not found wanting.

Exactly

amazing how anyone can determine what someone was thinking that long ago? Had abrham seen anyone ressurected in his day? what then would give him hope for this? did he tell someone afterwords this was his thoughts? who??

Is it hard to imagine that someone who believes that God created the whole universe and all life would also believe that God could give life to the dead?