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Topic: George Bushes true legacy
quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/29/08 09:57 AM
it amazes me to hear the half truths, lies, and distortions I hear both for and against the man the propagandists have done their jobs well

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 11/29/08 04:49 PM
Yes well history will be kind to BUSH for his efforts to make the world a safer place to live for all people. History will also show the LIBS for the bummer they are when those same people become oppressed because LIBS didn't really want them to be free...LIBS just want to control everything...secular humanistly speaking that is...ehem. History will say how they "Vietnamed" the war on terror. hmmm...big happenings in India where terrorists are attacking ... emboldened by LIB govts. who have no backbone. So much for the commies who call themselves "independants." That's another joke. Minnesota...the laughing stock of the country. they go for star power not brains in that state. How's that twiddledumm Al Franken...trying to steal an election. He's about as popular as his dumb azz "free" radio show was. Talk about an arrogant idiot??? Well we will have alot of fun watching the LIB commies make fools of themesleves in the next two years. Won't we now? And i thought Archie Bunker was a made up character.Hate isn't pretty. There goes that most misused word again...hate. I think someone needs a dictionary, unless of course, they are using it to explain the lib rationale.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 11/29/08 04:51 PM
it amazes me to hear the half truths, lies, and distortions I hear both for and against the man the propagandists have done their jobs well ...and your contribution was ??????

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/29/08 04:52 PM
whatever I want it to be it's not your prerogative to judge the worth of my post

DHinkle Joined Sat 11/15/08 Posts: 2196	Sat 11/29/08 05:03 PM
i jus read most of this thread an people will never agree on war. But america did wat had to b done. The 9/11 attack was just the beginning. Would you rather fight a war here than there. And the reason we attacked iraq was because of "weapons of mass distruction" an u say they found none. correct but if the media hadnt told the whole world a month before we did it they wouldnt have had time to get rid of them

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/29/08 05:08 PM
WMD's was one of five or six reasons that Bush gave for taking down Saddam it was never the main reason. That is just something the opposition has jumped on to discredit him The biggest reason was that Iraq violated every term of their surrender

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 11/29/08 05:09 PM
Oh so it wasn't your opinion of others who posted here that I was responding to then? That "WAS" my point. Why don't people just post their views than waste thread bashing people who do? It's so condescending.... ...but I suppose that a whole other post.

DHinkle Joined Sat 11/15/08 Posts: 2196	Sat 11/29/08 05:10 PM
WMD's was one of five or six reasons that Bush gave for taking down Saddam it was never the main reason. That is just something the opposition has jumped on to discredit him The biggest reason was that Iraq violated every term of their surrender yes but when we got there and found nothing thats what the media jumped on an thats wat most people think of wen they think iraq

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 11/29/08 05:11 PM
i jus read most of this thread an people will never agree on war. But america did wat had to b done. The 9/11 attack was just the beginning. Would you rather fight a war here than there. And the reason we attacked iraq was because of "weapons of mass distruction" an u say they found none. correct but if the media hadnt told the whole world a month before we did it they wouldnt have had time to get rid of them They will find out real soon how wrong they were. Don't ever expect an apology either...they will never admit what a bunch of screw ups they really are.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/29/08 05:14 PM
WMD's was one of five or six reasons that Bush gave for taking down Saddam it was never the main reason. That is just something the opposition has jumped on to discredit him The biggest reason was that Iraq violated every term of their surrender yes but when we got there and found nothing thats what the media jumped on an thats wat most people think of wen they think iraq as I said. the propagandists have done their job well according to Stratfor there is evidence that several truckloads of something were buried in the Bakka valley days before the American invasion of Iraq. and a couople of ex-Iraqi military types who say they were in charge of hiding chemical weapons there

DHinkle Joined Sat 11/15/08 Posts: 2196	Sat 11/29/08 05:14 PM
i jus read most of this thread an people will never agree on war. But america did wat had to b done. The 9/11 attack was just the beginning. Would you rather fight a war here than there. And the reason we attacked iraq was because of "weapons of mass distruction" an u say they found none. correct but if the media hadnt told the whole world a month before we did it they wouldnt have had time to get rid of them They will find out real soon how wrong they were. Don't ever expect an apology either...they will never admit what a bunch of screw ups they really are. r u talking about the media of the busch admin.?

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/29/08 05:16 PM
Oh so it wasn't your opinion of others who posted here that I was responding to then? That "WAS" my point. Why don't people just post their views than waste thread bashing people who do? It's so condescending.... ...but I suppose that a whole other post. ummm yeah maybe so cause you are definitly one of the ones I was referring to when I said I'm amazed at the half-truths and distortions that people believe

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 11/29/08 05:21 PM Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 11/29/08 05:22 PM
i jus read most of this thread an people will never agree on war. But america did wat had to b done. The 9/11 attack was just the beginning. Would you rather fight a war here than there. And the reason we attacked iraq was because of "weapons of mass distruction" an u say they found none. correct but if the media hadnt told the whole world a month before we did it they wouldnt have had time to get rid of them They will find out real soon how wrong they were. Don't ever expect an apology either...they will never admit what a bunch of screw ups they really are. r u talking about the media of the busch admin.? Well I mean even the public... some here want to put the blame on BUSH alone for any errors but he didn't do it alone. All these people who say we shouldn't have gone into IRAQ & where are the WMD's...they will find out when the libs VIETNAMIZE the war on terror. Terrorists are already on the attack. We will feel it here too. It only emboldens the enemy to have cowards running things. What I am saying is LIBS better not drop the ball with their loonie leanings. Too much is at stake.

Thomas3474 Joined Mon 11/10/08 Posts: 2713	Sun 11/30/08 12:45 AM
I don't see why Bush is to blame for everything in this war.Don't you realize that everything that Bush does needs the approval of both the Senate and the House before action is taken.Nothing can be done unless it is approved anonymously by the House and the Senate which is the people you voted for in the first place.So if you are going to blame Bush you must also blame the Senate,the House,Nato,and others associated with this war.Even if Bush veto's a bill his veto can still be overrun by a 2/3 majority in the Souse.So who is really in control here?The House and Senate. The weapons of mass destruction is a no brainer.First he had them because he used them numerous times.The real lead up to the war came when Sadaam refused to let any more weapons inspectors inside his buildings.Even after that many months went by with warning after warning if he didn't let weapons inspectors in a invasion was going to be a reality. If you sold drugs and the police said in 2 weeks we are going to search your apartment for drugs do you really think you would have them lying around???Of course he buried them.He may be stupid but he is not that stupid.Not only that former military members gave testimony that they buried them deep in the desert.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Sun 11/30/08 01:13 AM
Bush's great legacy needs bumped. When Reagan left office, he was called one of the worst presidents in American history by Historians. He's now considered one of the best. George Bush won't get a fair shake from anyone who is a mindless partisan. It will be awhile before Americans can look at the Bush years as they truly were. But while it might take a generation before Bush gets his due in America, free Afganis and Iraqis are already singing his praises. Those who appreciate the sacrifices that America made so that they could have freedom and their daughters could walk down the street without a Burka or an escort or their daughters can go to school, those people are already thanking Bush for what he has done. You can't even begin to compare Afghanistan to Iraq. One was a response to an attack by actual terrorists. The other was waged under a cover of lies and misinformation. Every intelligence agency in the world thought Iraq had WMDs or was close to having them. That is common knowledge. Bush had bad intelligence. Sorry! It happens. Especially when Saddam WANTED the world to think he had WMDs. Democrats were all over the airwaves form when Bush announced the invasion until four months post invasion talking about how Iraq had WMDs, it was just a matter of finding them. Then suddenly, when it looked like we weren't going to find any, the Democrats start whining about the war. You might have a selective memory, but I don't. So you are either not informed enough to discuss the issue or you are a liar. Because this information is easily and widely available. You are on the internet to post your silly little response, hit google and actually learn something instead of just towing the party line. Its funny people seem to forget we support Saddam for many years. Gave him $$$$$ and technology because he was fighting Iran...HMMMM And this is where the problem is. We start wars both voluntary and involuntary. We started the Taliban in Afganistan, We helped put Saddam in power, the list goes on and on. I don't think anyone blamed iraq on 9/11. That's not the reason we attacked. The "purpose" was the fact they broke a U.N. treaty. Under "U.N. sactions" we invaded. We never declared war. In fact we haven't officially declared war since World War II. Funny thing is that historically they would elect the Republican to end the wars the democrats started. Unfortunately there is a big melting pot now that severely blurs the lines between the two parties. Bush promised to end Clinton's wars, so we elected him. Turns out he is just as bad. Ignore party lines. Listen to those that told us the story of this "financial crisis" YEARS ago. Listen to the congressmen that come out and admit that the government has funded almost everyone we went to war with. Listen to them when they expose criminal acts.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sun 11/30/08 05:21 AM
I wonder how many of these girls are getting a "fair and equal" education now from their teachers and i wonder how many of those teachers are female. What subjects are they being taught? Just because they are in school does not mean they are getting the same education and treatment as the boys. They are raising up a generation of leaders... that's a GOOD thing...unless we see DEMS "VIETNAMIZE" the war on terror that is.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sun 11/30/08 05:55 AM Edited by Unknow on Sun 11/30/08 05:57 AM
Bush's great legacy needs bumped. When Reagan left office, he was called one of the worst presidents in American history by Historians. He's now considered one of the best. George Bush won't get a fair shake from anyone who is a mindless partisan. It will be awhile before Americans can look at the Bush years as they truly were. But while it might take a generation before Bush gets his due in America, free Afganis and Iraqis are already singing his praises. Those who appreciate the sacrifices that America made so that they could have freedom and their daughters could walk down the street without a Burka or an escort or their daughters can go to school, those people are already thanking Bush for what he has done. You can't even begin to compare Afghanistan to Iraq. One was a response to an attack by actual terrorists. The other was waged under a cover of lies and misinformation. Every intelligence agency in the world thought Iraq had WMDs or was close to having them. That is common knowledge. Bush had bad intelligence. Sorry! It happens. Especially when Saddam WANTED the world to think he had WMDs. Democrats were all over the airwaves form when Bush announced the invasion until four months post invasion talking about how Iraq had WMDs, it was just a matter of finding them. Then suddenly, when it looked like we weren't going to find any, the Democrats start whining about the war. You might have a selective memory, but I don't. So you are either not informed enough to discuss the issue or you are a liar. Because this information is easily and widely available. You are on the internet to post your silly little response, hit google and actually learn something instead of just towing the party line. Its funny people seem to forget we support Saddam for many years. Gave him $$$$$ and technology because he was fighting Iran...HMMMM And this is where the problem is. We start wars both voluntary and involuntary. We started the Taliban in Afganistan, We helped put Saddam in power, the list goes on and on. I don't think anyone blamed iraq on 9/11. That's not the reason we attacked. The "purpose" was the fact they broke a U.N. treaty. Under "U.N. sactions" we invaded. We never declared war. In fact we haven't officially declared war since World War II. Funny thing is that historically they would elect the Republican to end the wars the democrats started. Unfortunately there is a big melting pot now that severely blurs the lines between the two parties. Bush promised to end Clinton's wars, so we elected him. Turns out he is just as bad. Ignore party lines. Listen to those that told us the story of this "financial crisis" YEARS ago. Listen to the congressmen that come out and admit that the government has funded almost everyone we went to war with. Listen to them when they expose criminal acts. Selective memory? I remember alot of things people seen to have forgot. I agree with Driven.. One more thing..We have never been lied to before? Think real hard on that one!!!!!

Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Sun 11/30/08 09:22 AM
WARNING: the link below contains a video that uses some adult language. If you are offended by four letter words don't watch it. Mr. Peabody & Sherman: History of Iraq. A history lesson starting back in 1953 to present http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0PYWAn-FzM A humorous look at just part of our middle east policy.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sun 11/30/08 02:47 PM Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 11/30/08 02:50 PM
No matter what the loonies say to justify their lunacy...HISTORY WILL BE KIND to GW Bush. When it all hits the fan we will know who the real heros are...won't we? With the DEMS in power dont'cha just love the way they sidestep any real solutions by blaming BUSH & the REPS. Ok...so now what DEMS? Bring on the solutions instead of playing the blame game. Come on... what do you propose?

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sun 11/30/08 02:53 PM
Is it January already. I seen to have lost a whole month..