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Topic: Okay, I need to know the secret
Lily0923's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:38 AM


Have no fear, Krimsa. I did not call anyone out by name. All I did was express my own opinion, as per your request. If somebody wants to celebrate their own holidays in their own ways, that's fine, I can accept and respect that. By the same token, I'd like the same respect in return. That's all I said.


Calling anyone out by name? Because I mentioned that Christmas was an adopted Pagan holiday? That is based in historical fact sir. There is no need to take offense.


((Krimsa))

don't upset anyone's world... Let them think what they want, we KNOW the truth.

Christmas Tree= Druid = Pagan
Yule Log = Celtic Pagans
Mistletoe = Celtic Pagans
Giving Gifts = Celtic Pagans

I won't go on... let them look it up and be amazed at what they find...

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:39 AM
But then it wont just end with Hanukkah and Kwanzaa, EVERYONE would then be entitled to have a display. The Pagan community woudnt push it because they keep a low profile anyway, but everyone else would demand a display for their particular religious bent. It would become unreasonable.

Lily0923's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:40 AM

But then it wont just end with Hanukkah and Kwanzaa, EVERYONE would then be entitled to have a display. The Pagan community woudnt push it because they keep a low profile anyway, but everyone else would demand a display for their particular religious bent. It would become unreasonable.


Let 'em it all belongs to us anyways...

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:40 AM



Have no fear, Krimsa. I did not call anyone out by name. All I did was express my own opinion, as per your request. If somebody wants to celebrate their own holidays in their own ways, that's fine, I can accept and respect that. By the same token, I'd like the same respect in return. That's all I said.


Calling anyone out by name? Because I mentioned that Christmas was an adopted Pagan holiday? That is based in historical fact sir. There is no need to take offense.


((Krimsa))

don't upset anyone's world... Let them think what they want, we KNOW the truth.

Christmas Tree= Druid = Pagan
Yule Log = Celtic Pagans
Mistletoe = Celtic Pagans
Giving Gifts = Celtic Pagans

I won't go on... let them look it up and be amazed at what they find...


I know. laugh :wink:

Fade2Black's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:40 AM


But then it wont just end with Hanukkah and Kwanzaa, EVERYONE would then be entitled to have a display. The Pagan community woudnt push it because they keep a low profile anyway, but everyone else would demand a display for their particular religious bent. It would become unreasonable.


Let 'em it all belongs to us anyways...



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Keith, I think you have the makings of a controversial thread brewing .. LOL

Mr_Music's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:41 AM
Edited by Mr_Music on Sat 11/22/08 10:43 AM
I see this.

I also know from prior experience that topics that start out like this usually end up being political.

Lily0923's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:44 AM



But then it wont just end with Hanukkah and Kwanzaa, EVERYONE would then be entitled to have a display. The Pagan community woudnt push it because they keep a low profile anyway, but everyone else would demand a display for their particular religious bent. It would become unreasonable.


Let 'em it all belongs to us anyways...



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Keith, I think you have the makings of a controversial thread brewing .. LOL


((Judy)) I won't argue about my religion... I know the truth, and that's all that matters.

and really I don't care how someone worships, it only matters that they do.

Pray to the Virgin Mary... that's the way that the Catholic church encorporated my Goddess into their religion in order to "get" members.

Use anointing oils that was ours too...incence...oops ours too.

I don't sweat it...

The Goddess believes in you even if you don't believe in her.

Happy Christmas
Merry Chanuaka
Festive Kuanza
and many many blessed Yule tide miracles.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:50 AM

I see this.

I also know from prior experience that topics that start out like this usually end up being political.



You dont say??

laugh laugh

Doi bigsmile smooched

no photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:51 AM


In that spirit I would like to take this time to say

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY




on that note, if you wanted to come sit on my lap, mrs. claus has something special for you devil


now THAT is my kinda magic

Mr_Music's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:53 AM
Oh, get a room! :laughing:

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:56 AM

The problem I think arises when they are out in front of civic organizations because the implication there is that Christianity is being favored. Why cant Jews not have a Star of David? Why cant we have a Kwanzaa fruit basket display? Then before you know it there will be so much crap out front of City Hall, no one will be able to make their way into the building.

Thats the issue.


I dunno....most holidays are separate from each other, regardless of religion. But even if some different religions DID have holidays that overlapped each other, I really (personally) wouldn't have any issues with overlapping themes (Star Of David as well as a Christmas tree, for example) on display, whether in front of a civic organization or otherwise.

But that's just me, and what the hell do I know?

The only things I might have a problem with are those which would be (for example) purely Satanic in nature, and so forth.



You dont have the right to make that call. If your nativity scene (assuming you are Christian) is out front of the Court House as an example, then you can not dictate which religiosity will have a display and representation beyond that point.

How would a Buddhist person who has to attend trial in that same court house feel being escorted in with cuffs and leg irons on when he sees that nativity scene gracing the front lawn of this civic building that is SUPPOSED to be blind of religion, race and creed?

Hmm? You tell me.


Mr_Music's photo
Sat 11/22/08 10:59 AM


The problem I think arises when they are out in front of civic organizations because the implication there is that Christianity is being favored. Why cant Jews not have a Star of David? Why cant we have a Kwanzaa fruit basket display? Then before you know it there will be so much crap out front of City Hall, no one will be able to make their way into the building.

Thats the issue.


I dunno....most holidays are separate from each other, regardless of religion. But even if some different religions DID have holidays that overlapped each other, I really (personally) wouldn't have any issues with overlapping themes (Star Of David as well as a Christmas tree, for example) on display, whether in front of a civic organization or otherwise.

But that's just me, and what the hell do I know?

The only things I might have a problem with are those which would be (for example) purely Satanic in nature, and so forth.



You dont have the right to make that call. If your nativity scene (assuming you are Christian) is out front of the Court House as an example, then you can not dictate which religiosity will have a display and representation beyond that point.

How would a Buddhist person who has to attend trial in that same court house feel being escorted in with cuffs and leg irons on when he sees that nativity scene gracing the front lawn of this civic building that is SUPPOSED to be blind of religion, race and creed?

Hmm? You tell me.




Be careful, you're treading dangerously close to putting words in my mouth again. I said I might have a problem with it. I never said anything about doing anything to prevent it. That IS their right, and you are correct, that isn't my place to make that call.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 11:00 AM
huh grumble

Mr_Music's photo
Sat 11/22/08 01:46 PM
SO!!....How 'bout them Packers! :banana:

HasidicEnforcer's photo
Sat 11/22/08 01:47 PM
dunno...

not really into football...

how about them dodgers?

Jess642's photo
Sat 11/22/08 01:48 PM
Be abrasive, and condemning, then have a mob of aussies , canadians, and various other crazy people crash your thread, and let them make fun of you, or play imaginary play with them.... or just talk complete random stuff that no one knows what the hell it is about....:wink: laugh

lighthouselover's photo
Sat 11/22/08 01:51 PM
Edited by lighthouselover on Sat 11/22/08 01:52 PM
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Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/22/08 01:56 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/22/08 02:10 PM

Be abrasive, and condemning, then have a mob of aussies , canadians, and various other crazy people crash your thread, and let them make fun of you, or play imaginary play with them.... or just talk complete random stuff that no one knows what the hell it is about....:wink: laugh


That about sums her up. laugh :wink: I was actually on my way to immigrate to Canada (Toronto, Ontario) to be exact. I was making plans if Obama didnt get in. No way was I doing another 4 years of that crap and certainly not 8. Canada is wonderful and it is significantly lacking in that " undereducated right wing crowd."

But Im not naming any names of course.

laugh :wink:

Mr_Music's photo
Sat 11/22/08 02:05 PM

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rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I KNEW that would get Deb's attention!

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 11/22/08 02:34 PM

Be abrasive, and condemning, then have a mob of aussies , canadians, and various other crazy people crash your thread, and let them make fun of you, or play imaginary play with them.... or just talk complete random stuff that no one knows what the hell it is about....:wink: laugh




Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ..... those were the days... bigsmile

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