Topic: PROP 8
classickiss's photo
Fri 11/07/08 08:35 AM


It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


yes

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 08:39 AM
Edited by Winx on Fri 11/07/08 08:40 AM


It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Yes, most are born that way. Science has shown evidence of it.

And when you think about it, they can't control which sex arouses them. Why do you think there is such a high suicide rate of gays in high school? Also, they get depressed because they want families.


Thomas27's photo
Fri 11/07/08 09:03 AM



It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Yes, most are born that way. Science has shown evidence of it.

And when you think about it, they can't control which sex arouses them. Why do you think there is such a high suicide rate of gays in high school? Also, they get depressed because they want families.




Perhaps.... I guess since I've always been attracted to women, it may be hard for me to see it the other way around.

With that being said, I have a cousin that is gay. I'm pretty sure that he never experimented with a female to see whether or not it was for him. I guess he has always felt attracted to men. It's unfortunate though, his first sexual experience with another man, has pretty much cost him his life. He now has AIDS, and no health insurance. (please don't take this the wrong way, I know gays are not the only ones that get AIDS)He has the full support of the family regardless.

One of my best friends in CA is gay. She, on the other hand, was once married and has a daughter. Her and her girlfriend are both very beautiful people and I believe my life is better from having them be a part of it. It was just kind of out of the blue, some years back that she decided she was gay. Maybe she was intimately disgusted with men, I'm not sure.

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 09:19 AM




It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Yes, most are born that way. Science has shown evidence of it.

And when you think about it, they can't control which sex arouses them. Why do you think there is such a high suicide rate of gays in high school? Also, they get depressed because they want families.




Perhaps.... I guess since I've always been attracted to women, it may be hard for me to see it the other way around.

With that being said, I have a cousin that is gay. I'm pretty sure that he never experimented with a female to see whether or not it was for him. I guess he has always felt attracted to men. It's unfortunate though, his first sexual experience with another man, has pretty much cost him his life. He now has AIDS, and no health insurance. (please don't take this the wrong way, I know gays are not the only ones that get AIDS)He has the full support of the family regardless.

One of my best friends in CA is gay. She, on the other hand, was once married and has a daughter. Her and her girlfriend are both very beautiful people and I believe my life is better from having them be a part of it. It was just kind of out of the blue, some years back that she decided she was gay. Maybe she was intimately disgusted with men, I'm not sure.


I'm sorry about your cousin.flowerforyou

You have always been attracted to women and it's hard to see it any other way. That's the way it is with them. They can't see it any other way.

I know two people that were married and later came out. One was my Uncle that married my Aunt. One of my bf's told me that my Uncle was gay before he came out.laugh The way it was explained to me was that they got married because society expected them to but they weren't happy and it didn't feel natural to them.

Why don't you ask your friend what happened? She might talk about it, you never know.

no photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:34 AM


It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:05 AM



It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:06 AM




It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:09 AM





It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:10 AM






It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:18 AM







It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:25 AM
Edited by Winx on Fri 11/07/08 11:30 AM








It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh


Good unbiased sources. So you need pictures to explain things to you and not words, do you?:tongue:

I was thinking more along the lines of brains scans, twin studies, etc.





no photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:27 AM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 11/07/08 11:28 AM








It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh
Wanting pictures..Makes you go Hmmmmmm wondering?

no photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:34 AM




It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


I'd say it's more than a possibility.

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:43 AM









It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh


Good unbiased sources. So you need pictures to explain things to you and not words, do you?:tongue:

I was thinking more along the lines of brains scans, twin studies, etc.







I was kidding...lol

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:44 AM
:wink:









It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh
Wanting pictures..Makes you go Hmmmmmm wondering?


well it was getting HOT in their...gulp !!...lol...not that theirs anything wrong with that...

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:45 AM





It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


I'd say it's more than a possibility.


well then....say it !!...I can't take the suspense any longer...lol

no photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:49 AM

:wink:









It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh
Wanting pictures..Makes you go Hmmmmmm wondering?


well it was getting HOT in their...gulp !!...lol...not that theirs anything wrong with that...
Seinfeid!!!

Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 11:58 AM


:wink:









It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.


I'm not sure I agree with that....

Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?


Absolutely.


well what do ya' know...we may actually agree on something...to a certain degree...I've always remembered when I was in grammar school...and there would be a boy or two in my class...that seemed a bit feminine...a bit different...I now find myself asking..." I wonder if that boy was gay...or...is gay "...I still remember most of their names, and the only way to truly find out...would be to see what's going on in their world today...so...without knowing how they live their lives at the present...I can only say..." there may be a possibility...that you are born this way "...


Possibility? Check out the scientific studies!!


okay...I'll be right back !!...indifferent


laugh

Make sure that they're unbiased now.:wink:


okay...I found two studies...I threw the first one out because of its title...it was called " Ben Dover "...it was written by Harry Pairoftestes

the second sudy...was disqualified...no pictures !!...LOL...laugh
Wanting pictures..Makes you go Hmmmmmm wondering?


well it was getting HOT in their...gulp !!...lol...not that theirs anything wrong with that...
Seinfeid!!!


yes...nicely done...although I must admit...I wasn't a big fan...

classickiss's photo
Mon 11/10/08 08:00 AM
umm how did this convo move to seinfield?

no photo
Mon 11/10/08 08:04 AM

umm how did this convo move to seinfield?


happens all the time

you did know that Seinfeld is gay?