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Topic: PROP 8
singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 11/06/08 12:34 PM
Proposition 8 just proved my point. Marriage is not a union of souls as some would have us believe. Marriage is a union of male genitalia and female genitalia. As long as you have those parts you're ok to get married. This saddens me as it seems to remove the entire idea of love. Love is a feeling not a gender, it cares not whether you are gay, straight or bi. How one feels about a person should decide whether they will be wed or not. I guess they just care more about what's "normal" in their eyes.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 11/06/08 12:35 PM
What's more sad are those who don't think their actions affect others. That couldn't be more WRONG! Yes, that's true. The actions of the people who voted yes on Prop 8 are preventing people who could truly be in love from being able to marry one another.

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Thu 11/06/08 01:17 PM
Proposition 8 just proved my point. Marriage is not a union of souls as some would have us believe. Marriage is a union of male genitalia and female genitalia. As long as you have those parts you're ok to get married. This saddens me as it seems to remove the entire idea of love. Love is a feeling not a gender, it cares not whether you are gay, straight or bi. How one feels about a person should decide whether they will be wed or not. I guess they just care more about what's "normal" in their eyes. ummmm....now that you mention it...yes !!!...normal sounds good...I'll take a double order of normal...nooo !...make that a triple...LOL...

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Thu 11/06/08 01:20 PM
meanwhile you're ignoring the fact that it was overturned not by "radicals" but by the CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT, and it was because they rightly judged it be UNCONSTIUTIONAL to endorse discrimination. Don't you mean by radical left wing clinton picked partisan judges that want to legislate from the bench instead of supporting the law?

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Thu 11/06/08 01:21 PM
I am going to get hell for this....but what else is new. I believe that every human being has the right to love who they want. I also believe that each individual has a right to medical and all other benefits of married couples. Do it in the court house......or wherever... But in a church no way jose. It is a sin whether people want to close their eyes to it or not. God says and therefore that is it. If man was intended to be with man and woman with woman then by golly that is how it would of been. In the eyes of the Lord or in a church same sex marriage.....NEVER I voted YES And I believe it with every fiber of my being....And I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends...I love the sinner not the sin...And they all know exactly where I stand on this. this is y we r seperated by church and state for a reason! Do people not read........you will never separate church and state...God has his hands everywhere love...and nothing is done without his complete knowledge and he knows exactly what is going to happen with it all. Right you are dear & everything that can be shaken will be shaken & the counter culture will not have THAT choice.

AlpineRocks Joined Mon 09/18/06 Posts: 6220	Thu 11/06/08 01:23 PM
Yes on 8!!!! I dont want to live in the next Sodom and Gamora, Remember the san andreas fault runs right through my back yard.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Thu 11/06/08 01:23 PM
And how did this non-issue get to the supreme court? Because they obviously didnt think passing discriminatory laws against constitutionally protected freedoms a non-issue. So much for getting govt. out of our lives...just use the BUZZ word, discrimination, all common sense goes right out the window, huh? LOL More LIB hypocrisy.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Thu 11/06/08 01:25 PM Edited by Quikstepper on Thu 11/06/08 01:28 PM
I think the "no" would have won if they didn't try to puch it on kids that it was ok. Oh I love this... you have been quite mis-informed sir. * PROP. 8 DOESN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCHOOLS There’s NOT ONE WORD IN 8 ABOUT EDUCATION. In fact, local school districts and parents—not the state—develop health education programs for their schools. NO CHILD CAN BE FORCED, AGAINST THE WILL OF THEIR PARENTS, TO BE TAUGHT ANYTHING about health and family issues. CALIFORNIA LAW PROHIBITS IT. And NOTHING IN STATE LAW REQUIRES THE MENTION OF MARRIAGE IN KINDERGARTEN! http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/argu-rebut/argu-rebutt8.htm edit: ummm and it is ok, and it doesnt harm children to be educated about homosexuality when its age appropriate for them to have sex ed. Education and information are the enemies of ignorance and fear. Which is why those against it wouldnt want their kids to learn anything but their own brand of intolerant brainwashing. sigh some people will never be open minded enough to realize any of this. (sigh) It's NEVER appropriate to be desensitized to abhorant behaviors. Wake up o sleepers.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Thu 11/06/08 01:32 PM
(sigh) It's NEVER appropriate to be desensitized to abhorant behaviors. Wake up o sleepers. Wow.

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 11/06/08 01:42 PM
~PROP 8~ Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry in th State of California -Summary Prepared by the State Attorney General: Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California. Provides that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. -Meaning of Voting Yes/No A YES vote on this measure means: The California Constitution will specify that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. ( http://www.protectmarriage.com/about ) A NO vote on this measure means: A NO vote on this measure means: Marriage between individuals of the same sex would continue to be valid or recognized in California. ( http://www.eqca.org/site/pp.asp?c=kuLRJ9MRKrH&b=4375153 ) Here are some comercials they broadcast for both sides: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=prop+8&search_type=&aq=f As for my opinion I'm a strong NO ON PROP 8! I feel the way that religion is trying to put there words in with law is wrong. Religion can have an opinion but we are separated by church and state for a reason. Just as Latinos/Asians/African Americans are considered the "minority" but if you look at this country what people call "minorities" are the ones who practically own this country!! Now they put gays and lesbians in the same group? To discriminate against people who are different? When all they want is the same right as straight people do. I'm so disapointed in California I really thought that we as one of the states with the most races would understand the nature that this bill has done to people whos only wish is to be treated equal. *Picture this: A woman dying in the hospital and the nurse won’t let her partner see her because she’s not a spouse or relative. And her family disowned her because she lives that lifestyle. That woman now dies with no loved ones around. Is that fair? What was your reaction or opinion to the results? (please remember this is just a opinion... dont try and attack anyones post) Marriage has always been considered as being between a Man and a Woman. One of the things that's pissing everyone off is that Gay's and running around, acting like they don't have any fccking sense ! They were raised by parents, that took them to visits friends and family and they were able to see how the world worked. If they decided that this would'nt work for them...okay...fine. But to try and duplicate traditional marriage...with the Civil Union Agreements, and when bored with that...try and go for a legitimate marriage...in which everyone would have to accept, is simply an abomanation to God and Christians everywhere. Gay's should have know that people would toll the line on this. At this point...the gay's that wanted to get marriaged I hope have done so...and the one's that did'nt....Shut Up !

classickiss Joined Tue 11/04/08 Posts: 72	Thu 11/06/08 01:54 PM
~PROP 8~ Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry in th State of California -Summary Prepared by the State Attorney General: Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California. Provides that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. -Meaning of Voting Yes/No A YES vote on this measure means: The California Constitution will specify that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. ( http://www.protectmarriage.com/about ) A NO vote on this measure means: A NO vote on this measure means: Marriage between individuals of the same sex would continue to be valid or recognized in California. ( http://www.eqca.org/site/pp.asp?c=kuLRJ9MRKrH&b=4375153 ) Here are some comercials they broadcast for both sides: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=prop+8&search_type=&aq=f As for my opinion I'm a strong NO ON PROP 8! I feel the way that religion is trying to put there words in with law is wrong. Religion can have an opinion but we are separated by church and state for a reason. Just as Latinos/Asians/African Americans are considered the "minority" but if you look at this country what people call "minorities" are the ones who practically own this country!! Now they put gays and lesbians in the same group? To discriminate against people who are different? When all they want is the same right as straight people do. I'm so disapointed in California I really thought that we as one of the states with the most races would understand the nature that this bill has done to people whos only wish is to be treated equal. *Picture this: A woman dying in the hospital and the nurse won’t let her partner see her because she’s not a spouse or relative. And her family disowned her because she lives that lifestyle. That woman now dies with no loved ones around. Is that fair? What was your reaction or opinion to the results? (please remember this is just a opinion... dont try and attack anyones post) Marriage has always been considered as being between a Man and a Woman. One of the things that's pissing everyone off is that Gay's and running around, acting like they don't have any fccking sense ! They were raised by parents, that took them to visits friends and family and they were able to see how the world worked. If they decided that this would'nt work for them...okay...fine. But to try and duplicate traditional marriage...with the Civil Union Agreements, and when bored with that...try and go for a legitimate marriage...in which everyone would have to accept, is simply an abomanation to God and Christians everywhere. Gay's should have know that people would toll the line on this. At this point...the gay's that wanted to get marriaged I hope have done so...and the one's that did'nt....Shut Up ! need i remind u and everyone this is suppose to be a healthy discussion... and to respect those thoughts and opinions of everyone else

AlpineRocks Joined Mon 09/18/06 Posts: 6220	Thu 11/06/08 01:56 PM
I P***y

SportsNut2007 Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 817	Thu 11/06/08 02:00 PM
~PROP 8~ Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry in th State of California -Summary Prepared by the State Attorney General: Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California. Provides that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. -Meaning of Voting Yes/No A YES vote on this measure means: The California Constitution will specify that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. ( http://www.protectmarriage.com/about ) A NO vote on this measure means: A NO vote on this measure means: Marriage between individuals of the same sex would continue to be valid or recognized in California. ( http://www.eqca.org/site/pp.asp?c=kuLRJ9MRKrH&b=4375153 ) Here are some comercials they broadcast for both sides: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=prop+8&search_type=&aq=f As for my opinion I'm a strong NO ON PROP 8! I feel the way that religion is trying to put there words in with law is wrong. Religion can have an opinion but we are separated by church and state for a reason. Just as Latinos/Asians/African Americans are considered the "minority" but if you look at this country what people call "minorities" are the ones who practically own this country!! Now they put gays and lesbians in the same group? To discriminate against people who are different? When all they want is the same right as straight people do. I'm so disapointed in California I really thought that we as one of the states with the most races would understand the nature that this bill has done to people whos only wish is to be treated equal. *Picture this: A woman dying in the hospital and the nurse won’t let her partner see her because she’s not a spouse or relative. And her family disowned her because she lives that lifestyle. That woman now dies with no loved ones around. Is that fair? What was your reaction or opinion to the results? (please remember this is just a opinion... dont try and attack anyones post) Marriage has always been considered as being between a Man and a Woman. One of the things that's pissing everyone off is that Gay's and running around, acting like they don't have any fccking sense ! They were raised by parents, that took them to visits friends and family and they were able to see how the world worked. If they decided that this would'nt work for them...okay...fine. But to try and duplicate traditional marriage...with the Civil Union Agreements, and when bored with that...try and go for a legitimate marriage...in which everyone would have to accept, is simply an abomanation to God and Christians everywhere. Gay's should have know that people would toll the line on this. At this point...the gay's that wanted to get marriaged I hope have done so...and the one's that did'nt....Shut Up ! need i remind u and everyone this is suppose to be a healthy discussion... and to respect those thoughts and opinions of everyone else What could be healthier then the truth ! Sometimes, the true hurts !

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 11/06/08 02:44 PM
I P***y

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Thu 11/06/08 03:47 PM
Religion has no place in government where the law is concerned.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 11/06/08 07:15 PM
my daughter is 13 and she is in the girl stage...She came to me and told me she kissed a girl...Sure i am not going to jump up and down but i told her that I went through the same stage as she did and that it might be a phase or might not...regardless i would love her no matter what... My son says he wants to marry me when he gets older..Who is going to battle me on that one I dare ya More people definitely need to be open with their kids about what's going on without them. I'm glad to hear you're doing that! My child has known about gay people for quite awhile. There are two children down the street with "two moms". Why shouldn't children know about it? It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not.

msmyka Joined Sat 03/22/08 Posts: 17079	Thu 11/06/08 07:16 PM
Religion has no place in government where the law is concerned. I couldn't agree more.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Thu 11/06/08 07:16 PM
I just saw of Fox that a church donated over 1 million$ for support of Prop8..THEY SHOULD LOSE THEIR TAX EXEMPTION AND PAY TAXES....I AM OUTRAGED!!!!!! No church should have to sacrifce their values for tax exemption...that's blackmail. Freedom of speech should NEVER be infringed upon. NEVER! The IRS rules for churchs and charities Exemption Requirements To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170. The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction. Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues. Accessibility \| FirstGov.gov \| Freedom of Information Act \| Important Links \| IRS Privacy Policy \| U.S. Treasury http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html

classickiss Joined Tue 11/04/08 Posts: 72	Fri 11/07/08 08:14 AM
Religion has no place in government where the law is concerned. I couldn't agree more. ditto

Thomas27 Joined Sun 10/21/07 Posts: 4860	Fri 11/07/08 08:25 AM
It's not like gay people have a choice on whether to be gay or not. I'm not sure I agree with that.... Are you saying you believe some people are born gay and it is totally beyond their control which way they steer?