Topic: PROP 8
feralcatlady's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:27 PM


I am going to get hell for this....but what else is new.

I believe that every human being has the right to love who they want. I also believe that each individual has a right to medical and all other benefits of married couples. Do it in the court house......or wherever...

But in a church no way jose. It is a sin whether people want to close their eyes to it or not. God says and therefore that is it. If man was intended to be with man and woman with woman then by golly that is how it would of been. In the eyes of the Lord or in a church same sex marriage.....NEVER


I voted YES


And I believe it with every fiber of my being....And I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends...I love the sinner not the sin...And they all know exactly where I stand on this.



this is y we r seperated by church and state for a reason!




Do people not read........you will never separate church and state...God has his hands everywhere love...and nothing is done without his complete knowledge and he knows exactly what is going to happen with it all.

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:28 PM




it's called being grounded in my beliefs..and...principles...I was born and raised in a strict Catholic upbringing...I just can't change the way I was brought up...



so was i... but its called havin an open mind... and to not discrimate against those who r diff... god also says to love thy neighbor


Like I said doll Love the sinner hate the sin......


i wasnt quoting u

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:29 PM



I am going to get hell for this....but what else is new.

I believe that every human being has the right to love who they want. I also believe that each individual has a right to medical and all other benefits of married couples. Do it in the court house......or wherever...

But in a church no way jose. It is a sin whether people want to close their eyes to it or not. God says and therefore that is it. If man was intended to be with man and woman with woman then by golly that is how it would of been. In the eyes of the Lord or in a church same sex marriage.....NEVER


I voted YES


And I believe it with every fiber of my being....And I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends...I love the sinner not the sin...And they all know exactly where I stand on this.



this is y we r seperated by church and state for a reason!




Do people not read........you will never separate church and state...God has his hands everywhere love...and nothing is done without his complete knowledge and he knows exactly what is going to happen with it all.


sweetie read my one about if there was a god

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:29 PM


See this is the deal for me and me alone....Whatever the heck you people want to believe is totally up to you...


First off to say separate church and state...Is so really truly putting your head in the sand....God is all over everything...There is not one thing on this planet that he doesn't know about. And in the end the government is going to mean jack diddly anyway....Because when Christ comes back he will be in charge. HE WILL BE THE GOVERNING HEAD OF THIS PLANET.

From the beginning of time God had a part in bringing the great men into the government....Read Kings....Godly men are in every aspect of our government...take it out and do it your way......This is what I hear over and over....Well God will love me anyway....And this is true....Always God loves you.....the sinner which we all are....But not the Sin....never ever....and to think that your the exception to this rule....is just never going to make it so. God has standards for us to live by....so don't and pay the price. And not a scare tactic just a fact.


Again don't believe do as you wish, think that because you love a woman and are a woman it's ok....same for a man and a man....But everything in life has a consequence so says the Lord.

Look at the history of the United States of America and see how much God has always been part of it. Take him out and what then........Well we will see.....We will see.....and please read my piece in the thread HOPE......


if there was a god... y did he allow us to have soo many diff religions?!?! if there was god and he said love thy neighbor y did he put us to war? if there was a god y did has it come to this? tearing people apart just cuz one person wants to love the same sex and show it to him too with his love in there hearts?



If there was a God.....correction There is God....Man made religion not God. God didn't put us at war....man did that. next.....This love is why the Lord gave us freewill...He doesn't want you if it's not of your own freewill....And people can love who they wish....but if it is a sin to God...please know that they will pay for the consequences of their choices.....again free will.

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:30 PM



it's called being grounded in my beliefs..and...principles...I was born and raised in a strict Catholic upbringing...I just can't change the way I was brought up...



so was i... but its called havin an open mind... and to not discrimate against those who r diff... god also says to love thy neighbor


being grounded in my beliefs, and principles...is about standing firm in what I believe to be... a behavior that is wrong...it's not about the human face in my case...its about the behavior...what you believe is your beliefs and you're not changing...right ?...I'm not trying to change anyone...the way I was raised...can never be changed...

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:33 PM



See this is the deal for me and me alone....Whatever the heck you people want to believe is totally up to you...


First off to say separate church and state...Is so really truly putting your head in the sand....God is all over everything...There is not one thing on this planet that he doesn't know about. And in the end the government is going to mean jack diddly anyway....Because when Christ comes back he will be in charge. HE WILL BE THE GOVERNING HEAD OF THIS PLANET.

From the beginning of time God had a part in bringing the great men into the government....Read Kings....Godly men are in every aspect of our government...take it out and do it your way......This is what I hear over and over....Well God will love me anyway....And this is true....Always God loves you.....the sinner which we all are....But not the Sin....never ever....and to think that your the exception to this rule....is just never going to make it so. God has standards for us to live by....so don't and pay the price. And not a scare tactic just a fact.


Again don't believe do as you wish, think that because you love a woman and are a woman it's ok....same for a man and a man....But everything in life has a consequence so says the Lord.

Look at the history of the United States of America and see how much God has always been part of it. Take him out and what then........Well we will see.....We will see.....and please read my piece in the thread HOPE......


if there was a god... y did he allow us to have soo many diff religions?!?! if there was god and he said love thy neighbor y did he put us to war? if there was a god y did has it come to this? tearing people apart just cuz one person wants to love the same sex and show it to him too with his love in there hearts?



If there was a God.....correction There is God....Man made religion not God. God didn't put us at war....man did that. next.....This love is why the Lord gave us freewill...He doesn't want you if it's not of your own freewill....And people can love who they wish....but if it is a sin to God...please know that they will pay for the consequences of their choices.....again free will.


ur belief if to have someone uve never seen and believe in a book that was supposedly writtin by his people... who by the way shunned a non believer (judus) so we as people of minoritys like gays and lesbians should feel the same? if god didnt want what we have now, a socity wanting to grow... we would still be in dark ages

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:35 PM
Edited by classickiss on Wed 11/05/08 02:35 PM




it's called being grounded in my beliefs..and...principles...I was born and raised in a strict Catholic upbringing...I just can't change the way I was brought up...



so was i... but its called havin an open mind... and to not discrimate against those who r diff... god also says to love thy neighbor


being grounded in my beliefs, and principles...is about standing firm in what I believe to be... a behavior that is wrong...it's not about the human face in my case...its about the behavior...what you believe is your beliefs and you're not changing...right ?...I'm not trying to change anyone...the way I was raised...can never be changed...


my point is that it can be... i was raised in a catholic house... went to privite skools and my folks still go to church... but i took a step back when i was old ebough to think for myself... and now feel that sayin one person havin love for another person of the same sex should be allowed in any house... be it home or the lord

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:46 PM





it's called being grounded in my beliefs..and...principles...I was born and raised in a strict Catholic upbringing...I just can't change the way I was brought up...



so was i... but its called havin an open mind... and to not discrimate against those who r diff... god also says to love thy neighbor


being grounded in my beliefs, and principles...is about standing firm in what I believe to be... a behavior that is wrong...it's not about the human face in my case...its about the behavior...what you believe is your beliefs and you're not changing...right ?...I'm not trying to change anyone...the way I was raised...can never be changed...


my point is that it can be... i was raised in a catholic house... went to privite skools and my folks still go to church... but i took a step back when i was old ebough to think for myself... and now feel that sayin one person havin love for another person of the same sex should be allowed in any house... be it home or the lord


I agee with you !!...my only objection and disagreement is legalizing gay marriage...I just can't see making legal...something that I think is wrong...thats all i'm saying...afterall...I'm just a good Catholic boy...:angel:




classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:48 PM
blah! i hate religion... and how it thinks it has a part in everyones life... and everything on this planet

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/05/08 02:50 PM

blah! i hate religion... and how it thinks it has a part in everyones life... and everything on this planet



I'll bet you're spiritual in some sort of way...without being religious...right ?...come on young lady....you can confess to Father Anthony...LOL

tommyd's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:03 PM
was it YES or NO

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:06 PM

was it YES or NO


I think she's still praying...lol

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:07 PM


blah! i hate religion... and how it thinks it has a part in everyones life... and everything on this planet



I'll bet you're spiritual in some sort of way...without being religious...right ?...come on young lady....you can confess to Father Anthony...LOL


im not. seriously. i live my life that i think makes me happy... and i hope my daughter will do the same... wither it be religion or if she was a lesbian... i dont care as long as she does it with no regrets

tommyd's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:08 PM
did the yes win or did the no win

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:09 PM

did the yes win or did the no win


the yes won


(if it takes me a bit to respond its cuz im at work and someone had me get up and do something)

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:12 PM


did the yes win or did the no win


the yes won


(if it takes me a bit to respond its cuz im at work and someone had me get up and do something)


you mean you're working at work ?...:smile:

classickiss's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:15 PM
Edited by classickiss on Wed 11/05/08 03:15 PM
what i meant was i mainly sit at my desk and work... but sometimes i actually have to get my ass up and walk around the office

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:18 PM

what i meant was i mainly sit at my desk and work... but sometimes i actually have to get my ass up and walk around the office


well everyone can use some exercise...bigsmile







ChefBadger's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:26 PM
Edited by ChefBadger on Wed 11/05/08 03:28 PM



I am going to get hell for this....but what else is new.

I believe that every human being has the right to love who they want. I also believe that each individual has a right to medical and all other benefits of married couples. Do it in the court house......or wherever...

But in a church no way jose. It is a sin whether people want to close their eyes to it or not. God says and therefore that is it. If man was intended to be with man and woman with woman then by golly that is how it would of been. In the eyes of the Lord or in a church same sex marriage.....NEVER


I voted YES


And I believe it with every fiber of my being....And I have a lot of gay and lesbian friends...I love the sinner not the sin...And they all know exactly where I stand on this.



this is y we r seperated by church and state for a reason!




Do people not read........you will never separate church and state...God has his hands everywhere love...and nothing is done without his complete knowledge and he knows exactly what is going to happen with it all.


Since God is NOT the church, God is separate from the Church.

So that way we dont have His corrupt, hate filled, self-appointed representation making decisions for a country full of people that dont necessarily subscribe to their VERSION of how things are.

SO YES THE CHURCH IS SEPARATE FROM THE THE STATE.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then He is not omnipotent.
Is He able but not willing?
Then He is malevolent.
Is He both able, AND willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is He neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.
- Epicurus

tommyd's photo
Wed 11/05/08 03:27 PM
I think the "no" would have won if they didn't try to puch it on kids that it was ok.