This is a false Dichotomy. There are more then two possibilities, there is not just God, or infinite nothingness, there could have always been a something, matter is energy and there could have always been a universe creating mechanism . . . just because we don't understand does not = god.
This is a Disingenuous response to this poster.

How can you speak for him as to what proof is? Are all people who are skeptical incapable of accepting any proof? That is fallacious.

42 is the key number in predicting the actual weight of the Universe.

it doesn't bother me at all if a person chooses to believe in God or not and i wouldn't ever push my views or opinions on another, or imply - in any way - that my life was more enriched than theirs, simply because i believed.

what is important to me is my relationship with God, the way that i live my life, and that a person i choose to befriend is basically a good person (christian, jew, or atheist).




^^^ one of the best quotes i've ever read. simply inspiring, as usual.

Answer to The Ultimate Question Of Life, the Universe and Everything is simply "42," the numeric produced using the hypercomputer, Deep Thought, after a very long computation time (7.5 million years).

But Deep Thought's abilities came up short when asked to provide the Ultimate Question to match the answer of 42. Thereafter, the answer given by Deep Thought prompts Arthur Dent and the Hitchhikers to embark on a quest to discover the Question to which this is the Answer.

Aquinas' First Argument, Motion
(1) Objects are in motion.
(2) If something is in motion, then it must be caused to be in motion by something outside of itself.
(3) There can be no infinite chain of movers/movees.
(4) So there is a first, unmoved mover.
(5) Therefore, God exists.

Aquinas' Second Argument, Causality
(1) Some events cause other events.
(2) If an event happens, then it must be caused by something outside of itself.
(3) There can be no infinite cause/effect chains.
(4) So, there is a first, uncaused cause.
(5) Therefore God exists.

Aquinas' Third Argument, Contingency
(1) Contingent things exist.
(2) Each contingent thing has a time at which it fails to exist (contingent things are not omnipresent).
(3) So, if everything were contingent, there would be a time at which nothing exists (call this an empty time).
(4) That empty time would have been in the past.
(5) If the world were empty at one time, it would be empty forever after (a conservation principle).
(6) So, if everything were contingent, nothing would exist now.
(7) But clearly, the world is not empty (premise 1).
(8) So there exists a being who is not contingent.
(9) Hence, God exists.

Aquinas' Fourth Argument, Properties That Come in Degrees
(1) Objects have properties to greater or lesser extents.
(2) If an object has a property to a lesser extent, then there exists some other object that has the property to the maximum possible degree.
(3) So there is an entity that has all properties to the maximum possible degree.
(4) Hence God exists.

Aquinas' Fifth Argument, From Design
(1) Among objects that act for an end, some have minds, whereas others do not.
(2) An object that acts for an end, but does not itself have a mind, must have been created by a being that has a mind.
(3) So there exists a being with a mind who designed all mindless objects that act for an end.
(4) Hence, God exists.

Anselm's Argument, The Ontological Argument
(1) God is by definition the greatest possible being.
(2) A being who fails to exist in the actual world (while existing in other possible worlds) is less perfect than a being who exists in all possible worlds.
(3) Hence, God exists, necessarily.

What is 6 x 7?

Thats just retarded.

It is 'What is 21 x 2?'. Spastic.

I am going with Bill Maher on this one. Saw the movie last week. It was a blast.

Jesus is just alright with me

D'OH!!!!!

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Same answer, mong

Ah yes, I now understand... the Babel Fish was my ex-wife. "...absorbing all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with."

Her name was Karen...

Therefore, through much scientific research...

Babel Fish = Karen

Yeah but it was a different question, Joey Deacon!

I did not create myself nor give myself life, there fore something else created me, that something else i call god for conversations sake.

I am thinking that it is entirely possible that God can exist yet at the same time not exist.

Since there is no proof that he does NOT exist, there is also equally as much proof that he DOES exist. So there fore we have a split decision of sorts. Lacking proof on both sides, no one can prove or disprove God.

One can prove certain limited things about the universe, according to our limited mental capabilities as humans, but are these things absolutes? If they are absolutes, we are stating that the universe only exists according to a human-determined set of sciences. There are (in human science) a specific, limited number of elements on the periodic table. Through our science we claim to "know" that these are the only elements in the entire universe. Or are they?

Humankind must relate to reality in forms of satisfying acknowledgements. A mind, or a gathering of minds might agree on one single set of scientific principles, but are these scientific principles absolute?

If they were absolute, then there would have never been even one advancemnet in science from the beginning of time. Therefore, the study of human science is not perfect, nor can it be because a human being's mind is not all-encompassing and absolute. Neither are any writings any human has ever written on parchment, paper or a computer screen.

Instead our cognitive minds are forever curious and forever constantly creating new sciences to discover yet unanswered notions about all manners of the physical world.

Science needs empirical evidence to travel forward.

Religion needs metaphisical faith to travel forward.

Both science and religion are matters that can exist in the cognitive mind of humans.

Trying to prove that one exists while the other does not will most likely take another billion years or so...

When I asked Jesus to come into my heart, and become my Lord and Saviour,

God ...thru His Holy Spirit ... stepped into my heart....thus letting me KNOW He is REAL .

God's Holy Spirit bore witness with my spirit, letting me know without a shadow of doubt, that I was born again.

You can be born again too .....in yuor spirit also....
and that way you will know too ...that God is REAL


God never leaves us still guessing....or still in the dark.... once He takes up residence in our hearts........He Will Always make Himself KNOWN to us....when we seek Him with our WHOLE HEART.

Want to know if God is Real?

Just ask Him to show you that He is Real........and He Will.
Promise.

I just asked . . . no response . . . I think he might be in the bathroom.

When you Churchies talk like that it just puts me off even further! Makes me laugh though.

First things first.

You have to define "God" and then agree on that premise with the person you are attempting to prove or disprove his or her or Its existence or non-existence.

So until you do that, you are just spinning your wheels.