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Edited by
splendidlife
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God should be the one to prove that he exists rather than keeping us all guessing all the time and fighting wars in his name. If he cant prove it, then thats his problem. Obviously, even if He did prove it (which He has done on numerous occasions) it would never be enough proof for you. To believers,no amount of proof is needed, to skeptics no amount of proof is sufficient. That is your issue not His. People cannot make you believe something that you don't or won't. But I will tell you this, when you or someone you love is very sick or hurting or dying, or in some situation that you can't seem to make your way out of, the only one who will be able to help you is God. And I hope you find Him before anything like that happens because I want you to know that He is always there for you, even when you don't see Him and your back is turned to Him. Spare me the clap trap please, i dont need this God character even if he did exist. I get by very well already without him, i dont need anyone to 'guide' me or any of that bollocks. I'll just go stand with the other several billion that doesnt believe in Christianity, i'll be ok. But i would believe in him if there was some proof. You say he has done this on numerous occasions, but im yet to hear of it. Perhaps you are ignoring it ;o) That wouldn't be unheard of, you know. Perhaps, God deserves to be ignored, with the amount of people he allows to be killed in his name. Perhaps anyone that kills in the name of "God" is out of touch with their own humanity, having little to nothing to do with any actual God. ...Or, perhaps being out of touch with one's own humanity (for a time) is part of the "grand design"... 
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There is only ONE Book that speaks the future before it happens, is never off even a little tiny fraction of a bit. So read all the feel good books first, then look into that ONE Book which declares the end from the beginning, telling YOU things before they happen for the stated purpose of YOU knowing that HE IS. And which book would that be?  We know for a fact, that the Torah, the Christian Bible, and the Quran are all the corrupted failings of a single mythology that become extremely ambigious and confused. We also know that all of these doctines are filled with plagiarized material from various other mythologies in the Mediterranean area. Finally when it comes to the Christian Bible, it is clearly the most self-contradicting of all. The book claims that God is unchanging, yet the God in the New Testament of the Christian bible is a completely different persona from the God of the Old Testament and actually does change the rules. Thus proving conclusively that the book is false becuase it claimed that God doesn't change but then it had God changing. Clearly that book is not worthy of anyone's serious attention. So which ONE book were you suggesting again? |
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Why does there HAVE to be a begining? Or an end? Is it possible that all things exist AT THE SAME POINT within the reality that encompasses all of our (each to their own) smaller realities? Don't know - that's the root of the paradox. Was there a beginning to the universe? Will it end? Observation of the universe tends to show that it is expanding away from a central point of creation... and that possibly the universe will re-fall back together again on itself. Who knows? |
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Why does there HAVE to be a begining? Or an end? Is it possible that all things exist AT THE SAME POINT within the reality that encompasses all of our (each to their own) smaller realities? Oh and according to quantum mechanics, everything does exist in all places at once (infinite realities) and only has a *probability* at being at any one point at any time. And believe it or not - there is an observable/testable basis for the theory (using light). Quantum mechanics gets crazy. lol |
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Why does there HAVE to be a begining? Or an end? Is it possible that all things exist AT THE SAME POINT within the reality that encompasses all of our (each to their own) smaller realities? Don't know - that's the root of the paradox. Was there a beginning to the universe? Will it end? Observation of the universe tends to show that it is expanding away from a central point of creation... and that possibly the universe will re-fall back together again on itself. Who knows? This much I feel to be certain... When we observe the universe we see only that which we are a part of within our range of vision... Which is most likely contained within something greater... That we (being on the inside of the event horizon) can not YET measure. We have existed for but a tick of the 'time' of this universe... who is to say what that 'future' which is the future of that reality which is our observed universe will lead us to? |
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God should be the one to prove that he exists rather than keeping us all guessing all the time and fighting wars in his name. If he cant prove it, then thats his problem. Again, Dan, I can't make you believe that God exists if you don't want to. I just know what I believe and what I wish you would find. I wish I could share that joy with you. I think you'd realize how much you've been missing it, also. Also, I'm not here to get in a fight with you over the issue. So have a great day okay? |
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From The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. "Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing." |
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Edited by
SkyHook5652
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Tue 10/28/08 01:14 PM
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I am flesh and blood...I bleed, i cry, i can die any day. i know that I have a soul that will never die I prefere to think of it this way: I have flesh and blood ...It bleeds, it cries, it can die any day. I am a soul that will never die |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 10/28/08 01:22 PM
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Please drove that 'god' exists. If you can...  Come into my love chamber and you will be singing his praises in short order.  God exists because I am. 
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you can pick it all apart..and analyze it till you are blue in the face.....you can ask God for proof. (although i would never dare) What if you can't feel him when you close your eyes?
or you can close your eyes and feel him at your side. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Tue 10/28/08 01:18 PM
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Please prove that 'god' exists. If you can... If that doesn't work I have a little green pill for you to take.. 
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God should be the one to prove that he exists rather than keeping us all guessing all the time and fighting wars in his name. If he cant prove it, then thats his problem. Again, Dan, I can't make you believe that God exists if you don't want to. I just know what I believe and what I wish you would find. I wish I could share that joy with you. I think you'd realize how much you've been missing it, also. Also, I'm not here to get in a fight with you over the issue. So have a great day okay? What you religious lot dont understand is that my faith in the fact that your religion is false is at least as strong as yours that it is true. Mine is backed up with a whole load more logic and science as well. If you dont want to fight with me stop coming back at me with sh1t like 'i wish i could share that joy with you'. I have a perfectly joyful life already thank you, i really am not missing out on anything, trust me. |
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From The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. "Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing." What is a Babel fish? |
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I have no idea if the thread holder is searching in truth and in love, or if it is posted for instigation, regardless: There is only ONE Book that speaks the future before it happens, is never off even a little tiny fraction of a bit. So read all the feel good books first, then look into that ONE Book which declares the end from the beginning, telling YOU things before they happen for the stated purpose of YOU knowing that HE IS. Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God (God-Breathed), and is profitable for (1) doctrine (grade school learning), for (2) reproof (to prove again that you passed the grade school test), for (3)correction (re: the answers you got wrong), for (4)instruction in righteousness (how to graduate to college level equivalence). Oh really? What book would that be? |
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What is a Babel fish? "The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language." Obviously, this is from another work of fiction. |
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Edited by
catwoman96
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Tue 10/28/08 01:26 PM
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I am flesh and blood...I bleed, i cry, i can die any day. i know that I have a soul that will never die I prefere to think of it this way: I have flesh and blood ...It bleeds, it cries, it can die any day. I am a soul that will never die ya I like how you said it better. I was just typing whateva. but the way you said it....its my soul that walks in my flesh. its my soul that keeps my body "feeling". my spirit. My body will die someday...but my soul will fly high. and i suppose tears....are my soul talking physically. a persons soul comes out physically with the things I allow my body to say and do. |
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Gods and religions were created originally to explain things...how the sun rises, trees and grass grow and such...and then used to control and scare people...but believe what you will...still waiting for explanation of Gods little screw up with the whole dinosaur thing which day did God create Animals??? some days fly faster than others.... is a day defined by time that you sleep? or hours? How did God define a DAy???? |
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What is a Babel fish? "The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix, formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear, you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language." Obviously, this is from another work of fiction. The Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything... ...42 |
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If you can... |
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The Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything... ...42  But what is the question? |
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