Topic: doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law
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Tue 10/28/08 05:23 AM









funch:

doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law


tribo:

NO!


YES


no no no


now I see where "Skyhook" get that behavior from


well then stop teaching him to say YES then, your a bad influence.


he only says yes when I say no


No he doesn't


no he does?


does not!


did?

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Tue 10/28/08 05:31 AM
Edited by funches on Tue 10/28/08 05:33 AM

Funches......the Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up the Godhead.

And Funches, the Father gave us His Only Begotten Son Jesus....Who became the perfect sacrificial LAMB( the Lamb of God) for our sins on that cross..bearing our sins...bearing it all....but on the third day Jesus rose from the dead..and Lives!!

And Funches, with that sacrifice that Jesus was willing to pay for all our sins( so we would not have to bear them anymore...or pay for them ourselves) on that cross, Jesus won a great Victory!!

See Funches....the devil thought he had Jesus..and thought he defeated Jesus and won..but nope... the devil lost....because in that great sacrifice that Jesus paid on that cross for us all
.....Jesus now has made a WAY for all mankind to be saved...and brought back into fellowship with the Father....thru accepting what Jesus did on that cross..and believing on Him.
(Sin cut us off from that fellowship with God...Jesus is the WAY back to God).

Funches...If not for what Jesus did on that cross, we would still be all lost in our sins.

But because of what Jesus did..and because He Lives..we have hope for tomorrow..and new life offered us also... that we might also live...forever with God again one day. :heart::heart::heart:

And Funches?

It's a Free Gift of grace..Jesus already paid the price in full....and not one bit of works on our part , can EARN our way to salvation...cause no works on our part could even close to what Jesus already did for us.

To think we have to add works to get saved, would be like saying Jesus did not do enough on that cross.:heart::heart::heart:

Funches........do you Hear Jesus knocking on your hearts door?
Open up...let Him in Funches.

Cause when you do,Your life will never be the same.
Promise.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

flowerforyou


"MorningSong" ...if Jesus is God then he was never in any type of danger ..so how can you claim that the devil tempted God if God is all knowing and would know what satan was up to before satan was created

jesus as a god would also know that he would live forever as god which means that when Jesus died it was all just a game and he sacrifice nothing

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Tue 10/28/08 06:01 AM
Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.

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Tue 10/28/08 07:05 AM

Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on

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Tue 10/28/08 07:07 AM


Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on


I dont understand that statement at all. I am not Christian so I will leave you to it.

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Tue 10/28/08 07:23 AM



Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on


I dont understand that statement at all. I am not Christian so I will leave you to it.


"Krimsa" your thinking and reasoning skills are no different than a christian which only means you are human like them but yet you can't imagine why they think the way they do when it comes to the bible when your faith in the big bang theory is no different then their faith in God

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Tue 10/28/08 07:25 AM




Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on


I dont understand that statement at all. I am not Christian so I will leave you to it.


"Krimsa" your thinking and reasoning skills are no different than a christian which only means you are human like them but yet you can't imagine why they think the way they do when it comes to the bible when your faith in the big bang theory is no different then their faith in God


You would need to provide supportive evidence on either of your threads first to prove this to be the case.

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Tue 10/28/08 07:44 AM





Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on


I dont understand that statement at all. I am not Christian so I will leave you to it.


"Krimsa" your thinking and reasoning skills are no different than a christian which only means you are human like them but yet you can't imagine why they think the way they do when it comes to the bible when your faith in the big bang theory is no different then their faith in God


You would need to provide supportive evidence on either of your threads first to prove this to be the case.


"Krimsa"...my supportive evidence is your own words ...you said that you accept the big bang theory as being fact and not theory ..the religious say the same thing about the bible

which means the "One Singularity" is your science god...and I can prove this

simply explain where "The One Singularity" that makes up the big bang which is responsible for the creation of all life on earth came from

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Tue 10/28/08 08:19 AM






Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on


I dont understand that statement at all. I am not Christian so I will leave you to it.


"Krimsa" your thinking and reasoning skills are no different than a christian which only means you are human like them but yet you can't imagine why they think the way they do when it comes to the bible when your faith in the big bang theory is no different then their faith in God


You would need to provide supportive evidence on either of your threads first to prove this to be the case.


"Krimsa"...my supportive evidence is your own words ...you said that you accept the big bang theory as being fact and not theory ..the religious say the same thing about the bible

which means the "One Singularity" is your science god...and I can prove this

simply explain where "The One Singularity" that makes up the big bang which is responsible for the creation of all life on earth came from


First explain to me where the concept of your "god" came from if it is not an invented premise by human beings which were brought into existence by the process known as anthropogenesis or Human Evolutionary Biology. laugh :wink:

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Tue 10/28/08 08:25 AM
Shalom Krimsa

Myself and MS have a belief that we use as our source. I do not worship or will not accept what MS believes.

She asks me questions and i answer and when she does not like my answers she says I have not been born again.

This statement in itself shows that she believes she can make my knowledge of no use. Because I do not have the Holy Spirit and the spirit I have is a false one.

I am not a chr-stian and never will be again as I once was.

The scriptures bare out who or what that religion is and they hate me challenging it.

Blessings of Shalom...Miles

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Tue 10/28/08 09:49 AM







Im not certain that Jesus was aware of anything of a sort at the time of his capture Funches. If he existed he was a man and scared shi-less. The Romans didnt simply tie you to a cross but captives were "scourged" sometimes for hours ahead of time. If you dont know what that process entails exactly, look it up.


"Krimsa" remember now you always go by whats written down as to be true ..so whats written down in the bible is that Jesus was the son of god which means according to your line of reasoning Jesus therefore was not just simply a man but actually the son of god and therefore god and therefore did know what was going on


I dont understand that statement at all. I am not Christian so I will leave you to it.


"Krimsa" your thinking and reasoning skills are no different than a christian which only means you are human like them but yet you can't imagine why they think the way they do when it comes to the bible when your faith in the big bang theory is no different then their faith in God


You would need to provide supportive evidence on either of your threads first to prove this to be the case.


"Krimsa"...my supportive evidence is your own words ...you said that you accept the big bang theory as being fact and not theory ..the religious say the same thing about the bible

which means the "One Singularity" is your science god...and I can prove this

simply explain where "The One Singularity" that makes up the big bang which is responsible for the creation of all life on earth came from


First explain to me where the concept of your "god" came from if it is not an invented premise by human beings which were brought into existence by the process known as anthropogenesis or Human Evolutionary Biology. laugh :wink:


so ...er..."Krimsa" are you going to answer the question? ..explain where the 'One Singularity" came from

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Tue 10/28/08 09:51 AM
No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?

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Tue 10/28/08 09:59 AM

No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"

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Tue 10/28/08 10:04 AM


No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"


Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of?

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Tue 10/28/08 10:15 AM



No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"


Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of?


"Krimsa" now you are making excuses...
but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ...

you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own


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Tue 10/28/08 10:30 AM




No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"


Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of?


"Krimsa" now you are making excuses...
but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ...

you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own




Huh... 'One singularity'...?

In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity...

there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium.

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Tue 10/28/08 11:16 AM





No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"


Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of?


"Krimsa" now you are making excuses...
but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ...

you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own




Huh... 'One singularity'...?

In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity...

there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium.


'AdventureBegins" ...if your theory was true...The One Singularity would have been confirm to only that space and couldn't have taken place ...since according to the theory the big bang did take place it would have needed room for expansion therefore meaning it's immediate surroundings was not greater than itself

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Tue 10/28/08 11:27 AM






No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"


Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of?


"Krimsa" now you are making excuses...
but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ...

you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own




Huh... 'One singularity'...?

In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity...

there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium.


'AdventureBegins" ...if your theory was true...The One Singularity would have been confirm to only that space and couldn't have taken place ...since according to the theory the big bang did take place it would have needed room for expansion therefore meaning it's immediate surroundings was not greater than itself

to the contrary. Once begin expanding all space contained within the singularity would also expand. We proabally live within a large singularity, which may or may not be contained withing another singularity.

An event horizon has two sides. The one seen by an outside observer... Which indicates to that observer that light cannot escape the singularity.
But there is also a side of the event horizon which is seen by an inside observer... Which might indicate that the edge of their known universe is constantly expanding...

Only the observer within that singularity knows the reality of the size (as measured by that observers reality) of the world within that singularity. Quantum thought... If you are a grain of sand on a large beach you could not see the world beyond the beach until you increased your vision beoynd your own small sand box.

smokin

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Tue 10/28/08 11:37 AM







No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree?


"Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question

or you could simply said that "you don't know"


Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of?


"Krimsa" now you are making excuses...
but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ...

you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own




Huh... 'One singularity'...?

In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity...

there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium.


'AdventureBegins" ...if your theory was true...The One Singularity would have been confirm to only that space and couldn't have taken place ...since according to the theory the big bang did take place it would have needed room for expansion therefore meaning it's immediate surroundings was not greater than itself

to the contrary. Once begin expanding all space contained within the singularity would also expand. We proabally live within a large singularity, which may or may not be contained withing another singularity.

An event horizon has two sides. The one seen by an outside observer... Which indicates to that observer that light cannot escape the singularity.
But there is also a side of the event horizon which is seen by an inside observer... Which might indicate that the edge of their known universe is constantly expanding...

Only the observer within that singularity knows the reality of the size (as measured by that observers reality) of the world within that singularity. Quantum thought... If you are a grain of sand on a large beach you could not see the world beyond the beach until you increased your vision beoynd your own small sand box.

smokin


"AdventureBegins" Quantum thought or quantum physis can only explains the inter working of the big bang but may not apply or even function beyond the "One Singularity"

according to theory the universe is expanding but it could be just a black hole that is expanding within itself constantly collapseing back into the "One Singularity" ...either way it doesn't address the question as where the 'One Singularity" came from

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Tue 10/28/08 11:45 AM


Miles, unless a man is born again,he cannot see or know or enter the Kingdom of God.

Also, it is ONLY when a man is born again, that the Holy Spirit INDWELLS him....and then leads and guides him into all truth.



:heart:

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Im confused. You and Miles are both Christians correct? Or do you consider his observance of the religion in fact "wrong" and yours "right" and vice versa? How do you determine something like that exactly? Isnt it totally subjective? You both accept the notion of "god" correct? And is it the same god? You also both accept Jesus as your savior? What about Catholics and Protestants? Whats wrong with them exactly? So is everyone else bound for hell unless they are not only Christian but also Born Again Christian? noway


Krimsa....Miles has confessed that he is Not a Christian.