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Topic: doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law
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Thu 06/23/11 11:59 AM



No, our death on Earth is not planned ahead of time. There are no "destinies".


that a Messiah will come, proves your statement as being blasphemy


No it does not. That is the plan for Jesus coming to Earth again, that doesn't directly effect you.


cool so I'm the only one in the history of mankind that won't be directly affected by the battle at Armageddon brought on by the second coming of Jesus

that mean I get to sit back drink beer eat greasy food munch on popcorn and watch the final battle between good and evil on CNN or perhaps the sci-fi channel

why not...since it doesn't directly affect me








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Thu 06/23/11 12:05 PM

Just take for instance something that has happened to me as an example. We lived in Kentucky for a while, my parents left but I stayed. I was then in a major car wrech. Do I blame God? No, absolutely not. For it was my own personal choice to remain in Kentucky. And so on and so on. Things like this happens to us all, everyday. Little things to major things. But it all revolves around our own choices and decisions brought on us, but us. Not by God.


In religion there is simply no such thing as "Sh_t Happens" ... .....everything happens for a reason and it's all part of God's Divine Plan

this is why your car wreck was God's Will


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Thu 06/23/11 12:21 PM



Don't know, isn't really important to know. But Jesus did have a job. Jesus did labour at one point in his life, he was a carpenter.


Jesus could had bartered his services ...also preist have jobs but no money

it's impossible to have or handle any money that didn't spawn from purposes of evil or to committ evil ...this is why True Believers take a vow of poverty




Again not true. To get the food you need, it takes money.


I wonder if you also believed that Adam and Eve needed money

but anyway ...you have many options of living without needing money as a show of faith....you can go live in a monstery they will feed you...go live among the forest creatures and eat nuts and berries ....there are cultures that exist in the world that get food without money

you have become addicted to money and the power it brings that's why you choose to live within a society where money is God ....

you keep making excuses why you need the root of all evil ....




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Thu 06/23/11 12:36 PM



Why would it require him to have those? Those are not necessary for survival. Those are luxuries. Jesus did not have anything, because he did not live for himself. He did not set up treasures for himself on earth eg., luxuries. Things of this world decays, rots away, and in time is destroyed. He was working for the gifts of heaven, not the gifts of this world. Just as he has told us to do.


cool...so now explain why you have the luxury of a computer while others in the world have no food

your explanation may help you understand why True Believers takes a vow of poverty and why agnostics don't


Because with obtaining this computer it gives me the possibility of spreading the good news. It gives me a tool and the resources to learn more about God our father and that gives me more tools through the day to spread the word, to share the great news.


so your explantion as to why you need the luxury of a computer while others are starving is because it provides you with the possibility of sharing great news .....

and that's the difference between a true believer and an agnostic ...it's a test of faith not to have any luxuries because it's Temptation

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Thu 06/23/11 01:04 PM




No, our death on Earth is not planned ahead of time. There are no "destinies".


that a Messiah will come, proves your statement as being blasphemy


No it does not. That is the plan for Jesus coming to Earth again, that doesn't directly effect you.


cool so I'm the only one in the history of mankind that won't be directly affected by the battle at Armageddon brought on by the second coming of Jesus

that mean I get to sit back drink beer eat greasy food munch on popcorn and watch the final battle between good and evil on CNN or perhaps the sci-fi channel

why not...since it doesn't directly affect me










I'm sorry you do not comprehend what I said and or am saying, I truly do apologise for that. Jesus returning in no way effects your free will, effects your choice of actions, or anything. No less you allow them to effect them. But they do no effect you forcibly in any way shape or form. Something that happens to you or doesn't happen wasn't "destined" to happen or not happen. They happened or didn't happen because of a choice, decision, or action you took. It wasn't again "destined" to happen.

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Thu 06/23/11 01:08 PM




Don't know, isn't really important to know. But Jesus did have a job. Jesus did labour at one point in his life, he was a carpenter.


Jesus could had bartered his services ...also preist have jobs but no money

it's impossible to have or handle any money that didn't spawn from purposes of evil or to committ evil ...this is why True Believers take a vow of poverty




Again not true. To get the food you need, it takes money.


I wonder if you also believed that Adam and Eve needed money

but anyway ...you have many options of living without needing money as a show of faith....you can go live in a monstery they will feed you...go live among the forest creatures and eat nuts and berries ....there are cultures that exist in the world that get food without money

you have become addicted to money and the power it brings that's why you choose to live within a society where money is God ....

you keep making excuses why you need the root of all evil ....






No they didn't need money, you're halarious funches. Don't know where half this stuff comes from you say. Takes me by surprise all the time. Why would they need money funches? What would be the purpose and or where would they get it? Money is merely a promise. The dollar bill has actually no power at all. It is a promissory note. Even says it right on it.


you have many options of living without needing money as a show of faith


??? God doesn't tempt you nor does he test your faith. Again, what in the world are you talking about?

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Thu 06/23/11 01:11 PM




Why would it require him to have those? Those are not necessary for survival. Those are luxuries. Jesus did not have anything, because he did not live for himself. He did not set up treasures for himself on earth eg., luxuries. Things of this world decays, rots away, and in time is destroyed. He was working for the gifts of heaven, not the gifts of this world. Just as he has told us to do.


cool...so now explain why you have the luxury of a computer while others in the world have no food

your explanation may help you understand why True Believers takes a vow of poverty and why agnostics don't


Because with obtaining this computer it gives me the possibility of spreading the good news. It gives me a tool and the resources to learn more about God our father and that gives me more tools through the day to spread the word, to share the great news.


so your explantion as to why you need the luxury of a computer while others are starving is because it provides you with the possibility of sharing great news .....

and that's the difference between a true believer and an agnostic ...it's a test of faith not to have any luxuries because it's Temptation


Again, what in the world are you talking about? You've really really went out in left field today funches. This computer I did not buy, it was given to me. It was a gift. And again, there is no test of any faith. I use this gift to express my faith and to share it with the world.

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Thu 06/23/11 03:58 PM

I'm sorry you do not comprehend what I said and or am saying,I truly do apologise for that


you taking the time to read the bible would solve that little problem


. Jesus returning in no way effects your free will, effects your choice of actions, or anything. No less you allow them to effect them.But they do no effect you forcibly in any way shape or form.


I'm pretty sure that the Jews would agree with you if Hitler ever had a second coming...

I guess Jesus floating down starting a battle between the forces of good and evil wouldn't effect anyone ...I guess neither side would use any humans to do the fighting but each side would use a clone army like they did in Star Wars that way no Humans will be affected as you keep suggesting


Something that happens to you or doesn't happen wasn't "destined" to happen or not happen.


yep..Jesus wasn't destined to be the Messiah and Mary wasn't destined to be his Mother.....it appears that Mary just so happen to be the first of his daughters that God got pregnant and Jesus was the first baby that popped out of her womb and God being guilty of nepotism needed a Messiah and decided to hire a family member...no destiny all accidental


They happened or didn't happen because of a choice, decision, or action you took. It wasn't again "destined" to happen.


yes "Revelations" is wrong and Jesus has "Free Will" and can make the choice not to come back

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Thu 06/23/11 04:08 PM

No they didn't need money, you're halarious funches. Don't know where half this stuff comes from you say. Takes me by surprise all the time. Why would they need money funches? What would be the purpose and or where would they get it? Money is merely a promise. The dollar bill has actually no power at all. It is a promissory note. Even says it right on it.


yes Adam had a job in the garden but yet had no money or didn't need money but yet had food ...this is the Hallmark of a True Believer ...but you keep making up excuses why you as a Christian need money ...which is the hallmark of an addiction to it


??? God doesn't tempt you nor does he test your faith. Again, what in the world are you talking about?


can I assume that you never read the story of "JOB"

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Thu 06/23/11 04:24 PM

Again, what in the world are you talking about? You've really really went out in left field today funches. This computer I did not buy, it was given to me. It was a gift. And again, there is no test of any faith. I use this gift to express my faith and to share it with the world.


a computer whether it's a gift or not is still considered to be a luxury item ....if someone gave you a Rolls Royce as a gift would you also drive around in it and claim that it's how you express your faith ....

how you express your faith whether with a a computer or driving around in a Rolls is your choice...I'm only saying that a True Believer wouldn't use luxury items to do so.....

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Sun 07/17/11 12:06 PM
Edited by nObOdys_wiFe_JM on Sun 07/17/11 12:13 PM
For me, there is ONLY ONE GOD and he is the FATHER of JESUS CHRIST our savior. As far as I can remember, "LORD" and "GOD" and other more are just "TITLE/NAME" but some of them often called "JEHOVAH" or "YHWH".

And I believe that GOD gave us signs so we could do the right thing for our destiny but still we are the final decision of it.

Remember, that GOD is NOT JESUS. GOD is the FATHER of JESUS...JESUS is the SON of GOD. (In the name of the "FATHER"(GOD) and of the "SON"(JESUS) and of the "HOLY SPIRIT"(3rd person).... Amen)

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Mon 07/18/11 04:38 PM
that is the basic concept behind the Christian religion but it has different interpetations depending on one's denomination, I will explain what I mean by using Christian Trinity Math

1+1+1=1
1+1+1=3
1=1
1=3
3=1
1+1+1=3=1

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