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No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree? "Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question or you could simply said that "you don't know" Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of? "Krimsa" now you are making excuses... but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ... you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own Huh... 'One singularity'...? In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity... there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium. 'AdventureBegins" ...if your theory was true...The One Singularity would have been confirm to only that space and couldn't have taken place ...since according to the theory the big bang did take place it would have needed room for expansion therefore meaning it's immediate surroundings was not greater than itself to the contrary. Once begin expanding all space contained within the singularity would also expand. We proabally live within a large singularity, which may or may not be contained withing another singularity. An event horizon has two sides. The one seen by an outside observer... Which indicates to that observer that light cannot escape the singularity. But there is also a side of the event horizon which is seen by an inside observer... Which might indicate that the edge of their known universe is constantly expanding... Only the observer within that singularity knows the reality of the size (as measured by that observers reality) of the world within that singularity. Quantum thought... If you are a grain of sand on a large beach you could not see the world beyond the beach until you increased your vision beoynd your own small sand box.  "AdventureBegins" Quantum thought or quantum physis can only explains the inter working of the big bang but may not apply or even function beyond the "One Singularity" according to theory the universe is expanding but it could be just a black hole that is expanding within itself constantly collapseing back into the "One Singularity" ...either way it doesn't address the question as where the 'One Singularity" came from Quantum stuff... As I(in my ignorance) understand it leaves open the possibility for both 'realities' to occure at the same time in the same 'place'. (and for many more to also exist simultaneously). What you just did was take my reality and twist it around with a non answer about what 'quantum can only'... slippery devil ain't ya. reguardless of what quantum theroy can and can not see.... My mind is capable of 'seeing' beyond limits... so feel free to continue to place limits upon your reality... I shall continue to see beyond them. |
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No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree? "Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question or you could simply said that "you don't know" Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of? "Krimsa" now you are making excuses... but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ... you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own Huh... 'One singularity'...? In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity... there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium. 'AdventureBegins" ...if your theory was true...The One Singularity would have been confirm to only that space and couldn't have taken place ...since according to the theory the big bang did take place it would have needed room for expansion therefore meaning it's immediate surroundings was not greater than itself to the contrary. Once begin expanding all space contained within the singularity would also expand. We proabally live within a large singularity, which may or may not be contained withing another singularity. An event horizon has two sides. The one seen by an outside observer... Which indicates to that observer that light cannot escape the singularity. But there is also a side of the event horizon which is seen by an inside observer... Which might indicate that the edge of their known universe is constantly expanding... Only the observer within that singularity knows the reality of the size (as measured by that observers reality) of the world within that singularity. Quantum thought... If you are a grain of sand on a large beach you could not see the world beyond the beach until you increased your vision beoynd your own small sand box. "AdventureBegins" Quantum thought or quantum physis can only explains the inter working of the big bang but may not apply or even function beyond the "One Singularity" according to theory the universe is expanding but it could be just a black hole that is expanding within itself constantly collapseing back into the "One Singularity" ...either way it doesn't address the question as where the 'One Singularity" came from Quantum stuff... As I(in my ignorance) understand it leaves open the possibility for both 'realities' to occure at the same time in the same 'place'. (and for many more to also exist simultaneously). What you just did was take my reality and twist it around with a non answer about what 'quantum can only'... slippery devil ain't ya. reguardless of what quantum theroy can and can not see.... My mind is capable of 'seeing' beyond limits... so feel free to continue to place limits upon your reality... I shall continue to see beyond them. "AdventureBegins" ..so explain what your mind see beyond ...all I seen so far is you quoting theory ...isn't that limiting yourself to theory |
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Krimsa
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Shalom Krimsa Myself and MS have a belief that we use as our source. I do not worship or will not accept what MS believes. She asks me questions and i answer and when she does not like my answers she says I have not been born again. This statement in itself shows that she believes she can make my knowledge of no use. Because I do not have the Holy Spirit and the spirit I have is a false one. I am not a chr-stian and never will be again as I once was. The scriptures bare out who or what that religion is and they hate me challenging it. Blessings of Shalom...Miles Well to be fair MS, this is what Miles actually explained his position to be. I can clearly see that you two have a differing fundamental approach to who or what god is. I think it might essentially boil down to your own perceptions and what god represents in your lives. I dont see the point in arguing such differences. I have been to a Pagan spiritual fair in which nearly every designation of religious practitioner tends to make an appearance, even Christian, and none are ever made to feel unwelcome. I guess Im more comfortable with that arrangement but that would be my personal perception just as you have your own. 
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No. Not until you answer one of mine that has been posted on either thread. Fair is fair. Woudnt you agree? "Krimsa"...I knew that question would stump you ...and I know that you can't answer it...that's why I asked it ...because you treat the "One Singularity" as a substitute for God and therefore is taboo to imagine beyond it or answer the question or you could simply said that "you don't know" Well I can simply parrot you. You refuse to answer any of my questions because you cant. You know I ALWAYS have an answer for anything. But I am tempted to withhold, so I can get something straight out of you. Show me what you are made of? "Krimsa" now you are making excuses... but I know you can't answer the question because science has not supplied you with an answer you can parrot ... you are now left to make your own thoughts about where "The One Singularity" came from ...this is one answer you won't find on the internet ..you will have to think on your own Huh... 'One singularity'...? In order to BE a singularity such a thing must be contained in a physical space of some kind... which of course would mean that which is is greater the said singularity... there is allways something greater. big bangs only occure in small spaces... which are part of something larger... Ad infintium. 'AdventureBegins" ...if your theory was true...The One Singularity would have been confirm to only that space and couldn't have taken place ...since according to the theory the big bang did take place it would have needed room for expansion therefore meaning it's immediate surroundings was not greater than itself to the contrary. Once begin expanding all space contained within the singularity would also expand. We proabally live within a large singularity, which may or may not be contained withing another singularity. An event horizon has two sides. The one seen by an outside observer... Which indicates to that observer that light cannot escape the singularity. But there is also a side of the event horizon which is seen by an inside observer... Which might indicate that the edge of their known universe is constantly expanding... Only the observer within that singularity knows the reality of the size (as measured by that observers reality) of the world within that singularity. Quantum thought... If you are a grain of sand on a large beach you could not see the world beyond the beach until you increased your vision beoynd your own small sand box. "AdventureBegins" Quantum thought or quantum physis can only explains the inter working of the big bang but may not apply or even function beyond the "One Singularity" according to theory the universe is expanding but it could be just a black hole that is expanding within itself constantly collapseing back into the "One Singularity" ...either way it doesn't address the question as where the 'One Singularity" came from Quantum stuff... As I(in my ignorance) understand it leaves open the possibility for both 'realities' to occure at the same time in the same 'place'. (and for many more to also exist simultaneously). What you just did was take my reality and twist it around with a non answer about what 'quantum can only'... slippery devil ain't ya. reguardless of what quantum theroy can and can not see.... My mind is capable of 'seeing' beyond limits... so feel free to continue to place limits upon your reality... I shall continue to see beyond them. "AdventureBegins" ..so explain what your mind see beyond ...all I seen so far is you quoting theory ...isn't that limiting yourself to theory Well since you know so much please tell me what you think is INSIDE a singularity. |
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Well since you know so much please tell me what you think is INSIDE a singularity. geez "AdventureBegins" that is too easy ..... isn't all the components which supposely make up the universe inside it ...er..remember it's the big bang |
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Well since you know so much please tell me what you think is INSIDE a singularity. geez "AdventureBegins" that is too easy ..... isn't all the components which supposely make up the universe inside it ...er..remember it's the big bang Big bang? this type of theroy would only be plasuable to someone stuck within the 'bang' and unable to see out. Or stuck in the concept of 'time' and unable to see the begENDing. |
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Well since you know so much please tell me what you think is INSIDE a singularity. geez "AdventureBegins" that is too easy ..... isn't all the components which supposely make up the universe inside it ...er..remember it's the big bang Big bang? this type of theroy would only be plasuable to someone stuck within the 'bang' and unable to see out. Or stuck in the concept of 'time' and unable to see the begENDing. sorry "AdventureBegins" but I didn't give the theory it's name .. also you forgot to mention stuff that you see beyond ..are you sure it's not just you having a fantasy |
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MorningSong
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Funches......the Father, Son, Holy Spirit make up the Godhead. And Funches, the Father gave us His Only Begotten Son Jesus....Who became the perfect sacrificial LAMB( the Lamb of God) for our sins on that cross..bearing our sins...bearing it all....but on the third day Jesus rose from the dead..and Lives!! And Funches, with that sacrifice that Jesus was willing to pay for all our sins( so we would not have to bear them anymore...or pay for them ourselves) on that cross, Jesus won a great Victory!! See Funches....the devil thought he had Jesus..and thought he defeated Jesus and won..but nope... the devil lost....because in that great sacrifice that Jesus paid on that cross for us all .....Jesus now has made a WAY for all mankind to be saved...and brought back into fellowship with the Father....thru accepting what Jesus did on that cross..and believing on Him. (Sin cut us off from that fellowship with God...Jesus is the WAY back to God). Funches...If not for what Jesus did on that cross, we would still be all lost in our sins. But because of what Jesus did..and because He Lives..we have hope for tomorrow..and new life offered us also... that we might also live...forever with God again one day.  And Funches? It's a Free Gift of grace..Jesus already paid the price in full....and not one bit of works on our part , can EARN our way to salvation...cause no works on our part could even close to what Jesus already did for us. To think we have to add works to get saved, would be like saying Jesus did not do enough on that cross. Funches........do you Hear Jesus knocking on your hearts door? Open up...let Him in Funches. Cause when you do,Your life will never be the same. Promise.  "MorningSong" ...if Jesus is God then he was never in any type of danger ..so how can you claim that the devil tempted God if God is all knowing and would know what satan was up to before satan was created jesus as a god would also know that he would live forever as god which means that when Jesus died it was all just a game and he sacrifice nothing Funches....when Jesus stepped down to dwell among us ( born of a virgin in a lowly manger), He left All His Heavenly Glory behind....to become man.. and was tempted just like we were, yet without sin. And because Jesus was without sin , he became the spotless sacrificial lamb for us. Only a sinless person could do that..... and Jesus was that PEFECT SPOTLESS LAMB ,Who took our place and bore our sins on that cross. But Funches, while Jesus walked this earth,he was tempted just like we were/are.....yet He did not sin, but obeyed His Father in heaven. Of course Now, he is back with the Father, and the Father has Given ALL the GLORY NOW TO JESUS, because of what Jesus did for all mankind on that cross. Remember Funches, Jesus always WAS (Jesus is The WORD).... even Before the very Foundations of the World ....... and even spoke the very world into existence... YET He humbled Himself to become born a tiny baby in a manger...born of a virgin..to grow up and live among us, and to weep with us, and to rejoice with us , and to know us and live with us ....in other words, Jesus became man just like us....yet was ALSO GOD WITH US. (Emanuel...God With Us). But Funches, while Jesus Walked on this earth... again.....He stayed In obedience to His Father in heaven... and although he could have called ten thousand angels to get Him off that cross, he didn't.... he stayed.... out of His great Love for us all..... and became the perfect sacrificial LAMB.... without spot or Blemish... to bear the sins of the whole wide world.
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Well since you know so much please tell me what you think is INSIDE a singularity. geez "AdventureBegins" that is too easy ..... isn't all the components which supposely make up the universe inside it ...er..remember it's the big bang Big bang? this type of theroy would only be plasuable to someone stuck within the 'bang' and unable to see out. Or stuck in the concept of 'time' and unable to see the begENDing. sorry "AdventureBegins" but I didn't give the theory it's name .. also you forgot to mention stuff that you see beyond ..are you sure it's not just you having a fantasy Of course I am not sure... that is the beauty of it. Neither are you... and by the way I 'quoted' nothing... all my above posts were my words based on my (admittedly small) understanding... I mostly wanted to see if you would ANSWER anything or just continue sidestepping-by-question any serious statements. |
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http://books.google.com/books?id=Q-BSHWwLLLgC&printsec=toc&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0#PPA14,M1
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Funches....when Jesus stepped down to dwell among us ( born of a virgin in a lowly manger), He left All His Heavenly Glory behind....to become man.. and was tempted just like we were, yet without sin. And because Jesus was without sin , he became the spotless sacrificial lamb for us. Only a sinless person could do that..... and Jesus was that PEFECT SPOTLESS LAMB ,Who took our place and bore our sins on that cross. But Funches, while Jesus walked this earth,he was tempted just like we were/are.....yet He did not sin, but obeyed His Father in heaven. Of course Now, he is back with the Father, and the Father has Given ALL the GLORY NOW TO JESUS, because of what Jesus did for all mankind on that cross. Remember Funches, Jesus always WAS (Jesus is The WORD).... even Before the very Foundations of the World ....... and even spoke the very world into existence... YET He humbled Himself to become born a tiny baby in a manger...born of a virgin..to grow up and live among us, and to weep with us, and to rejoice with us , and to know us and live with us ....in other words, Jesus became man just like us....yet was ALSO GOD WITH US. (Emanuel...God With Us). But Funches, while Jesus Walked on this earth... again.....He stayed In obedience to His Father in heaven... and although he could have called ten thousand angels to get Him off that cross, he didn't.... he stayed.... out of His great Love for us all..... and became the perfect sacrificial LAMB.... without spot or Blemish... to bear the sins of the whole wide world. "MorningSong" Jesus had to be with sin since he was borned from a woman that was married but was not married to his father ..God those Moses to stone others that engaged into that type of behavior |
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Well since you know so much please tell me what you think is INSIDE a singularity. geez "AdventureBegins" that is too easy ..... isn't all the components which supposely make up the universe inside it ...er..remember it's the big bang Big bang? this type of theroy would only be plasuable to someone stuck within the 'bang' and unable to see out. Or stuck in the concept of 'time' and unable to see the begENDing. sorry "AdventureBegins" but I didn't give the theory it's name .. also you forgot to mention stuff that you see beyond ..are you sure it's not just you having a fantasy Of course I am not sure... that is the beauty of it. Neither are you... and by the way I 'quoted' nothing... all my above posts were my words based on my (admittedly small) understanding... I mostly wanted to see if you would ANSWER anything or just continue sidestepping-by-question any serious statements. "AdventureBegins" how did I side stepped your question? ..you limited your answer to Quantum theory ...Quantum theory is supposely how the substance that drives the laws of "The One Singularity" ..but is no indication it drives that beyond the 'One Singularity" .... you also asked what's in the one singularity ..and i said the components that makes up the universe ..isn't that logical so please don't become part of the mass hysteria about I don't answer questions |
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"MorningSong" Jesus had to be with sin since he was borned from a woman that was married but was not married to his father ..God those Moses to stone others that engaged into that type of behavior Really? So if a man married a widow, she had to be stoned? I don't think so, I'm pretty sure you have that wrong. Just for the record, if a young lady were promised to a young man, it was adultery for them to have sex with another person. Since Mary was a virgin until after her marriage, she didn't commit adultery. |
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Funches is prone to serial inaccuracies.....
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"MorningSong" Jesus had to be with sin since he was borned from a woman that was married but was not married to his father ..God those Moses to stone others that engaged into that type of behavior Really? So if a man married a widow, she had to be stoned? I don't think so, I'm pretty sure you have that wrong. Just for the record, if a young lady were promised to a young man, it was adultery for them to have sex with another person. Since Mary was a virgin until after her marriage, she didn't commit adultery. "Spidercmb" Mary was married when God impregnanted her so it's no getting around it..God committed adultry with her..and since Jesus is supposely God makes Jesus his own father ...geez it's like a Jerry Springer episode ...but anyway Jesus was clearly born in sin |
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"MorningSong" Jesus had to be with sin since he was borned from a woman that was married but was not married to his father ..God those Moses to stone others that engaged into that type of behavior Really? So if a man married a widow, she had to be stoned? I don't think so, I'm pretty sure you have that wrong. Just for the record, if a young lady were promised to a young man, it was adultery for them to have sex with another person. Since Mary was a virgin until after her marriage, she didn't commit adultery. "Spidercmb" Mary was married when God impregnanted her so it's no getting around it..God committed adultry with her..and since Jesus is supposely God makes Jesus his own father ...geez it's like a Jerry Springer episode ...but anyway Jesus was clearly born in sin God didnt knock her up! That holy spirit thing did! Well either that or a Roman centurion but who's keeping score. |
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Funches is prone to serial inaccuracies..... "Krimsa" your just sour grapes because you can't answer where the "One Singularity" came from and now has resorting to taking cheap shots at me let me guess..I bet you tried your hardest to search the internet for an answer..but you won't find one ...sorry but you have now been neutralized |
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Funches is prone to serial inaccuracies..... "Krimsa" your just sour grapes because you can't answer where the "One Singularity" came from and now has resorting to taking cheap shots at me let me guess..I bet you tried your hardest to search the internet for an answer..but you won't find one ...sorry but you have now been neutralized Nope. I stopped answering because you have yet to answer one question I have asked on two of your threads now. When have you known me to honestly not have an answer for something?
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"MorningSong" Jesus had to be with sin since he was borned from a woman that was married but was not married to his father ..God those Moses to stone others that engaged into that type of behavior Really? So if a man married a widow, she had to be stoned? I don't think so, I'm pretty sure you have that wrong. Just for the record, if a young lady were promised to a young man, it was adultery for them to have sex with another person. Since Mary was a virgin until after her marriage, she didn't commit adultery. "Spidercmb" Mary was married when God impregnanted her so it's no getting around it..God committed adultry with her..and since Jesus is supposely God makes Jesus his own father ...geez it's like a Jerry Springer episode ...but anyway Jesus was clearly born in sin God didnt knock her up! That holy spirit thing did! Well either that or a Roman centurion but who's keeping score. the holy spirit i guess is the part of God that he use to have sex..humans refer to that part as something else..but either way according to christians one of those trinty gods had sex with her also "Krimsa" who is the roman centurion you keep referring to ... |
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"MorningSong" Jesus had to be with sin since he was borned from a woman that was married but was not married to his father ..God those Moses to stone others that engaged into that type of behavior Really? So if a man married a widow, she had to be stoned? I don't think so, I'm pretty sure you have that wrong. Just for the record, if a young lady were promised to a young man, it was adultery for them to have sex with another person. Since Mary was a virgin until after her marriage, she didn't commit adultery. "Spidercmb" Mary was married when God impregnanted her so it's no getting around it..God committed adultry with her..and since Jesus is supposely God makes Jesus his own father ...geez it's like a Jerry Springer episode ...but anyway Jesus was clearly born in sin God didn't have sex with Mary, so no adultery. Adultery is about sex, not pregnancy. If your wildly inaccurate interpretation of the term were used, then In Vitro fertilization and artificial insemination would be grounds for divorce. Mary didn't marry Joseph until after Mary became pregnant with Jesus. When she became pregnant with Jesus, Mary was a virgin (Luke 1:34), would you have us believe that Mary and Joseph were married, but decided to forego the wedding night? No, they were not married and did not get married until some time after Mary returned from her cousin's house. |
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