What would that include?

if would include you to stop beating around the bush and just give the freaking evidence

Would "seeing my body from six feet away" meet your requirements?

I think funches wants you to prove it to HIM not to yourself. He will just tell you that you are delusional.

JB

That was pretty obvious from the start. I'm just playing along now to see how he's going to spin this one.

people do that in dreams

They also do it during OBEs, so what's your point?

why do people always try to blame me because they have no evidence

I asked for evidence that shows what you may have experience was more than just a dream

Ok, you've implied that what I gave you was not sufficient evidence. So let me ask you the complementary question: Can you present any evidence that it was just a dream?

it's not up to me to prove or disprove if you are having a delusion..I just ask if you have any evidence that may indicate that you wasn't having a delusion ..

Because you don't follow a logical train of thought, you don't pay any attention to what people say, and you don't answer direct questions.

I could go on if you're really interested.

And it's not up to me to prove or disprove that I was having an OBE. I just asked if you had any evidence that I was having a dream.

"Skyhook" now you're trying to play Dr. Phil instead of giving simple evidence that if was more than a dream ..if you can't just admit it

so far you been providing that evidence yourself

Wrong again my friend.

"Skyhook" next time you leave out your body try and make it a point to get some evidence ..and make sure you're not asleep ...

No. I have no reason to do either one of those things.

of course you have no reason to do either because that would pop you out of you little fantasy of being God ..

do you wish to know why? ..since you tried to play Dr. Phil with me I will return the favor

it's called "Trinity Syndrome" you are the son your projected self is the father and the "new unknown knowledge" that bridge you two entities constitutes the holy spirit ..but unfortunely since you can't provide any new unknown knowledge indicates that your out of body experience as being nothing more than conscious induced R.E.M. sleep ..

it's an acute condition that usually effects those of the "New Age" aka "Scientology" faith that choose to keep the God but dump the religion and replace the religion with their own moral standards thereby placing themselves into the role of God

and that "Skyhook" is why you are unable to provide any evidence beyond you having a delusion

After reading through the posts, I think there is general disagreement/misunderstanding about what an out of body experience is and the capabilities of an individual while in the OBE state. I believe this has lead to much of the tension between posters here.

Being in the OBE state doesn't always mean you are hanging around on the same plane of existence as everyone else. Certainly that is possible but doesn't occur all the time. The idea of viewing someone, or something, else or what they are doing is called remote viewing and is very different than having an out of body experience.

The idea behind remote viewing is to provide objective, verifiable information about the target. This is more difficult than it sounds and takes a lot of training and practice. There is a lot of information and books out there on this subject so I suggest looking into those if this is something that interests you. I suggest looking into an individual by the name of Joseph McMoneagle.

Going back to out of body experiences, these are something you have to experience for yourself as no one else can prove it for you. This is similar to someone asking you to prove you love someone--you can't prove it, it is just something that you know, feel, and experience.

Is it possible that people claiming to have an OBE are just dreaming or hallucinating, sure it is. By the same token though, it is also equally possible that they are _not_ dreaming or hallucinating. The only way to know for sure is to experience it for yourself. You can read about it, debate it, believe or not believe, but ultimately none of that matters until you experience it for yourself--then you will know.