I never questioned your reality, only your logic.



What offends me is this illogic: you would accept ONE test (the one you stipulated earlier) as proof (or so you implied), but by your own words, you completely reject all 650 tests done by one of the most prestigous universities in the world. That comes across to me as conceit in the extreme.

You can question my logic, and i can question yours also, but you threw in an attempted insult and all we are doing is disagreeing with eachother? I say attempted because i cant be offended by an opinion i dont care for.

However, if you dont like what i say or the way i say it you should just ignore me. Because two could play that insult game, but it doesnt really suit these serious discussions does it? If you wanna give me some crap come find me in a joke thread and we'll see what you have got. Otherwise be a little more respectful.

I am done arguing the topic so, assuming you dont attempt to insult me again, i am done with this thread.

The insults were not entirely one-sided. I apologized for mine at one point, but you continued. Good-bye.

See ya big boy

Yet the sarcasm continues.

and that's the point "Skyhook".. when doing research all resonable possibilites must be pursued or what's the point

that you can provide no evidence beyond that of anyone having an dream must be regarded as one of those possible options ..if not then what's the difference from what you claimed to have had experienced then someone that just woke up from a dream making the same claim



that only indicates that Princeton does accurate research but doesn't mean they discovered anything significant from that research.. if you believe Princeton did discover something significant then can you give a brief synopsis of what "new unknown knowledge" was learned from the research .."brief synopsis" means please no "google cut and paste"...er..please

Na, he's clearly flirting with you.

Sarcasm? I just think you are HAWT thats all.

You just want the last word dont ya?

go on then, you have it, i promise i wont reply to you again (Well i might ask you in private for your phone number).

Thanks

I am not, nor did I ever claim to be, doing research. So that is not applicable. You are free to decide whatever you want the point to be.


I have no objection to you regarding it as one of those possible options.


I have no experience with "someone that just woke up from a dream making the same claim". So I cannot tell you what the difference is because I have no basis for comparison.


I do believe they discovered something significant and yes I can give a brief synopsis.

I believe (OBE)they are real and usually somewhat similar to others experiences around the world. I drowned for several minutes as a child and 5 family members witnessed my temporary death and can confirm that everything I saw and heard while dead was true and factual. But I've told my story before. Funches thinks I'm delusional. Oh well!

Thanks for giving us more evidence for OBE/RV. Keep the faith!

"Skyhook" ..it wasn't based on any decision it was you that simple didn't have any evidence


why would you have any objections that your experience was anything more than a dream since it was the only possible option that you yourself presented because you had no evidence to show otherwise so any objection on your part wouldn't have made much sense


well "Skyhook" maybe it hasn't dawn upon you yet but all dreams are out of body experiences ..or how else could you see yourself in them


well why haven't you presented it ..I can't wait to read it because surely your synopsis regarding the Princton research on out of body experiences will contain some "new unknown knowledge" and not just the same old same old blab blab blab that you presented so far

Since you do not accept the first-hand accounts given in this forum as evidence, I see no reason to spend the time to create a synopsis that would be nothing more than third-hand evidence.

I prefer to just accept that neither of us can prove our viewpoint to the other, and let it go at that.

"Skyhook" ..er....I pretty sure those smart people at Princton asked the same questions that I asked you ..so why you keep getting offensive and trying to make your lack of evidence like it was something that I did ..because let's face it when you came out of your body and saw yourself did I show up and intervene and stop you or your otherself from getting any evidence ...

all I asked was if you had any evidence other than your out of body experience being anything more than a delusion ...so a simple "no" would have suffice without all the deceptive tactics you kept using even to include Princton Research in an attempt to give what you say some form of legitamacy ..

and that is why I asked you for a brief synopsis about the Princton research so that you could atleast provide the "new unknown knowledge" they may have obtain ...but now I once again find you making up excuses why you can't provide that

Thank you!
My OBE was a very profound experience floating upwards into the bright light but still able to see without my body (or eyes)as I saw it laying lifeless on the bottom of the lake. No one could hear me telling them I wasn't really dead. I:smiles: could see and hear them though.

but my little Georgian peach cobbler ..I wasn't going to tell anyone that you were delusional

Poor funches...... is it a lonely place where you are?

My reality is your delusion....your reality is my illusion...

Sweet dreams big fella..

sweet dreams? ...well 'Jess" ..don't you mean sweet "out of body experience"? ...since no one in the forum has yet to provide any evidence to suggest there is any difference between the two

There is a difference. In a dream, your mind creates an environment which you can call a "dream world."

An "Out of body" experience is basically a "dream" where the dreamer failed to create a dreamworld and the dream body (the astral body) ends up in the physical world or the astral counterpart of the physical world.

Everybody dreams, so everybody has out of body experiences. They just sometimes get out of their dream worlds and end up in the real mateial worlds.