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My only confusion is the same since I started in this religion forum. If the atheist, non-christian, pantheist or whatever you want to call it have reached such level of enlightment to render christianity and christians delusional why they feel so threatened? Well Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for eons. They are threatening to have a horrific mother of all wars over the Middle East. I think atheists, non-christians, and pantheists have every right to ask them to stop it. It's our planet too! 
We live here. 
Exactly. The majority of evangelic Christians support and incite WAR and joyfully look forward to Armageddon because they mistakenly believe that their Lord and savior is coming back to smite all of their enemies and take them to paradise. In believing this, they do nothing for peace. They actually incite wars because of their beliefs. Onward Christian soldiers...etc. Yes, I say stop! Stop trying so hard to fulfill some false Bible prophecy. We want to live on a peaceful earth. We just want to get along. We want to love our enemy like you said Jesus said we should. What happened to that guys? Huh? JB |
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Agenda? I have no "agenda."
This is a religion board. I didn't create it but I come here to share my faith. That's all. I'm glad you're admitting that you come from a hostile attitude toward Christianity & people of THAT faith. |
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See, in my experience, discussions about religion never go well in a mixed religion group. We are, by nature of faith, very unlikely to give up any ground on our own religion, and will often find ourselves conflicting with those of another religion.
The christians will always dislike the atheists, the pantheists, the pagans and whatever, and the atheists always seem to have a rabid need to tear apart any religion they can get theirs hands on. You're basically going to always end up with an argument, instead of a peaceful sharing of views |
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I won't answer your question in parts... I'll just state it simply. What's my agenda? Oh, I'm just here to start an arguement. I've argued both for and against my own religion on these threads. Why do I do it? Well, the religion threads are the only ones in which I am able to post and still have my ramblings read. This thread draws a person back because someone will take offense to something you said, and you will have to defend yourself. It's easier to start a debate here than in the politics section. I've said it before, and I'll say it now: I'm just poking the bear with a stick. If I'm lucky, something I say may have a profound affect on someone, but I rarely say anything worth discussion, and even rarer is something profound (profane sure, profound nope). Nope not deep here, just glad to have someone to talk too. Well I disgree with everything you've said here. I think dust bunnies are only pink when they're in heat and the rest of the time they're baby blue. I also believe that it's not wise to poke a bear with a stick. If you're going to poke a bear you should use a very long pole and only do it whilst standing on the shoulders of an African gorilla that has been pacified with bananas from Jamaica and is wearing the earphones of a Sony Walkman that's playing "My Sweet Lord". And even then you're putting your soul on the line, but that's your problem and not mine because I've been saved by the pigmy bats of Bavidirian and now I can safely ride on the backs of polar bears across ice fields in Smiless fairytales with icing on top. I stongly suggest that you too convert to Smiless' way of thinking cuz if you don't you might be sent to the politics forums for the rest of cyberternity. And no amount of repentance will free you from your cyber fate. RO RO RO your BOat. 
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My only confusion is the same since I started in this religion forum. If the atheist, non-christian, pantheist or whatever you want to call it have reached such level of enlightment to render christianity and christians delusional why they feel so threatened? Well Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for eons. They are threatening to have a horrific mother of all wars over the Middle East. I think atheists, non-christians, and pantheists have every right to ask them to stop it. It's our planet too!
We live here.
Exactly. The majority of evangelic Christians support and incite WAR and joyfully look forward to Armageddon because they mistakenly believe that their Lord and savior is coming back to smite all of their enemies and take them to paradise. In believing this, they do nothing for peace. They actually incite wars because of their beliefs. Onward Christian soldiers...etc. Yes, I say stop! Stop trying so hard to fulfill some false Bible prophecy. We want to live on a peaceful earth. We just want to get along. We want to love our enemy like you said Jesus said we should. What happened to that guys? Huh? JB I'm not evangelical. Thanks God.
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Jeanniebean
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Mon 08/11/08 03:42 PM
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Q.S. stated: Agenda? I have no "agenda." This is a religion board. I didn't create it but I come here to share my faith. That's all. I'm glad you're admitting that you come from a hostile attitude toward Christianity & people of THAT faith. At least Red is being honest. You say you have no agenda. If that were true, then you did not need to post anything at all in this thread. (Unless your agenda is to proclaim your innocence of any agenda. Hmmmmm...  )
Okay then, what was your agenda for this post? Have you shared your faith? I have not seen you share your faith. You share your opinions not your faith. ***** (This interrogation has been brought to you by the High Priestess of the Universal Live Church of Brutal Truth and honesty.) JB |
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My new agenda will you join me?
To heal my heart and drown my woe Rain may fall and wind may blow But there still be many miles to go Sweet is the sound of the pouring rain And the stream that falls from hill to plain Better than rain or rippling brook Is a mug of beer inside this Took What difference do it make in this throw down when everyone proves or disaprove with a frown So let us drop our swords and make peace and not argue for we are all the same please May we believe what we will and keep it at that eat many cakes, cookies, and muffins and get fat Enjoy the time that is given to you because there are many things we could do then sit at a computer preaching and teaching for example feasting with a love one and speaking the good times are here to stay so make love today okay!
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My new agenda will you join me? To heal my heart and drown my woe Rain may fall and wind may blow But there still be many miles to go Sweet is the sound of the pouring rain And the stream that falls from hill to plain Better than rain or rippling brook Is a mug of beer inside this Took What difference do it make in this throw down when everyone proves or disaprove with a frown So let us drop our swords and make peace and not argue for we are all the same please May we believe what we will and keep it at that eat many cakes, cookies, and muffins and get fat Enjoy the time that is given to you because there are many things we could do then sit at a computer preaching and teaching for example feasting with a love one and speaking the good times are here to stay so make love today okay!
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I won't answer your question in parts... I'll just state it simply. What's my agenda? Oh, I'm just here to start an arguement. I've argued both for and against my own religion on these threads. Why do I do it? Well, the religion threads are the only ones in which I am able to post and still have my ramblings read. This thread draws a person back because someone will take offense to something you said, and you will have to defend yourself. It's easier to start a debate here than in the politics section. I've said it before, and I'll say it now: I'm just poking the bear with a stick. If I'm lucky, something I say may have a profound affect on someone, but I rarely say anything worth discussion, and even rarer is something profound (profane sure, profound nope). Nope not deep here, just glad to have someone to talk too. Well I disgree with everything you've said here. I think dust bunnies are only pink when they're in heat and the rest of the time they're baby blue. I also believe that it's not wise to poke a bear with a stick. If you're going to poke a bear you should use a very long pole and only do it whilst standing on the shoulders of an African gorilla that has been pacified with bananas from Jamaica and is wearing the earphones of a Sony Walkman that's playing "My Sweet Lord". And even then you're putting your soul on the line, but that's your problem and not mine because I've been saved by the pigmy bats of Bavidirian and now I can safely ride on the backs of polar bears across ice fields in Smiless fairytales with icing on top. I stongly suggest that you too convert to Smiless' way of thinking cuz if you don't you might be sent to the politics forums for the rest of cyberternity. And no amount of repentance will free you from your cyber fate. RO RO RO your BOat.
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My only confusion is the same since I started in this religion forum. If the atheist, non-christian, pantheist or whatever you want to call it have reached such level of enlightment to render christianity and christians delusional why they feel so threatened? Well Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for eons. They are threatening to have a horrific mother of all wars over the Middle East. I think atheists, non-christians, and pantheists have every right to ask them to stop it. It's our planet too!
We live here.
Exactly. The majority of evangelic Christians support and incite WAR and joyfully look forward to Armageddon because they mistakenly believe that their Lord and savior is coming back to smite all of their enemies and take them to paradise. In believing this, they do nothing for peace. They actually incite wars because of their beliefs. Onward Christian soldiers...etc. Yes, I say stop! Stop trying so hard to fulfill some false Bible prophecy. We want to live on a peaceful earth. We just want to get along. We want to love our enemy like you said Jesus said we should. What happened to that guys? Huh? JB |
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JB One of the problems I see in Christianity or any religion is that when it fails a person miserably they are said to have "lost faith" and then their rebellion results in what some call "atheist."
Your are quite right and that’s unfortunate for two reasons. One, because the person who has been wounded will often rebel not only against what made her/him ill but also against the possible cure. The second reason is that we all know these people exist and it reflects badly on those who have chosen their atheism after a long conscious battle. It’s often difficult for believers to fathom that atheism is even possible. Like you, I turned to myself, not to find the answers I was seeking, but to find the answers that would help me understand those around me and myself. |
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Wouldee
Agendas are always an excellent example of closed mindedness.
I don’t suppose I can make a logical argument against that. Actually the reason I posted “my agenda” stemmed from a recently VERY ACTIVE thread. I got to thinking about WHY people, and I’m sorry to say it, but specifically Christians, simply can not speak their personal beliefs and without prosthylizing, and on the other hand why so many feel the need to try to make them admit their believes are not logical, including myself. Now I do believe that sometimes we really are just debating and if done well, it can be quite insightful. But more often than not it seems that some pre-programmed agenda takes hold and we simply must argue our points until one is backed in the corner of indignance. So somewhat frustrated with those who would argue from the point of view that they can not ever be wrong, I began to question what possible agendas everyone could have, including myself. This is what I came up with, and so I posted it. You see, I’m one of those people others trust to be fair and fair-minded. The reason is not always a beneficial attribute to live with, but it’s one I’m stuck with. With that in mind it makes is easier to understand why my agenda would be to make sure that everyone is totally informed before, and totally in agreement with, whatever decision they make, in choosing a religion. |
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How do you get along with a Christian on a religious forum without agreeing with them that Jesus is God and that the Bible is the only true word of God? As soon as you suggest anything else, they're all over you for rejecting God, being a lost soul, and bashing their religion.
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openwounds
can't say i tropp out looking to convert people, that's not my way. I do, however, like to remind people that there are still Pagans out there, and we're just as valid as any other religion
Absolutely - not about your beliefs, of course,  (being funny) but about your individuality and your equality in seeking it. Keep reminding us, we don't see you near enough.
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Redy. Plain wrappers are better than fancy ones. the gift inside is made all the more delightful when not enhanced before it is unwrapped. LOL Agendas are always an excellent example of closed mindedness. Establishing the goal, excuting its manifestation and rationalizing its adequacy deepens the quest to justify every intent and willful brick building that house. agendas or not, this forum is a city, not a refuge. all agendas change nothing, it is still many little houses decorated s they are standing among all others and still, only a city from the outside looking in. Might be appealing at first glance from over the distant hills. might even conjure up a response that home has been found. The promised land is in sight. LOL Let's go down and seize it. LOL Nothing is going to change here, not by much. Rather, it depends more on which neighbors abandon their place first and relinguish their stake to the remainder and their backslappers. LOL Is that success? Is that what an agenda delivers? LOL CAlifornians humor me to no end. You and I are both such. We both know the Bay Area. So, follow me, redy...... Gas may be cheaper across the street at Rotten Robbie's, but still, many will go the Chevron station and pay more for their ges and for their coke and for their snack. LOL But if it is only water at the well that is sought, then why do not all drink, if in fact water can be only water? Same tap delivering it, and same water from the same source, but yet the water is better at the Chevron? Only the better class believes that. LOL I can lead you to water, but you must drink, and only if you choose. Likewise, redy. It goes both ways. LOL AGENDAS, indeed. Let's choose sides LOL 1)Science and learning and all according to the pursuit of the better mousetrap and the louder whistle and the wittiest invention do distract but for only the best and the brightest. Go team, Go!!!!!!!!!! LOL 2)Jesus and his living word and his righteousness applauded do also encourage and inspire those so enamored and the Holy Spirit is the gift that only the Christian need as proof that Jesus is the best God has to offer. And to that end, the best and the brightest are apprehended of, lest they slip. Go team Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I have tipped my hand , haven't I? LOL I gave one team more exclamation points. I am so unfair. LOL I must have an agenda! LOL 
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RoamingO
What's my agenda? Oh, I'm just here to start an arguement. I've argued both for and against my own religion on these threads.
Why do I do it? Well, the religion threads are the only ones in which I am able to post and still have my ramblings read. This thread draws a person back because someone will take offense to something you said, and you will have to defend yourself. It's easier to start a debate here than in the politics section. I've said it before, and I'll say it now: I'm just poking the bear with a stick. this whole thread was a set up, just to get you to admit that. I knew we could do it.  just kiddin
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My only confusion is the same since I started in this religion forum. If the atheist, non-christian, pantheist or whatever you want to call it have reached such level of enlightment to render christianity and christians delusional why they feel so threatened? Well Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for eons. They are threatening to have a horrific mother of all wars over the Middle East. I think atheists, non-christians, and pantheists have every right to ask them to stop it. It's our planet too!
We live here.
This sounds like a bigot to me. I'm so glad that you admit your hate since you're usually blaming Christians of hate. |
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Q.S. stated: Agenda? I have no "agenda." This is a religion board. I didn't create it but I come here to share my faith. That's all. I'm glad you're admitting that you come from a hostile attitude toward Christianity & people of THAT faith. At least Red is being honest. You say you have no agenda. If that were true, then you did not need to post anything at all in this thread. (Unless your agenda is to proclaim your innocence of any agenda. Hmmmmm... )
Okay then, what was your agenda for this post? Have you shared your faith? I have not seen you share your faith. You share your opinions not your faith. ***** (This interrogation has been brought to you by the High Priestess of the Universal Live Church of Brutal Truth and honesty.) JB More like... Brutal ignorance...yours 
Stop twisting what you think I'm saying. OOPS! Don't look now but your hate is showing.
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TLW
My only confusion is the same since I started in this religion forum.
If the atheist, non-christian, pantheist or whatever you want to call it have reached such level of enlightment to render christianity and christians delusional why they feel so threatened? I mean a new ager can come to me and start talking about aliens, karma, tarot reading, and I don't know what other kind of things that for me are an absolute non-sense. I can hear this person, I can find his/her points very amusing, but that's it. I don't need to feel paranoic. I see some atheists who just feel because a christian call them "son of evil" (which is just wrong) they freak out. I don't support the use of the Bible to judge others. However, if the one who calls me "son of evil" is a delusional to me. wel his/her statements must be very funny and amusing to me. You make some good point, one of them is against you. First let me say, you are correct, often times people feel offended and react before they think about it. But remember what they are reacting to is a very RUDE and JUDGMENTAL comment, not the idea. From there the discussion escalates to that of the headstrong trying to prove to each other who is right. But we all hold to some belief, even if it just the belief that your belief is rediculous. As you just stated, you find litte redeeming quality in a new ager view point. But how often we listen and and sincere questions, without ever trying to change their mind? We are all at fault, not because we don't manners, but because what we believe often comes out of our mouths before we consider what we are saying and to whom we are speaking. |
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Let us agree to disagree
as we disagree to agree and shall we see who is really me as time goes by wondering why woman dress up and men put on ties we walk and then we talk as some talk before they walk some believe in much as others not at all some just have a crush and just fall one season may make a great change I give you a kiss but your our out of range in the long run god teaches one thing for sure and that is love and peace and that is your cure so whatever religous misses just enjoy god himself enjoy the delicious kisses and live a great health May you continue to agree to disagree and to disagree to agree but know this for sure that god can be your cure if you believe in your own ways that is for sure
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