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Edited by
Fanta46
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1. greed 2. envy 3. fear 4. money 5. power 6. prejudice 7. ignorance 8. intolerance 9. indoctrination 10. irrational exhuberance 1.- He's a prince, 2.- He's a Prince, 3.-of what? He's a prince, 4.-LOL, He's a Prince, 5.-  He,s a Prince, 6.-Maybe, but I doubt it, He welcomed Western Mercenaries during the Soviet occupation. 7.-Hes very intelligent, militarily he's considered a Genius, 8.-Now or before he was double crossed? He welcomed Western Mercenaries during the Soviet occupation. 9.-Hmmmmm, hmmmmm, 10.-He is this! He's very exuberant about getting revenge and ridding the ME of American control! In my opinion and many experts this list make no sense at all! Education, Bin Laden studied economics and business administration at King Abdulaziz University. Some reports suggest bin Laden earned a degree in civil engineering in 1979, or a degree in public administration in 1981. There exists a man who interviewed Bin Laden and wrote a book about his life. "Osama bin Laden I Know" is the title of the book. He doesnt mention anything on this list. The reasons he tells in his book come straight from Bin Laden and the men who know him best! There is an NPR interview with this man! His name is Peter Bergen. Anyone interested can read the transcripts of the interview at, http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=5151657 |
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Good day my intelligent politicians of the future! Can someone tell me "EXACTLY" why Osama Bin Laden hates Americans or the American Government? Could it be? because of a old family grudge between Bush and the Ladens about oil? because of the lifestyle Americans live - if so then why did he allow the CIA to train his men to fight Russians at the time? because Osama Bin Laden's family didn't allow his men to fight Saddam Hussein when Saddam was trying to reclaim the lands that he felt belonged to Iraq. because American troops were on holy soil "Saudi Arabia"? because of religion? because of economics? because he never is truly responsible for the 9/11 attacks as "conspiracies say". because of Israel influence through powerful jewish lobbyists? I mean there has to be a reason why this man has a grudge for Americans? One cannot just act on violence without reason? Or can they? Thank you for taking the time to answer this to the best of your knowledge.  I suggest you go to the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan, hike up and down the mountains and into the caves here and there, and when you find Mr. Bin Laden, ask him yourself! You are asking people who never heard of the man, people who never gave a damn about what is going on in the mid East or any other foreign country, to read the mind of a scewered terrorist as to WHY he hates America??????????????? Or WHY he just hates period?  Lindyy |
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Enjoy the read. I have to go!
Peace and truth to you all! 
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The only difference between OBama and OSama is just a little BS  There ya go......some dumb **** Dumb? But very TRUE! Lindyy |
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 Wheres Quickstepper?? She'll say something funny 4-sure What she has to say is definitely not funny. But I will probably laugh at it anyway. me2 Knock it off Mirror. You are not that great of a speaker yourself. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Remember that one? Lindyy |
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Short Version:
Osama essentially got to the holy war on US idea when it was the US that Saudi Arabia came to during the first Gulf War. When Kuwait was invaded the Saudi royal family feared that Saddam might not stop for they were pushing closer and closer to the border of Saudi Arabia through Kuwait. Osama came to Saudi Arabia offering his assistance, for the right price and approval of the Saudi royal family, to assemble his own personal army and defend them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia declined and went to the US instead. This extremely ticked him off, his ego trip, and he created vast problems following for both Saudi Arabia and the US. |
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education in one discipline has nothing to do with
profound ignorance in another. you can be the world's best suicide belt builder and know absolutely nothing about how to live in peace and harmony with your neighbors. i stand by the list. individual grievances are merely manifestations of one element or another on the list. 
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Wheres Quickstepper?? She'll say something funny 4-sure What she has to say is definitely not funny. But I will probably laugh at it anyway. me2 .. or Lindyy will come in and say something about you being irreverent and refer it to some inane biblical quotation |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Fri 07/11/08 09:56 AM
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Short Version: Osama essentially got to the holy war on US idea when it was the US that Saudi Arabia came to during the first Gulf War. When Kuwait was invaded the Saudi royal family feared that Saddam might not stop for they were pushing closer and closer to the border of Saudi Arabia through Kuwait. Osama came to Saudi Arabia offering his assistance, for the right price and approval of the Saudi royal family, to assemble his own personal army and defend them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia declined and went to the US instead. This extremely ticked him off, his ego trip, and he created vast problems following for both Saudi Arabia and the US. power, greed, intolerance...etc... but yeah - US interference in Muslim affairs... how humiliating! |
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Wheres Quickstepper?? She'll say something funny 4-sure What she has to say is definitely not funny. But I will probably laugh at it anyway. me2 .. or Lindyy will come in and say something about you being irreverent and refer it to some inane biblical quotation Knock it off Mirror. You are not that great of a speaker yourself. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Remember that one? Lindyy DAMN!! Im good!!!
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Short Version: Osama essentially got to the holy war on US idea when it was the US that Saudi Arabia came to during the first Gulf War. When Kuwait was invaded the Saudi royal family feared that Saddam might not stop for they were pushing closer and closer to the border of Saudi Arabia through Kuwait. Osama came to Saudi Arabia offering his assistance, for the right price and approval of the Saudi royal family, to assemble his own personal army and defend them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia declined and went to the US instead. This extremely ticked him off, his ego trip, and he created vast problems following for both Saudi Arabia and the US. power, greed, intolerance...etc... Pretty much, Osama wasn't even the real hero of the Russian defeat in Afghanistan. The rich and highly educated Osama took all credit for the successes that were actually Ahmed Shah Massoud, the Northern Alliance leader who was tracking Osama in Afghanistan for us prior to 9/11. Mossoud HATED Osama with a passion for what he did to him and according to him Osama was a horrible field commander, as is evident by the very poor battlefield training of al Qaeda. |
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but he has a degree from King Abdulaziz University
Cumma Sum Lawdy!
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education in one discipline has nothing to do with profound ignorance in another. you can be the world's best suicide belt builder and know absolutely nothing about how to live in peace and harmony with your neighbors. i stand by the list. individual grievances are merely manifestations of one element or another on the list. Why not assume when the information from someone who has first hand knowledge and has personally interviewed him available! No need to read what he says right? What a waste of time that would be! LOL, I believe I'll accept real knowledge and a first hand account, thank you very much!
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Short Version: Osama essentially got to the holy war on US idea when it was the US that Saudi Arabia came to during the first Gulf War. When Kuwait was invaded the Saudi royal family feared that Saddam might not stop for they were pushing closer and closer to the border of Saudi Arabia through Kuwait. Osama came to Saudi Arabia offering his assistance, for the right price and approval of the Saudi royal family, to assemble his own personal army and defend them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia declined and went to the US instead. This extremely ticked him off, his ego trip, and he created vast problems following for both Saudi Arabia and the US. power, greed, intolerance...etc... Pretty much, Osama wasn't even the real hero of the Russian defeat in Afghanistan. The rich and highly educated Osama took all credit for the successes that were actually Ahmed Shah Massoud, the Northern Alliance leader who was tracking Osama in Afghanistan for us prior to 9/11. Mossoud HATED Osama with a passion for what he did to him and according to him Osama was a horrible field commander, as is evident by the very poor battlefield training of al Qaeda. Again with the no real knowledge gang!! Try again! |
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Its a waste of time to listen to someone unwilling to learn.
And y'all call Bin Laden ignorant!!
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Edited by
Starsailor2851
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Fri 07/11/08 10:13 AM
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Short Version: Osama essentially got to the holy war on US idea when it was the US that Saudi Arabia came to during the first Gulf War. When Kuwait was invaded the Saudi royal family feared that Saddam might not stop for they were pushing closer and closer to the border of Saudi Arabia through Kuwait. Osama came to Saudi Arabia offering his assistance, for the right price and approval of the Saudi royal family, to assemble his own personal army and defend them from Iraq. Saudi Arabia declined and went to the US instead. This extremely ticked him off, his ego trip, and he created vast problems following for both Saudi Arabia and the US. power, greed, intolerance...etc... Pretty much, Osama wasn't even the real hero of the Russian defeat in Afghanistan. The rich and highly educated Osama took all credit for the successes that were actually Ahmed Shah Massoud, the Northern Alliance leader who was tracking Osama in Afghanistan for us prior to 9/11. Mossoud HATED Osama with a passion for what he did to him and according to him Osama was a horrible field commander, as is evident by the very poor battlefield training of al Qaeda. Again with the no real knowledge gang!! Try again! Prove me wrong. |
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read it. did not change my viewpoint.
 bin laden of course has never been known to spin anything. he's a straight shooter!
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but, if you want to go straight to the horse's mouth
so to speak...here you go - broadcast on Al-Jazeera... just after 911... "As Reported by USATODAY.com on Sunday, October 7, 2001 - Updated 05:29 PM EDT © Associated Press Text of Osama bin Laden's taped remarks, aired on an Arab television station after the U.S. and British strikes Sunday. The remarks, which refer to the Sept. 11 terror attacks on New York and Washington, appear to have been made before Sunday's strikes. The text is translated from the Arabic. - USATODAY.com I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that Mohammad is his messenger. There is America, hit by God in one of its softest spots. Its greatest buildings were destroyed, thank God for that. There is America, full of fear from its north to its south, from its west to its east. Thank God for that. What America is tasting now is something insignificant compared to what we have tasted for scores of years. Our nation (the Islamic world) has been tasting this humiliation and this degradation for more than 80 years. Its sons are killed, its blood is shed, its sanctuaries are attacked, and no one hears and no one heeds..." etc. etc. etc. |
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as for bin laden. sure are not 100 percent sure he was behind 9/11. but from my view, anyone who train es someone to blow them self up. is surely a crazy person.
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A GREAT article on Massoud, the CIA in Afghanistan and their relationship with Massoud, and the search for bin Laden there: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3853553
Steve Coll wrote a great book, much more lengthier than the lengthy story from the source above called Ghost Wars. Steve Coll is a Pulitzer Prize-winning American journalist and writer. |
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