Topic: Jesus......?.
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Mon 07/07/08 03:00 PM


Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.

Personally I think it all depends on what your theory on Jesus really is. It seems there are different thoughts on this .My own thoughts are that I don't know what is fact or fiction,.

The question becomes : if the faithfuls do not know or do not wish to admit how he died , then what do really know about him ?.

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Mon 07/07/08 03:01 PM

Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

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Mon 07/07/08 03:01 PM


Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

Humans did . We all know that .

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Mon 07/07/08 03:03 PM
What was the name of the Roman who stuck a spear into Jesus's ribs?? I forgot!

He made sure he died and the spear is now unique item in history, yet never found right?

Who has information on this?

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Mon 07/07/08 03:15 PM



Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

Humans did . We all know that .


God and Jesus made a martyr-suicide pact ...it was Jesus's mission to get himself killed ..who killed Jesus wasn't the top priority that he got killed in front of witnesses was

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Mon 07/07/08 03:18 PM




Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

Humans did . We all know that .


God and Jesus made a martyr-suicide pact ...it was Jesus's mission to get himself killed ..who killed Jesus wasn't the top priority that he got killed in front of witnesses was

So it was a God/ Jesus conspiracy ?.rofl rofl

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Mon 07/07/08 03:21 PM





Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

Humans did . We all know that .


God and Jesus made a martyr-suicide pact ...it was Jesus's mission to get himself killed ..who killed Jesus wasn't the top priority that he got killed in front of witnesses was

So it was a God/ Jesus conspiracy ?.rofl rofl


well who else did God ask to supposely die for the sins of mankind ...Judas?

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Mon 07/07/08 03:23 PM






Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

Humans did . We all know that .


God and Jesus made a martyr-suicide pact ...it was Jesus's mission to get himself killed ..who killed Jesus wasn't the top priority that he got killed in front of witnesses was

So it was a God/ Jesus conspiracy ?.rofl rofl


well who else did God ask to supposely die for the sins of mankind ...Judas?

I do not believe in religions and their crap .
But even history is somehow distorted .

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Mon 07/07/08 03:32 PM



http://www.ucg.org/booklets/JC/killedjesus.htm


:heart::heart::heart:

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Mon 07/07/08 03:34 PM




http://www.ucg.org/booklets/JC/killedjesus.htm


:heart::heart::heart:


Here we go. thanks:smile:

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Mon 07/07/08 03:45 PM




http://www.ucg.org/booklets/JC/killedjesus.htm


:heart::heart::heart:


and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:5-6, NIV).

like I said ...it was God that got him killed by laiding those pesty iniquities on Jesus

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Mon 07/07/08 03:50 PM







Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God

Humans did . We all know that .


God and Jesus made a martyr-suicide pact ...it was Jesus's mission to get himself killed ..who killed Jesus wasn't the top priority that he got killed in front of witnesses was

So it was a God/ Jesus conspiracy ?.rofl rofl


well who else did God ask to supposely die for the sins of mankind ...Judas?

I do not believe in religions and their crap .
But even history is somehow distorted .


History seems logical to me, yet the problem like you say that even history gets distorted. Imagine how many times the bible has been changed in the 2000 years! Sometimes I wonder if the bible as it was first written is anything like it is written today??

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Mon 07/07/08 03:54 PM
Here is what I found in Morningsongs thread:

The Romans were also guilty in the death of this innocent Man. Pilate sentenced Him, knowing He was innocent of the charges brought against Him. The Romans carried out the sentence in typical fashion—a brutal beating, scourging and crucifixion. It was a Roman who drove the nails into His wrists and feet. It was a Roman spear thrust into His side.

Still doesn't state the name of the Roman who thrusted the spear though??


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Mon 07/07/08 04:37 PM


Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God



if any believe that god killed jesus, then would not the same logic maintained in ones own words also believe the men that killed him were gods......

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Mon 07/07/08 04:45 PM





http://www.ucg.org/booklets/JC/killedjesus.htm


:heart::heart::heart:


and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:5-6, NIV).

like I said ...it was God that got him killed by laiding those pesty iniquities on Jesus



so he felt "love" and felt the pain of seeing all evil just as each human born.......what more does this scripture say but that.........

scriptures can prove anything one first believe and wish to believe, as anything read that support any believe either add to the reasons to believe, or take away the desire to believe, but still the PERCEPTION of anything FIRST decide what is believed or not believed........peace

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Mon 07/07/08 05:45 PM

Here is what I found in Morningsongs thread:

The Romans were also guilty in the death of this innocent Man. Pilate sentenced Him, knowing He was innocent of the charges brought against Him. The Romans carried out the sentence in typical fashion—a brutal beating, scourging and crucifixion. It was a Roman who drove the nails into His wrists and feet. It was a Roman spear thrust into His side.

Still doesn't state the name of the Roman who thrusted the spear though??




Jesus( the Word ...see John chapter one)already knew......even before the very foundations of the world, that He would lay down His Life willingly for all mankind.

God knows the end from the begnning and the beginnng from the end.

So yes, it was a Roman spear that pieced Jesus's side..but Jesus could have called 10 000 angels to rescue Him..but He did Not.
He lay down His life willingly for all, to pay for our sins..so we would not have to.

All we have to do is recieve this free gift of Grace given.
He paid the price for our salvation....already in full.

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Mon 07/07/08 06:47 PM


Here is what I found in Morningsongs thread:

The Romans were also guilty in the death of this innocent Man. Pilate sentenced Him, knowing He was innocent of the charges brought against Him. The Romans carried out the sentence in typical fashion—a brutal beating, scourging and crucifixion. It was a Roman who drove the nails into His wrists and feet. It was a Roman spear thrust into His side.

Still doesn't state the name of the Roman who thrusted the spear though??




Jesus( the Word ...see John chapter one)already knew......even before the very foundations of the world, that He would lay down His Life willingly for all mankind.

God knows the end from the begnning and the beginnng from the end.

So yes, it was a Roman spear that pieced Jesus's side..but Jesus could have called 10 000 angels to rescue Him..but He did Not.
He lay down His life willingly for all, to pay for our sins..so we would not have to.

All we have to do is recieve this free gift of Grace given.
He paid the price for our salvation....already in full.

I find it very disturbing that one will die for the sins of others . It does not follow logic and the responsibility of the individual .

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Mon 07/07/08 09:22 PM
It was the same ones who killed the prophets.. The religious elite who were in power. They will take out whoever threatens thier power. Its the same yesterday, today and tommorrow..Blessings..Miles

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Mon 07/07/08 09:26 PM
It doesnt really matter who killed him.

The accused slime ball that did will get a court-appointed attorney, plead temporary insanity brought about by eating juniper bushes, it will plead down to a misdemenour, and with time served will be out in 3 days.

Job done!

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Tue 07/08/08 05:45 AM



Who do you really think killed Jesus ?.


God



if any believe that god killed jesus, then would not the same logic maintained in ones own words also believe the men that killed him were gods......


"Davidben" ..that's not logic that's pantheist belief in which a pantheist believes that everyone is a lesser God of a supreme God ...but when pertaining to Jesus one has to go by biblical or christian belief in which no Christian would agree that "Man is God"

besides Jesus wasn't killed by Men...Jesus supposely died on the cross and life and death in this case was in the hands of God ...therefore God killed Jesus