My heightened awareness is a direct result from having a good memory which retains the knowledge of what has been perceived.



Get it yet?

"Separate the message from the messenger."

I always try to do that.

Jane Roberts, Channeled material called "The Seth books." I was not all that excited about reading channeled stuff but I read her book "The Nature of Personal Reality" and I really liked it.

I didn't much care where the information came from. It was great stuff.

JB

In contemplating the non-existence of nothing, infinity and the fabric of the universe I have an idea about its nature that is very abstract.

If reality is holographic in nature that would mean that everything is a reflection of light projected from a two dimensional surface. All information for this universe is stored on this two dimensional surface and projected into the area of this three dimensional world in which we live. Yes, it is like a holographic program powered by some kind of light energy. Think of it as a giant microchip or holographic film.

The true self behind the life living within the matrix is contained within the light that powers the hologram, and like a hologram, the self is splintered into infinite points of view.
(That would be all things including us.) The true self does not exist within the matrix, but is "plugged into it."

Later..
JB

Stating that all deity-based religions must necessarily reduce to pantheism is hardly a derogatory statement. It's just an observation of fact.

It could only be considered to be derogatory if a person views pantheism in a negative way.

This is certainly not my view. Patheism merely states that all thing arise from spirit. There's nothing derogatory about that.

"The Father God" The Creator and Father of all the universe.

"The Holy Spirit" Is what enters you when you have a personal
relationship with The "Father God" and His Son Jesus Christ.

"The Son" The living Son of the Creator and One that brings "Salvation"

Abra,

If someone breaks the rules, you should report that person. Or ignore their posts. You should not also break the rules. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Sorry Creative,


I see now that I said the same thing as you.

When Chistians say that Jesus Christ is the ONLY GOD and everyone who doens't believe in him is a hell bound heathen, they are automatically making a derogatory statement about every non-Christian belief system.



Then don't read my posts. No one is forcing you to read them. You know what my positon is.

I see Christian proselytizing as spewing hatred to all non-believes of Christianity, yet they hide behind the facade that they are spreading love.

Yeah right. You're just upset because I make such great points and you can't compete with them.

You know that I'm right and it angers you.

You're allowing you emotions to overwhelm you.

You disagree with my position and you can't stand it.

You would love to see me kicked off the forums.

But I don't make personal attacks on people like you are currently attacking me.

I'm sorry Spider but I'm not breaking the rules.

When I suggest that the Bible appears to have been written by men with an agenda to control people. That is not breaking the rules.

I'm not saying that anyone is wrong for believing it.

I'm not claiming that anyone is rejecting God.

I'm not suggesting that anyone is hell bound for how they believe or don't believe.

I'm just stating a perfecly legitamate position that I feel the bible was written by men and can't possible be from an all-wise creator of this universe.

That is not breaking any rules. It's just an opinion.

Christians on the other hand do break the rules because they are telling other people that they are rejecting God if they don't believe in the bible.

I don't tell anyone how to interact with God.

I don't break the rules Spider.

There is a huge difference between believing your own beliefs to be the truth and proclaiming that another's beliefs are not true.



No, you are very wrong. You interpret scripture like you have an agenda to make Christianity look as bad as possible. You rarely say anything positive about your beliefs without throwing in a handful of insults for Christianity.



I'm perfectly calm.



Yes, I disagree with your position. I have stood it quite long enough. I find the insulting of another's beliefs unnecessary. You don't have to insult Christianity to disagree with Christians.



That is simply not true. I have asked you to stop speaking in a derogatory manner about Christianity for months. If I wanted you kicked from the forums, I would have reported your posts before now. I would love to see you discuss religion wouldn't trying to be offensive.



I have not made any personal attacks. I believe you make derogatory comments about Christianity, so I warned you that I would start reporting your posts with derogatory language. What you posted is a personal attack, by falsely claiming that I made a personal attack against you.

Abra,

I'm not going to waste any more time or space debating this with you.



Derogatory


If you believe that you haven't made derogatory statements about Christianity, then you have clearly not been reading your own posts.

When Chistians say that Jesus Christ is the ONLY GOD and everyone who doens't believe in him is a hell bound heathen, they are automatically making a derogatory statement about every non-Christian belief system.



who said this......OMG let me at em.....this is such a bad bad filty lie........Christ is not the only GOD.....GOD IS TO






sorry abra couldn't resist.....



ok 10 lashings for Debbie with a wet noodle.

Ok, you're just trying to get in on the spankings now.

So here you have admitted that you are "at odds with JB."
(And so many times you pretended not to be.)
I'm really sorry you feel "at odds" with me.


As for the rest of your post, Mirror was not saying the same thing that you were saying. I will go into it in more detail if you are confused on the issue.

JB

I was really bad.....so lashings for me.....

I just have massive loves for JB.....we have each others backs......

Oh Really? Well if I believe a thing to be a lie or an untruth, I should not be disallowed or refrained from saying so.

It's called freedom of speech.

Are you against freedom of speech? Are you against freedom of expression? Are you against freedom of religion?

You are acting like you would love to be able to silence anyone who speaks out against your beliefs or says anything that slightly offends you.

Instead of complaining and trying to silence dissent for your beliefs, why don't you present a logical argument in an intelligent manner, that is positive and enlightening?

JB

To Jesse and Artgirl,

I have re-read this entire thread and I honestly don't see any personal attacks, no language intended to demean, and nothing offensive from me to your friend Creative, so please enlighten me as to why you would make a statement like this. ...with a laughing head no less...

JB

God just is, was, and always will be

Is It Edible?

Even without a brain to analyze what it's eating, the Venus Flytrap still manages to differentiate between insects and non-edible debris that might fall into its trap. This step is also mediated by the six sensitive trigger hairs. An insect caught inside the partially closed trap will continue to thrash about in an attempt to escape. It's guaranteed that at least one (if not all) of the trigger hairs will be tweaked by the insect's movement. This serves as the signal to close the trap entirely.

Inanimate objects like stones, twigs and leaves that fall into the trap, or objects that are placed there (what child can resist sticking the tip of their pencil into the trap to watch it close?), will not move around and fire the trigger hairs. If there is no further stimulation of the hair, the trap stays in its partially shut state until tension can be re-established in the leaves of the trap. This process takes about 12 hours, at which point the leaves spread apart again. The unwanted object either falls out as the leaves re-open or is blown out by the wind.

The selection process obviously isn't perfect; while the trap is out of commission, real food in the form of flies and spiders may be crawling all around the plant. Imagine if you had to sit with a chicken bone or peach pit in your mouth for 12 hours while the rest of your dinner sat on the table in front of you! The difference is that you are conscious of what you're eating, while the Venus Flytrap is a passive participant in choosing what it's going to eat for dinner. The process is actually a nifty way for the Venus Flytrap to get around two problems:

* It lacks a brain to tell it that it's biting down on something inedible.

* It lacks the musculature to spit it out.