I dont want to have kids because Ive always been afraid some cop is gonna use it as a way to rip me off of a bunch of money like they do other people all the time.

I don't think most of the comments were directed at your post, but I could be wrong. My only comment on your post is that the father's role needs to be considered as well.

And as a mother in that exact position, I agree - I need help. Do you want to come help me?

Robert, Winx, and Cute - I agree with all of you. It is so healing to read your compassion and common sense after all the meanness that pervaded this thread.

i have to say, this seems like something more than you can handle alone. I think you need to get some help from someone, a counselour, send her to a boot camp, discuss it with Dr. Phil or someone, but whatever you do, you need to it as soon as possible because the longer you wait, the more problems that are going to be caused. You might even take your two sons also to make sure you know what they think of their sisters behavior.

Can I ask, do you cus when dealing with her? Do you smoke?

Do you hug her and tell her you love her?

Could she be craving the attention and security negative behaviour gets her?

You say her brothers seem to be going the same way, could they be feeling left out and see the attention their sister gets?

i am a single mom i hve two left at home to teach age 16 and 4 both of them are boys and i do believe my son knows know what will happen if he ever cross a line like this hen thry began to talk to you any kinda of way ad you let it slip they try something else and then finally theyve gone to far if she has mood swings and on medicine make sure she stays on it. if she will let you hug her and see whats wrong dont just threaten her with a solution be the soultion dont dont give up on your relationship with her sometime tuff love has to be the only way do your best at being mom and let God medicine do the rest failure is not an option

I am glad we see eye to eye at least on this subject which is fortunate and a basis to build a foundation for other topics without getting emotions involved and let the facts alone direct the thread

I told you we were in complete agreement on one thread. We can't agree all the time..we both have strong opinions..it doesn't mean we can't like each other and be friends. I disagree with my friends all the time.

I told you we were in complete agreement on one thread. We can't agree all the time..we both have strong opinions..it doesn't mean we can't like each other and be friends. I disagree with my friends all the time.

I don't have problems in different opinions at all. Far from it I encourage it and in fact my friends know and would say that at times I play devils advocate.

I am only pointing out that in discussions I try to keep emotions out .Strong opinions are no trouble to me but lets agree that if in any discussions you enter or I enter as a team to try to keep the others refraining using personal or derogatory remarks at bay so the thread does not become a slanging match. If more than one person objects to those remarks then the perpetrator will soon stop . This sounds like a good plan lets promote that. I do that all the time and will continue to do so.
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I told you we were in complete agreement on one thread. We can't agree all the time..we both have strong opinions..it doesn't mean we can't like each other and be friends. I disagree with my friends all the time.

I don't have problems in different opinions at all. Far from it I encourage it and in fact my friends know and would say that at times I play devils advocate.

I am only pointing out that in discussions I try to keep emotions out .Strong opinions are no trouble to me but lets agree that if in any discussions you enter or I enter as a team to try to keep the others refraining using personal or derogatory remarks at bay so the thread does not become a slanging match. If more than one person objects to those remarks then the perpetrator will soon stop . This sounds like a good plan lets promote that. I do that all the time and will continue to do so.
will you assist?



Yes. Have I made personal or derogatory remarks toward you?

thanx hiker.as a mom going thru the same issue(as you are)i can totally relate to this womans frustration.

The last thing you need at time like that is criticism and blame.

you got that right.if one more person tells me i need the supernanny,i'm gonna scream!!!

Pack her bags and tell her to get out. Tell her you can't take it anymore and give up. Then hand her $20 and say, "Good luck."

It will definately give her a serious reality check. Network with her friends parents to keep an eye on her so you can send them some maintenance money. You don't want her hooking for extra cash or selling drugs.