I dont remember ever reading that Jesus had a sword. From what I read, he would come into town then feed people, heal them, etc. After that he would teach them from the Old Testament. He would also help them understand the MEANING of the scriptures. Because the people of his day (just like us) tended to get caught up in the "letter of the law" and they would miss meaning behind those words. People say things like: "so and so said or did that a thousand years before Jesus did" The problem with that line of thinking is that Jesus was also GOD and since GOD is, was and always will be; Jesus's actions (GOD's plan) was already known. Jesus knew what he was gonna do before there was even an earth or people. We can find patterns in all kinds of things. Like say... 12 Apostles and 12 signs of the Zodiac. Well there are also 12 eggs in a dozen. So? Are eggs pagan? I think that most Pagans are good, intelligent people who only seek the truth. They hunger for righteousness and they despise evil. There is nothing Pagan about the Bible or the good news of salvation. Has Christianity been watered down by pagan and secular influences over the years? Oh you betcha! Xmas =pagan Easter =pagan But even with those obvious facts, I would say to anyone who would listen: Dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Christianity put Pagan traditions into their religions, Pagans didn't invite themselves and offer these things up. One example, your christmas tree. The evergreen is used during pagan ritual for the winter solstice, it has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus yet at christmas time it's all about the biggest, best decorated tree. Paganism has not watered down christianity, christians have. You are right. I, myself, see Christmas as a seasonal holiday. There are no real Christian holidays. I dont agree with most of your OP, but what you just said is 100% true. Chrstianity needs more wise women like you. As far as being international there is at least one holiday in the US that started out as a christian holiday. That holiday is Thanksgiving. if you look at the history it was a time every year that started with the pilgrims to give thanks to God for the previous years blessings. |
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Okay since this forum hardly has any posts I decided to start one. See how long it goes. here is how it works. Use 3 words to describe the person above you.
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I'm new and I really don't care all that much about my profile, but I need the attention for a bit. Thanks. First question is what is your goal. The type of guy you want. From what I see you are looking to attract someone who does not care about online dating. This defeats the purpose. Are you looking for a hookup or a good relationship? Think of a profile like a resume. You want a few highlights that draw people in. You want them to think this person is interesting and I want to know more. Most guys have a short attention span so long profile will often mean skip at first. On the other hand to short will make then think easy. Also comments you make in the posts can lead more to who you really are so comment like I need attention for a bit says drama queen or high maintenance. Both flags to stay away. You may want to have your friend Angie who told you to join check out your profile and see what she thinks. hope this helps. That was real honesty.. thank you, hun. I kinda started this thread as a joke because I'm really bored and I didn't expect this much feedback. I'm not really the attention seeking type. I am just trying to entertain myself. Its no problem. Good feedback is what is needed to improve ourselves or our profiles. Anyone can tare someone down. But what good does that do? Hope you find what you are looking for. |
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I'm new and I really don't care all that much about my profile, but I need the attention for a bit. Thanks. First question is what is your goal. The type of guy you want. From what I see you are looking to attract someone who does not care about online dating. This defeats the purpose. Are you looking for a hookup or a good relationship? Think of a profile like a resume. You want a few highlights that draw people in. You want them to think this person is interesting and I want to know more. Most guys have a short attention span so long profile will often mean skip at first. On the other hand to short will make then think easy. Also comments you make in the posts can lead more to who you really are so comment like I need attention for a bit says drama queen or high maintenance. Both flags to stay away. You may want to have your friend Angie who told you to join check out your profile and see what she thinks. hope this helps. |
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looks good to me. full body shots are always nice. guys tend to like the full body shot more than close ups.
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Having sex for recreation purposes or not being involved with your partner is wrong. I believe though if a couple are exclusive, loving and committed to each other, what's wrong with that. There are some couples committed to each other, but don't want to be married for some reason. I, myself think marriage (state interferrance) is illrelevant. So many states have made a mockery of marriage. Even though this liberal state overwhelming voted that marriage was between a man and a woman, the states politicians, who know so much more and protecting it's citizens than the voters know, the politicians overrode the vote with semantics and came up with a law legalizing Civil Unions . There are other states where homosexuals can actually marry. In the state where I live 'The Peoples Republic Of Oregon', I don't want the phase "Under the Oregon state laws" and a license signed by the governor, who made Civil Unions possible. I find that hypocritical. I'm making a covenant to God and the woman I'm in love with, there will still be the commitment between us. God knows how I feel about commitment. Is there anyplace in the Bible where it says, verbatim, that committed sex is exclusively for marriage? I have read of people having a commitment ceremony to avoid the states interference. Governments didn't even get involved in the process of marriage for a long time. . In Jesus' time you didn't need a preacher or a license from the state to be married, just an agreement and commitment between the two and marriage was not a civil event as it is today. Does God understand the commitment of the heart, in his eyes you have committed your heart and soul to each other. I've read there are indications that at that time fornication was meant as casual sex or party sex. Ron In the time of Jesus marriage was different. You got married publicly but did not live together until a year after. At this time was the marriage consummated. Also if the wife was found not to be a virgin the husband would have proof and be able to divorce her. Looking at the way society takes marriage I think we have it all wrong. Make us spend the same amount of time and money getting married as it takes to get a divorce and you would see fewer divorces. |
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OK then, as a Christian single, how many have ound themselves having sex efore you were married? Another question: If God ment sex to be enjoyed in marriage and to procreate. Should sex be avoided by those unable to father or give birth to a baby or too old to become pregnet. What is more sinful, having a baby out of wedlock or abortion? Think about it. Ron Good question. Is it more sinful to kill or to have sex? Well turn to the bible. it answers that question. Look at James 2:10. All sin is equal in the eyes of the lord. so the answer would be they are the same. |
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Hey, I recently become a christian and I have a very big question. I learned from the 10 commandments that we should not have sex before mariage. I must say, it is easy to talk than to act. How do you do that? How can anyone not having sex for years? Thanks Tough question how to avoid sex. Well what is your focus? If your focus is on sex then not having sex is nearly impossible. As far as relationships go what is your goal? Myself I have not had sex in about 6 and a half years. At first it was tough but as time goes on and my focus changed I do not think about it as much. Focusing on following Christ will change your values. over time your focus changes from your wants to serving others needs. As for you that is a decision you must make. i read a book that had a set of 4 questions that you can use to determine if you are in God's will. Questions are as follows: 1) Am I doing this for the glory of God, or just to please myself? 2) Am I rushing ahead impulsively, or am I willing to wait? 3) Can I defend what I am doing from the word of God? 4) As I contemplate this move do I have joy and peace within? Now apply those questions to having sex before marriage. I think you can figure out the answers. if not we can go into them more and discuss this. Email me if you like. Jon |
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There is no confusion for me.. I know what works for me and what doesn't. You can't have religion with out the politics, holier than thou attitudes, and judgmental people... that is the problem. And because all religions were started by "founders" which are men... how can one say that it is the only truth. Religions all sound like the founders were a room full of men drinking shots.. Some of them were. Looking at the history of the religions a lot of the so called leaders were alcoholics. |
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Ok I think there was some confusion there. I see religion in its true form is a great thing. Once you eliminate the politics,holier then thou attitudes, and judgmental people that run through religions then you have a good thing. If more religions acted as their religion actually called them to there would not be an issue with religion. I find it so strange that most of the founders of religions would not even be accepted in the temples or churches that they started. Makes you wonder who are they really following. What do you think?
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i have done research. haven't come across this quote before that is why i was asking. as far as doing research you may not want to rely on youtube. just seams like quote is taking out of context. Thomas Paine didn't oppose Christianity. He opposed organized religion. He felt that organized religion often corrupted the original message of that religion. He believed in God it was the different aspects of religion he had issue with. such as Islam, Judaism and Christianity all being different but claiming to be from the same God.
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It means I agree and I'm spreading the good word... or I wouldn't have put the energy into posting. Yeah, Thomas Paine made up the quote.. Someone besides Thomas Paine. For example, Jon Doe Circulates an email claiming Thomas Paine said this when he never actually said it. Just wondering what book it is in of his. |
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"Christianity is a parody of worship of the sun, going back to Horus the Egyptian God. A man called Christ is put in place of the sun and is payed the adoration originally payed to the sun." Thomas Paine Free yourself from Christianity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0hcu7cZFTs So what does this mean to you? Also where did you find this quote at? Is it valid? Or did someone make it up? Just wondering. |
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Hmmm Okay I'll disagree. Sometimes the internet forces you to actually talk more/longer than if dating in real life, due to the distance. right but that is not actual dating that is just getting to know them. Dating is in person not online. You get an idea of them but unless it is in real time true answers are often changed to correct answers. Right. But I was speaking in the sense that you meet online first, then meet in person. In that sense you have gotten to know them without the clouding of uh let's say, tire kicking in the way. ok i see where you are coming from. I guess I just differ in that way. i don't feel I can communicate effectively unless I am in person. I usually find out more about someone when talking in person as opposed to online |
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That's because some people on the internet are starving for sex HEY! I might resemble that remark! To the OP: internet or real life .... I'm kicking the tires as soon as feel the vibe to know whether I'm buying the car. I know right away if someone will annoy the crap out of me or not, and if they have staying power (for a relationship). There is no cure for bad sex so let's just test that right away! depends on what you mean by bad sex. inexperience often resembles bad sex. so a willingness to learn might be the only cure. |
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Hmmm Okay I'll disagree. Sometimes the internet forces you to actually talk more/longer than if dating in real life, due to the distance. right but that is not actual dating that is just getting to know them. Dating is in person not online. You get an idea of them but unless it is in real time true answers are often changed to correct answers. |
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I completely agree with you! I feel that most men I have gone out with are expecting sex to happen way too soon and if I wanted that heck I could go down to the local bar. NOT what I'm looking for... I get the same thing. Myself I feel date for a few months before even considering sex. Its so much easier to see the warning signs when you are not focusing on getting laid. |
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Howdy everyone!! Just poppin in here to say hiya ;) Check out my profle when you got a chance! Hopin to hear from ya'll too! May want to be more direct at what you want. you are kind of hinting at it. Also be more specific in the type of guy you want. Any values they should have. Any shared interests. That would be helpful. Check out mine also. let me know |
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Just wondering what everyone's take is on internet dating. To me it sees that there is more of a push towards sex sooner. Does everyone find this to be true? Why is this? Why can't we just spend more time getting to know the real person. Just because their profile says all the right words does not mean that is who they are. Does anyone else fill like this?
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REALLY HOT GUY, who is totally nice, and excites me thats in my area, and has a sexy voice,and all kinds of great things going for himmm.. and blahh blahhhh.. *tingle* *tingle* *excellent vibe* Now talk me down please with a dose of reality, cos I dont need to turn into a 12 year old girl with no sense here. Hurry before I get sickening, and give myself diabetes being sweet on someone. as long as the friends approve shouldn't be a problem. if they are good friends they will warn you of the crap you ignore. yeah, I already asked one male friend. Im gonna ask more people. Thanks. and nice pic! no problem using friends is the key to seeing what you don't see in the first stages of lust. also thanks for the comment on the pic. trying to improve my profile if you have some suggestions let me know Cant complain about your profile. Your my type, body type, looks, you volunteer like I do, and dedicated to your kiddss... If you were sicilian or italian that would be icing on the cake. More pics is all you need. thanks for the suggestions. dont have many pics of myself usually the one taking pics |
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