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Obama and Infanticide
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lol okay that's a new one.
Anyway, I'm waiting for a candidate who will advocate an 18 year grace period, not a measly 45 days. |
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PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!
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i don't know if that's supposed to make me feel sympathetic or not but if a couple is paying over $4,000/month in a mortgage, it sounds to me as though they are living way beyond their means, and it's tough for me to muster up any sympathy for them i've never heard of an adjustable rate, but it sounds to me as though they gambled on lower interest rates - and lost. Yeah, I kind of have to agree on that. I don't understand why somebody who apparently has enough to pay $4000 a month is unable to get a regular loan. |
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lol heard it before but it's still funny
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PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!
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They should contact Code Pink...they managed to raise money to keep a woman in New York from losing her house to foreclosure.
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i put myself through college on student loans. these are the lowest intrest rate available for a loan. I also was a single parent.so i got Pell grants that paid my tuition and books. the system WORKS. many people dont use it. give criminals, felons, a good education. this is great and I do know that they at least can obtain their GED in prison...at the least. but yanno..fact is they get out...most of em are gonna hit the streets again and make money the easy way. The problems with education start long before college. Children of people with more money are able to get better educations and therefore have more options after high school. |
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Does any waiter make more than a quarter million a year? Take from one, give to another... Societies have fallen from concepts as these... We've done it before - Clinton. WOW....Don't get me started on Clinton... The concept of Wealth redistribution sounds a bit socialistic to me. I believe if someone earned it, they have more of a right to it than you or I. I'm going to school in hope to one day become a medical doctor... That's 4 years of college (biologies, biochem, calculus, etc.) then one year of interviewing and applications to colleges around the country, 4 years of medical school, followed by another 4 years of residency. THEN i can apply for a job to pay back $250,000 dollars in student loans. Starting salary for a radiologist on average in the country is $300,000 to $400,000. Why does some guy who works part time at the supermarket have more of a right to some of that money than me? You take away incentive to strive for things like that when we try to even out wages. If we NEEDED income tax at all... flat tax is the only fair tax IMO. I still think it's foolish to start preaching about wealth redistribution when we should be thinking about how to make our money go further... I don't think anyone here is saying that everyone should make the same wages regardless of their job or education. You can have different pay rates for different jobs and still pay everybody a living wage, or at least have government support for those who do not make a living wage. A good place to start is to help people get a good education without the high interest student loans.While they are in college,they agree to do community service in their community or Habitat for Humanity to work it off.If we can give criminals free college educations on our dime then lets educate poor people ,give then hope and the skills to make a decent wage before they get to jail or get mired in hopelessness. I agree. A living wage for all jobs is also important. Even if we manage to get a lot of people educated and into high level jobs, that doesn't erase the need for the lower level jobs and people to fill them. People who end up filling those jobs should have the opportunity to rise above if they wish and are willing to put in the work, but they shouldn't be punished with poverty wages for providing services that we need or want. |
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im just certain there are lots of programs out there right now to help the poor and help people get an education. many dont use or take advantages of these programs. and really..you cant hold a gun to these peoples heads to get them offa the streets. they are there for one reason or another. and maybe its not their fault.......BUT again...their are many resources currently available There are programs, but they're often inadequate, or they only address a symptom and not the root of the problem. Education is probably the best example...I've gone to a school where most people were middle or upper class, and a school where most people were poor. The difference in the quality of the teachers, the facilities, the materials, the programs, the difference in the police presence on campus, and so on, are remarkable. Yeah, you can get out of it, but in order to rise from the bottom to the middle you have to be exceptional, whereas if you're born into the middle you only have to be ordinary to stay there. Most people are ordinary. |
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i rmember awhile back seeing a interview where the guy said they would do that if he is elected. i be that America is going to be cast into a mass riot if he dosnt get elected and if he dose i believe some other hate group would come after obama. too much hate for color of skin, i feel like obama and mccain are pushing the same bs just different puppets with the hands up thier asses. I doubt very much if there will be a riot if he is not elected. I Don't! Watch, it'll be a Conspiracy by the Right Wing and Cities will Burn! that's what Dems Do when they Don't Get there Way...Not You Winx...You're Awesome  I didn't see any cities burning in 2000. |
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Does any waiter make more than a quarter million a year? Take from one, give to another... Societies have fallen from concepts as these... We've done it before - Clinton. WOW....Don't get me started on Clinton... The concept of Wealth redistribution sounds a bit socialistic to me. I believe if someone earned it, they have more of a right to it than you or I. I'm going to school in hope to one day become a medical doctor... That's 4 years of college (biologies, biochem, calculus, etc.) then one year of interviewing and applications to colleges around the country, 4 years of medical school, followed by another 4 years of residency. THEN i can apply for a job to pay back $250,000 dollars in student loans. Starting salary for a radiologist on average in the country is $300,000 to $400,000. Why does some guy who works part time at the supermarket have more of a right to some of that money than me? You take away incentive to strive for things like that when we try to even out wages. If we NEEDED income tax at all... flat tax is the only fair tax IMO. I still think it's foolish to start preaching about wealth redistribution when we should be thinking about how to make our money go further... I don't think anyone here is saying that everyone should make the same wages regardless of their job or education. You can have different pay rates for different jobs and still pay everybody a living wage, or at least have government support for those who do not make a living wage. |
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Mirror, Check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RFrEzQAOvM Here's another one: http://americantittycommittee.org/ I love their name.
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You actually have to listen to what he says to know what he's saying, yanno.
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Does any waiter make more than a quarter million a year? Take from one, give to another... Societies have fallen from concepts as these... Yeah, Sweden and Canada really went down the ****ter...oh wait |
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whom should they guy have helped then?? the waitress...cause she is working and trying to support herself?? or should he have helped the homeless guy? becasue who knows when he will eat again?? If he only had enough money to do one of the two, and he wanted to help the homeless guy, he should have eaten at home. Tipping is part of eating out in the United States. It's not legally mandatory, but I think it should be ethically mandatory. The waiter would have to do more than lousy service (i.e. slow bringing food, etc.) for me to withhold any tip at all. Anyway, this isn't a situation where the service is lousy. It's just the customer being an asshole. |
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BUT it wasnt the waiters money.. it belonged to the customer...the diner The diner obviously punished the waiter for his political views and is not a working class person because as one of the working class I would have tipped the waiter regardless of his tie and slipped the homeless guy money also.The diner in this scenario is obviously a pompous ass who should eat at home. Even the guys from Reservoir Dogs understand this! |
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Topic:
Dumbing Down Of America
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I just think it's funny how McCain, who's the son of an army admiral and married into being millionaire, is the regular joe, whereas Obama, who was raised by a single mom and grandparents who at one point had to be on food stamps, went to school with scholarships and loans, and is a self made millionaire is less of a regular joe.
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with wanting to identify your candidate, but I agree that there's a huge problem with anti-intellectualism. I want a smart president, sorry. I mean, I don't want my president to be an elitist, but I do want him to be elite. |
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let me just throw something out here sooo you're saying a nurse works less hard than the ceo making $250,000/yr and therefore shouldnt be accorded the inalienable human right of healthcare which she cant afford? the garbage collector works "less hard" than say... paris hilton and therefore should pay a greater proportion of his salary to penalize him for his laziness?? while paris hilton buys clothes for her dog? Isn't the notion that people who make less than $250,000 are somehow lazy and less worthy of being allowed human rights elitist? if i make $40,000/year as a school teacher and my government took $20,000 from both I and the next guy who made $300,000... and tells me i should "work harder" if i want the benefit of being able to not having to give up buying dinner for my kids so i dont die in a hospital waiting for care... i'd say that was completely absurd and pack up and move AMEN. |
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the only thing that is gonna help the middle class is to increase the value of the dollar. to stop importing and do more exporting. i dont mind paying taxes...just give me my dollar not 25 cents Yeah, I agree. And I also think that a living wage will do a lot more to fight poverty than just tax cuts and food stamps, although those help. I don't think either of us are gonna get what we wish for, tho. |
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The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. point being were are in an ecomnomic crisis here. do we give MORE to the POOR?????? or do we give more to the middle class? or to the upper class??? who should get more taxes?? more tax breaks?? if u r rich or poor...either way.....ya got it better than i do right now today. much better medical benefits and more time with your children. im just like a waitress who tries everyday You don't have to mkake a choice between helping the middle class or helping the poor. Anyway, I don't know what you do, but it's the poor that generally don't have the luxury of things like medical benefits and time with their children. |
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Just because someone is homeless doesn't make them less worthy of help. Agreed. |
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The point is not how much the waiter makes. It is the waiter worked harder than the person on the street. Why the hell should that guy be able to tell the waiter where his money goes. Yeah, but when you're talking about the rich getting taxed more than the middle and lower class, it isn't a comparison between People Who Work and People Who Don't Work. Middle and lower class people do work long and hard, often difficult physical jobs where they are horribly underpaid, often two jobs. Rich people don't have more money because they work harder, only because they do a different kind of work that is more valued in this society, even if they wouldn't be able to do their work without all of the lower paid people doing the less valued work. |
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