Explain singularities.

There is no such thing as nothing or zero.

western slavery was not a COMMAND

references to slavery in the bible were about the SOCIAL CLIMATE of that culture and encouraged people to treat people with decency,, period,,,,not the WESTERN version of whipping and selling children into slavery,,,,,that was never COMMANDED.....

nor was it commanded that WE KILL homosexuals,, especially after the sacrifice of Jesus when jews were no longer set aside from others,

consenting 'slaves' is not immoral,,,we still have BDSM lifestyles today,, with RESPECT Between master and consentual slave

and followers of Christ were told that to spill blood of another man is not moral,,,,,unless one is sinless themself,, which none are,,,

The act of prayer works for one reason and one reason only, because it acts as a placebo, people believe it works and therefore it does, they seek the answers not in an old dusty book but within themselves. They may use some of the words from the bible to guide them in the same way that normal people would use words from a self help book; but the concept is all the same. God does not show anyone the way, unless you can literally say that god or one of his messenger boys(IE: Jesus, Moses .etc) came to you in person and told you to follow a specific path then you can not blame the path you follow on them whether it be righteous or evil. I think msharmony speaks a very specific double standard in the words she chooses to use. Things like "god shows me the way" but at the next turn "God has no power over man, we all make our own choices". There is no god showing us the way, there's words in the bible(written by man) and the experiences we choose to take with us throughout our lives.

Psychology is something very much in direct conflict of religion, because it near-perfectly explains why we make the choices that we do, and has many enlightening teachings that are beyond what the bible is capable of explaining because it's a science far more advanced than anything known when the bible was pieced together.


"Just seen not long ago on the History channel that Scientist went into a large silent prayer meeting and their instruments started spiking when they started praying.. They had no explanation for what was happening at all"

That's the problem with the way many people think, if we cannot explain something, make something up to fill in the blanks. Proof of that is all too evident in the way we talk to one another. If one person is talking to another and a question is asked to which they do now know the answer, we verbalize "umm, er.., uhh." to fill in the blanks of what we cannot explain, we always feel a need to fill in the blanks even if we have nothing comprehensive to fill them with. So the bible is basically a massive compilation of the umms,uhhs and er's of man over a thousandish year span. Let it be remembered that man at one point thought god was responsible for the rising of the sun in the day and the moon coming out at night; but science has proven a much more realistic answer for that.

that book has survived alot longer and through alot more than any of us ever could,,,

I pray that people learn to embrace and study about their creator as fervently as they study His creation,,,,

Oh the irony. Science has only brought mankind on the brink of extinction.

Overpopulation, global warming and dwindling resources , all the results of science, has set up the worst case scernario for the widest possible suffering.

Also inventing biological fairytales such as evolution, and supporting it through missinformation and humanist propaganda, is the biggest scientific fraud since the Peking man.

The Peking man was a complete fraud but sat in a museum and influenced thought about human evolution, for 40 years.

Think of that, a lie, a forgery hailed as the greatest proof of evolution.

Lies like that are still influencing thinking even today, Abiogenesis, beneficial mutations are just as bogus but just as influential.

That is what I see Christians doing constantly. When something scares them, or overwhelms them or when they get hit with a load of their own causal karma, they all start begging and crying and praying to the Lord God Almighty to save them.

And they ask others to pray for them too, as if the number of prayers to God make a difference.

Hey, its cause and effect. Take your medicine and stop whining.

I hope this debate does not escalate to the NANANABOOBOO stage

What do you think the golden calf was all about?


I had no idea why it was in the image of a calf or bull. But the gold I understood...

Yes, they are all bull, but what gets me are the people who believe it actually happened as it is written in Joshua and they make excuses for the bloody genocide saying that God ordered it and they think that is Okay because the people were "evil" or idol worshipers, or inbred with Satan or aliens etc.

Whatever they believe about the people that were supposed to have been killed in the book of Joshua, it means that they could believe (or do believe) that same thing about people in the world today and they are the kind of people who will justify war in the name of their Gods.

Alien or imaginary Gods... they will kill people who do not believe as they do or who worship another God not approved by them.

Insanity at its finest.

I am not going to get into the delusional excuses MADE FOR GOD ..for the story of slaughter in the Book of Joshua because it is all fiction anyway. It is a good example though, of how dictators (Character played by Joshua) control their idiot followers and manipulate them to wage war on people so they can plunder and steal their stuff.

God did not give the land to Joshua. He took it through plunder an murder.

And I said:

Don't ever dare tell me that God ordered it, and don't preach to me that this same "God" spoke to someone and enlisted men to do his killing for him.

And don't tell me that this is 'The wrath of God' or that the people slaughtered were "evil." (Or idol worshipers)

If you dare to tell me these things I will surmise that you are TOTALLY insane to believe such fiction, and more insane to preach it, and more insane to believe and sanction genocide of those people.

(And Christian wonder why there is war in this world. They need only to LOOK AT WHAT NONSENSE THEY BELIEVE.)

HE does not answer to his creation,, thats why

HE does HIS work not the work of mortal conscience,,,