I didn't say anything about anybody sinning!!! Why is that so hard to comprehend?

I saw the edit after I posted my reply. Then I had to eat dinner.

Lindyy says: I have God on MY SIDE!

I'm happy for you, again, must be nice, Lindyy, you have god on your side, the laws in your favor, really really must be a good feeling. I sincerely understand why you wouldn't want to have to share that with just anyone......

Please show the link to the indictment that says that Obama knew this.

Obama does NOT carry sooooooooooooooooooooo much corruption around with him.

I don't believe Obama knew... he has entirely to much at risk to get involved in such things. He's not an idiot.

I'm going to open a can of worms here. I'm going to talk religion. I don't usually do that.

This is my opinion:

God made everything and everybody. That means that God made hermaphrodites, gay people and straight people.

dang Lindy...I see you're still hanging in their...lol...good luck...you'll need it...

Because christians keep wanting to turn their views into my laws.

Lyndee you can say what you want, no one will stop you. But when you make political moves to get gay marriage banned, that is asking the government to create a law to endorse a religious perspective . . . which is forbidden by our constitution and rightly so.

Might we be angry with the lack of willingness to reconsider some of the teachings that have caused so much pain in those that don't believe as you do, etc?. Or the unwillingness to acknowledge that slavery and wife beating and other atrocities in the bible were wrong to condone, and that it is very possible that because they were condoned that you might also have been believing bad information about people like gays that you really know nothing about?

Do you have any idea how many young kids have taken their own lives because they have no one to go to with their secret that they were gay? I personally blame religion for their lost lives and self righteous followers who assume the know the mind of God. I blame religion for forcing men and women to be given no choice but to marry only to have to divorce years later because they could not longer deny who they were.

The church blames the gay partner for not being honest. But the church put them in that position in the first place by demanding that they obey god..

If they wanted to be accepted by their church and family they had to be something they were not. Do you know how many young people are thrown from their homes with no ability to care for themselves because their Christian parents disown them?

Is that Christianity being attacked? Or is it the followers, or both?

Yes we are upset, and more upset that you don't have a clue why...

All behaviors are linked to the chemistry and function of the brain and its protein synthesis.

I dont know why anyone would think attraction is any different.


I couldn't find the study I really wanted to find, that showed a particular protein that is encoded within men and woman. But the only men that have it are gay, and the woman who have it are nymphos. Basically this protein receptor increases the desire for the masculine characteristics.

You know what is funny (at least to me), before I started studying to be a scientist I really have to admit to being a bit of a homophobe, I think its developed as any heterosexual male during adolescence.

However as I have learned more and more about physiology I really cant judge people based on behavior like I once did.

To understand (generally speaking) is to accept.


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Here are some articles I found. I will see if I can find the one I mentioned above and post it, because that really was the clincher for me.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080617151845.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080103135205.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030613075252.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080708173226.htm

The last one is not on homosexuality, but is on chemicals within the brain and how they effect behavior so to me it is relevant.


Keep your beliefs from effecting other peoples lives and your beliefs wont come into it.
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AND, I say: Keep your beliefs from effecting other peoples lives and your beliefs wont come into it.

First Amendment of the USA Constitution, freedom of speech and religion applies to everyone, NOT just people who oppose Christianity...........

they all know what's really happening in they're system, and hope they don't get caught...that's all.

Can we go back to talking about Freddie Mercury? I liked that part of the conversation better

Maybe God should have used CAPS LOCK?

You are saying Sodom and Gomorrah was all about homosexuals eh? What do you think about this take?

From http://www.religioustolerance.org/hombibg194.htm

Conservative Christians: Many believe that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis 19, like passages elsewhere in the Bible, refers to homosexuality as a forbidden, detestable practice deserving of the most serious punishment -- not only death to those attempting the homosexual act but also a mini-genocide of the entire cities of Sodom and Gomorrah including adults, youths, children, and infants. God created the institution of heterosexual marriage as the only valid relationship for humans within which sexual activity can be performed without sin.
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Liberal Christians: Many believe that texts in Genesis and the rest of the Bible make it clear that Sodom was punished because of the violent, abusive, inhospitable, greedy, and unsympathetic behavior of its citizens towards visitors, widows, the poor and other disadvantaged persons. Liberals often interpret Genesis 19 as condemning homosexual rape simply because it is rape. It would then be consistent with Deuteronomy 22:25-29 which condemns heterosexual rape. The passage does not impact on consensual homosexual activities between consenting adults, and is totally unrelated to loving, committed, same-sex relationships, civil unions and marriages. Most religious liberals are are faced with the inescapable and rather surprising conclusion that the condemned activities in Sodom probably had nothing to do with sodomy -- i.e. anal sex. As one Christian editor wrote: "To suggest that Sodom and Gomorrah is about homosexual sex is an analysis of about as much worth as suggesting that the story of Jonah and the whale is a treatise on fishing." 1

There is ironic aspect to this passage that is rarely discussed: To judge by other biblical references to Sodom, God seems to condemn the citizens for insensitive treatment and harassment of others. But, this is the very passage that many conservative and some mainline Christian faith groups use to verbally attack gays and lesbians.

The real story of Sodom may well have involved a mob who mistook the angels for ordinary humans. Driven by fear, suspicion, and/or hatred there intent was to humiliate, by rape, what they assumed were stranger people visiting their city. The Sodom situation has many parallels to gay-bashing today, with homophobes trying to assault gay and lesbian strangers.

seriously why do some of u all here care so much??? I dont!!!!!! let people do watever they want!!! its a free country!!!

Biblical based arguments have come up as well. The Bible speaks quite clearly in it's prohibitions against some behaviors think about murder or adultery. These activities get more than one mention. On the issue of homosexuality the Bible is somewhat vague.

That justifies torture?