Eph 4:31

31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: (KJV)

Col 3:8

8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. (KJV)

1 Tim 2:8

8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. (KJV)

Titus 1:7

7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; (KJV)

James 1:19-20

19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. (KJV)

1 Tim 6:17-19

Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.



2 Corinthians 9:6-7

Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Acts 4:31-37


32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had.

34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales

35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement),

37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles' feet. (NIV)



We should strive to have no needy persons in the body of Christ. Needs are expected, but by continually refusing to help a truly needy brother or sister in Christ, we deny the faith.



I Jn 3:14-18

14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death.

15 Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

16 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers.

17 If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him?

18 Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. (NIV)



Matt 25:40-43

40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,

43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' (NIV)

Indeed, it is a deadly sin to put anything—money, drink, anger, pleasure—before God, so that it is irrelevant whether the lesser good is gold or hot dogs. Because of their greed, the rioters come to a physical death, but this occurs only after pride has caused them to die a spiritual death

Is everybody retarded today? Am I in the twilight zone? WHAT THE HELL? Every sentence must be read in context or it makes no sense. Seriously, I'm writting off the people who are only here to wallow in their own filth. Abra, Rabbit and Funches are no longer worth my time, but none of them said anything so completely stupid as the sentence I quoted above. It stands alone as the epitome of stupidity. I seriously doubt the sanity and intelligence of so many who are posting here. Making childish, patheticly inept arguments, which would be dissected by anyone with a highschool deploma...it's just so sad.

obviously you do not understand

it is not the money that is the sin it is what you do or not do with it that is the sin

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and does it not say in there somewhere it is not up to people to judge the sins of others

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just a thought but hey what do i know

I believe you may need to clean your glasses..True a camel cannot physically fit through the eye of a needle..I believe you have changed that into your own context..and made it your own statement...It was meant as an expression...Like when you go eat at Super China Buffet..and say,"Im full as a tick" a tick isnt very big...You can make of it what you will....It doesnt affect me at any cost...Good luck in your search and study

Are you really that stupid? Meaning you can;t even learn from what is clear right in front of you?

"Intent" is one of the most power factors in the universe! it is what can distinguish between what is right and what is wrong.

And I am not angery with you, just tired of people like you and thier pathetic theories that even when shown clear and valuable learning information, they continue to walk in darkness. basically a waste of time, space and resources.

Let me give you yet another good example of "intent" and why that is so important. A man kills someone..takes another person;s life. Now, there can be several causes. if the man's INTENT was just to kill someone with no just cause...that is called MURDER. However, if the man took another person's life in genuine fear that person was going to kill them orsay a family member, the INTENT was purely self defense.

Now, you have the extact SAME action, but two totally different INTENTS. One is justified, one is not. So INTENT plays a huge factor...CLEARLY.

Now, did any lights turn on?????

I believe He puts trials on us all. So that we can truly have compassion for and relate to others around us. It is not your position to judge others for what they do or no not have...they themselves will answer when the time comes...and if they have shared their wealth and given selflessly....they will be judged accordingly...If they have taken in greed and in lust and been selfish....they will be judged accordingly...it is not for you to decide...nor do I think it is right to argue this here...if you have questions or concerns..seek help elsewhere....and look inside yourself....for only you know what kind of life you live....

LOL..try getting a NEW BRAIN!!! You are basically as dense as a box of rocks, because you MISS THE POINT.

Example..in the USA you have "freedom of speech"..correct? However that does NOT give you the right to run into a crowded theatre and yell "fire".

you must look at the INTENT and in the matter it was written/spoken.

as you say here, that was NOT saying that you possessions are BAD, it was saying basically IF you are tempted to be led by these things, then it is better to NOT have that temptation.

What's pathetic is that you are shown these type of things CLEARLY, yet you still just want to argue. so go take your feeble arguements to a wall and argue as long as you want. Such stupidity is worse than seeking material possessions.

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You really need to understand what you read in the biblical sense before you make comments........God doesn't care if your wealthy....It's how you use that wealth that he cares about......Being wealthy and selfish is not good in the eyes of the Lord....Being wealthy and helping those less fortunate is favorable in God's eyes.

And only God knows the heart of man. The rich can buy it all up but will not enter into heaven that way. Like I said, many different denominations have their views. Not all of them teach the right way. I've been in a church where money was ringing here and there. I know and I've seen. Satan comes in many forms...even through the church.

So, in your mind, it wasn't wrong to rip off people coming to worship in the temple? The wrong was capitalism?

I know someone who bought a TV out of the back of a truck. He got it home and found out it was a brick in the box, not a TV. Was that capitalism, in your mind?

I see that with you, there is no winning. When you are clearly worng, you will continue to argue, because it brings you some sort of pleasure. Not with me anymore. I'm done with you. I only discuss religion with people who are interested in discussing, not children who like to argue to hear their own voice.

Reading everything that goes on in this thread...I must say...it shows how much "us" Christians do not understand the word of God. So many Christians have their view of what God says. Different denominations and different methods of teaching. Does God want us to argue back and forth to figure out who is right and who is wrong? If you "really" want to know the truth, seek God and ask him what a certain scripture means. Religion is a hot topic to debate on and you will get many different point of views. My view on the riches is this...God wants us to be happy in what he gives us. And what he gives us can make us rich or not. It is all the point of view on what makes us rich. People who are rich and are greedy for more money is a sin. People who are rich but give time to give to God (like tithes) and help the people around them is not a sin. If anything, they are being a tool for God to show love. These are my thoughts. But it is better to pray over the word then to interpret what "you" think it means. God bless.

Rabbit,

Jesus had no problems with capitalism, you are adding that to the context. The context is that the money changers were using the opportunity of people coming to the temple to worship to rip the people off. The area of the temple that was reserved for Gentiles was instead used to house livestock, which was then sold at high prices to people who came to the temple to sacrifice. Jesus was mad that people were defiling the temple by cheating those who came to worship there. It had nothing to do with capitalism.

Rabbit.

All well and good.

Your opinion has merit.

However, I also find merit in the argument that American farmers have against global free trade.

Avarice and greed are displayed when foreign producers of crops and food find their way here to compete in unfair advantage with local farmers efforts and livlihoods that are part of this comminity and that is being overlooked in your summation .

How is it then that foreign growers find a better market here than in countries with the greater need?

Surely the shippers and their costs could be removed from the price of goods and find more affordability in other markets with less effort and laborious complications and burden on the bottom line of the financial balance sheets of those doing precisely that.

Your depiction has no relevance with Christianity in the absence of addressing that concern.

I fail to see how it is that such is your abservation when in fact there exists opportunity to remedy all suffering and lack.

Demanding that Chirstianity is culpable decries and ignores that Christianity is in fact the clearest light with which to recognize that such disparaging and glaring inequities are inherent upon man.

It does not fall to Christianity to bear the burdens of avarice and greed and exemplify the impossibilities you associate with adherence to the tenets of the faith.

It speaks to your complete misunderstanding of the light which exposes the problems in the world that are found in Christian doctrine.

It is the condition of man that changes i being born again by the Holy Spirit which hallmarks Christianity.

Please keep that in mind.

Standing on Christianity is unmeritorious and disengenuous in the employ of reasonongs that only elude the imperative within the faith.

Christianity is not the absolution of the problem and depicting it as hypocritical is the ignorance which blinds the attentions of all that burden themselves with excusing its efficacy in the complete and utter misappropriation of the faith which is to offer to man the Holy Spirit to know and be in fellowship and right relationship with God.

To understand Christianity and learn of it can never ignore the prerequisite of the tenets of the faith.

Judging Christianity from an external observation post is simply the stance of one's choice to enter in or not.

It is not the hypocritical excuse for laying all the ills of the world on it.

learn, grow and be at peace.

Completely missing the context. Jesus never got angry with anyone who was rich. You are missing so much in the Bible, is it intentional? I think it must be, because you don't appear to be stupid. Jesus was mad that they were ripping people off in the Temple, not that they were rich. The context makes the whole situation clear, but you ignore the context and replace your own. There are many people who God loved and blessed with great wealth. Solomon, David, Job, Jacob, etc.

Have a good day, sir. May God bless you.

Jesus spoke english?????

You are missing the context, probably intentionally.