Thank you Jess and abra. Many times I find myself at a loss when trying
to explain what I feel is "God". I try to be respectful of others
religion and I always seem to offend them. Perhaps I need to word
myself differently. I try to explain that God to me is not that which
they believe in but something more. It later ends up turned around that
I am athiest and have no beliefs. This, might I add is not true. I do
believe in many things. Thank you for giving me some insight to your
beliefs and your faith. I hope to here from you both agian.

truly
MSD

Abra

I'm sure I will have to re-read your post to completely understand it.
One question that I have right now is do you believe that "God" exsists
in everything, such as, a tree, a person, light, dark, water, rain. Do
you feel the presence of your beliefs in everything around you?

Fanta

WOW Thank you so much. Those are the knids of things that teach in a
positive manner. You have given me much to think about, and I do thank
you. Very much! I hope to hear your voice agian.

enjoying your mind and others,
MSD

Have fun, I know I do.

I believe that has been left up to us to create. We have in this world
so much that has already been created. love, happiness,joy. My heaven
on earth comes in all varieties, depending on the day and how I look at
that day. Agian heaven on earth is created inside ones self based on
actions and how life is taken. To one person, heaven may alrady be here
for them. To another heaven is worth waiting for.

Thank you sctter. That was definanetly on the lighter side.

Thank you TLW, hopefuly more people give me some insight.

about the good things ivolving your beliefs. I do not judge, and I do
not hold my beliefs above those of others. I would appreciate it if we
could listen to eachother and understand the good things that simply
come from just believing in anything. I do not have a specific
religion, so I enjoy learning about others. Please give me some insight
into why you're religion is important to you. I would really enjoy
learning about it.

Thank you for the understanding spider. Your post are lively and
interesting. A mind like yours is a hard one to find, and not one to be
underestimated. I tip my hat to you and yours and hope for more lively
conversation in the future.

truly,
MSD

p.s. many christian holidays were formed,by Constantinople, from pagen
rituals such as; the worship of the evergreen, the easter bunny
spreading fertility to mother earth, and so on. All because the word of
God was spread and causing destruction, because everybody wanted
everybody else to make their god the only god.

Spider

Everybody has their own heaven. My heaven is not yours and yours is not
mine. Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, Wickens, homosexuals,
bi-sexuals, non-believers and many others all have the same right as you
to go to their haven, because they BELIEVE. A belief is a powerful
thing. Without having had a belief at all religion would not have been
started. Then man would have had to find something else to place the
responsibility of creation on. Whether you or I believe things to be
wrong doesn't make them wrong in anybodies eyes but our own. I want to
beable to practice my beliefs, whatever they may be, reagardless of what
those around me believe in.

TLW

with minds like yours,ABs, and many more, this world might began to
understand that the boundries they place on things like religion and
race are placed there by themselves. Perhaps with more like you they'll
began to remove these boundries that have been there for generations and
we will form a more unified world.

truly

MSD

Through this thread I am some what confused. I don't know what TLW's
religion is and I do not know what Spider's religion is, but what I am
hearing from both men is that they believe in a God who understands that
mistakes can be made. Very rarely do people truely live their life to
the T of what we are taught God wants. Any God who is suppossed to be
all forgiving and aawwwwww inspiring should understand in the end that
the belief in anything is what matters, regardless of the name one
chooses to worship it bye.

Jesus was a man who ispired many. I do not doubt that a man such as
him self spread a beatiful idea around the world and created the belief
of a god that would make life after death a beautiful experience. Myths
are things that can become exagerated that are not completely true,
therefor, I also believe he has been turned, by man into the myth we
shall forever know as God. It is not the belief in him or any others
like him who spoke the word of God that will get a person to heaven. It
is the beief in anything, that will make life after death gloriuos.
People shall always be rembered, in this life and the next for how they
lived their life. Your heaven is an extension of your soul, therefor,
no one persons heaven is alike. Jesus is rembered for the knowledge and
wisdom he spread. I thank him for helping us understand that there was
more out there. I do not, however, believe he would respect what we
have turned his teachings into.

Having had two parents that were divorced since before I can remeber,
growing up I didn't agree with it. That was when I was christian and I
believed that in the eyes of god it was wrong, and I thought they would
go to hell. I also thought it was wrong because I wanted to feel like I
always had a whole family.
Since growing up and seeing my parents interact I know it was for the
best. Growing up with them together I would have had a big old broken
family.
I believe that divorce is a descision, same as making the descision to
marry. Things happen, people change. Sometimes it can be fixed, other
times the situation calls for a split.
I don't believe marriage or any relationship is taken seriously
anymore, divorece is just an escape plan to many because they've found
somebody else they want to sleep with or other ridiculous reasons. When
thought of like that I don't agree with it, but if the situation is
abusive, mentaly hurting a child or children, or other serios problems
then I agree with it.

Thanks guys, you've really made me feel welcome.

Ignorance is the hardest thing for me to tolerate. Ignorance being when
you no better and do it anyways. Those of you who have a religion I
admire you for being able to put your trust and beliefs to that purpose
you believe in. Those of you who preach a religion with out full
comprehension and understanding, shame on you! Religion was made, if by
God, to teach that there was something more, it was however, NOT taught
so we would destroy eachother trying to create an absolution that will
probably never exsist. People, no matter what there taught, will form
their own opinion. This is how so many religions have been formed.
Language differences have caused yet more problems. I guess ignorance
comes into play when you have people who tell you what to believe in
without fully comprehending that just because people don't believe in
that religion doesn't mean that their wrong. I would rather have a God
for every single day of the year, and for all types of people as long as
everybody had something to believe in. Until we can learn to except
differences, religous or otherwise, we will never be the people to make
a prospurious world, but will always be the ones to destroy the work
we've alrady done.

I don't know how bright my light would be or what it would take to
really make it shine in those last moments, but according to most faiths
you shine brighter than the light of millions when you've been excepted
into God's arms. Any friend or sister of yours would surely have been
brought to there haven shining unbelievably bright. Have faith and
trust she's safe and happy in his arms now shining with your light, the
light of those who loved her, and His light.

Sorry for your loss

stuck