Spider
"None of us are right, but a hypocrite who rejects the commands of Jesus isn't going to tell me what I'm "being extremely bias" I know I'm not a good person and I haven't said anything about his love for non-Christians and spite for Christians until today, because it's not my place to judge, but TLW needs to know he's not as right with God as he thinks."

Just because he rejects your point of view doesn't mean he rejects Jesus and it doesn't make him a hypocrit. Face it JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY. If he was we would all have been unified by now. God gave us the ability to freely think because we all must come to our own absolution. So, I would really appreciate it if you would stop with the Jesus is the only way. Cause I'm going a totaly differennt path and if I go to sheol then so be it. I'd be happier there then in your absolute heaven.

There's your proof.

Spider
You speak of respect when you insult others for not having your beliefs. Such as TLW, AB, myself. I do thank you for sharing and I am very glad for you that you have found absolution. You say I need to respect you or we're done speaking to one another, but is that because I don't respect you, or because I don't respect your god? My personal feeling is that you'll talk to someone but it's believe may way or get out of it.

MSD

Spider
If that should be our relationship with god, then why do people worship JESUS, who infact was a man. One God means exactly that, 1 GOD. Not two combined but 1. You get on people about not worshiping one god when you yourself worship two: the Father and the Son. No matter how a like they are there are still two of them, correct?

Redykeulous

That was beautifuly put. Thank you.

Spider

do you realize what you just said could be interpurted that you believe their are two gods, The father and The son. If Jesus is God then there should not be "The Father" Should there?

MSD

Completely understand where you're coming from. My mom used to have a poster with the kinds of friends you can have in your life. I can't remeber exactly what it said but it had something about there are those for a day possibly a spring those for a summer and those for all time, friends are like the seasons, they may change, but a friend like you will always stay the same. It was something to that affect. I always loved that poster.

Truly,
MSD

Spider

You need to understand that though somebody may not be right with YOUR "God" doesn't make them not right with theirs. TLW chooses to love all his brothers and sisters regardless of the beliefs they choose to hold. You are cutting yourself off to a world of endless possibilities for a world of people who idolize Jesus and see nothing else! YOU are preventing yourself from understanding the fullness life can have in it because you place yourself fully in the hands of YOUR God. It's your life you are the one who lives it and makes your choices. If God, Jesus, or whoever does exsist they are following, not leading you. Choosing to dump on people doesn't make you or your God better. Any religous teaching will tell you to accept your fellow man not cast him out.

that you meet the people you do for a reason, or is it just some chance occurence?

My entire life I have been well raised. My fathers done a good job. He's taught me to take care of myself, to learn what the world has to teach me, and to do my best to accept all that is around me. I am the person I am because he did not pressure me to think like others, he urged me to think and be different but accept and grow from what others may have to teach me.

I believe that the people you meet help to teach you something, whether it's about your self, the world around you, or whatever else it is that they may have to offer.

The Lonely Walker
I've met you at a time in my life when I thought nobody would listen to me because I was younger. I believe I was suppossed to have met you because you taught me that my age wasn't stopping me from being listened to, it was my insecurites about my age. I thank you friend

JustAnotherChick
Talked to me about her country, the things she grew up with and has told me many stories that I thorourghly enjoyed hearing. I beliene I met her so she could enlighten me on the misfortunes some countries face and the possibilities of things that I may face when I began my journey overseas.

AdventureBegins
Although sometimes diffucult to accept and agree with has made some excellent points, though many may not agree. He's challenged my way of thinking and offered insights on things I didn't fully comprehend before. A challenge is always fun to overcome, but AB sometimes you keep coming back for more. Thank you.

Mikey117
I really needed to meet. He showed me decency that I thought most, if not all the male population seemed to be lacking.

My point is throughout my life I have met many people who have brought me to the path I now walk. Would you agree that those you've meet have been simply by chance, or have you met them for a reason?

I posted this here because many could loop it to fate which many could and would refer back to God, Jesus, etc.

Truly,
MSD

AB somtimes I think you try to be difficult, however, I do believe we have created Jesus to be a false god. I also can understand how others believe in him though.

Truly,
MSD

My thought is definantly The Lonely Walker. He's charming, a good, respectable, descent guy, and I love talking to him.

He's a cutie too.

Phillippa Gregory write amazing historical fiction. I enjoyed her books
so much that I almost changed my major to study the kinds of things she
writes about.

Truly,
MSD

Agian i feel as though this green i'd stranger will save me but yet I
run.

The cave, refuge, noise?
I got to the mouth of the cave in time to see an overly large mutant
clawing away at those damn ape things with wings. This islands has a
secret.

Those animalistic eyes, those green eyes bore through me before i had a
chance to turn and run.

There is no place to run, I'll hide in the rocks.

Footsteps, soft for such a beast, and then nothing...........

I could pull my self up, but how much time did i have? Suddenly the
wall seemed so close, I was weak but I had to do this. What was that
thing? why didit help?

I'm running now, at least that's what i feel like, please tell me this
isn't a dream? The blood will be an easy trail to follow, but the
ocean, it's getting louder. The hallways getting narrow, or I think... I
htink i'm swirving back and fourth. Yep, there's the wall agian, that's
gonna hurt in the morning.

Foot steps,
then huge arms,
a snarling sound,
a leather hand over my mouth muffles my scream,
then darkness, but i'm still awake. I can hear the sound and fel the
arms, it has to be...... over my shoulder i see those eyes.
Wait, what the hells going on.................?

sleep agian, only this time those green eyes are in my mind. To be so
violently abused. Will he come back? Maybe he'll take me and make me
............. these thoughts, what's happening to me have I gone mad? I
must be insane. The markings he left though, it was as though he
claimed me, the animal in him, like lions claim their mates. OK I have
afficialy lost what little mind I had left.

I wake gasping for breath, oh god those green eyes. i'm frozen. (Does
he get off on this or somethining?) "Stop" I choked out. he slammed
himself back agianst the wall and stared, then quietly slipped out, but
those eyes said he'd be back.............

I haven't slept for days, fear making my heart race,nerves shot so
exhausted, my eyes are heavy and the purrs from the ocean are......
wait, I can hear an ocean.New surge of energy, but what to do with it.
They haven't let me out since I got here. My wrist are raw from trying
to get free. I've thought about ending, but I just can't, nomatter what
they do I have to keep fighting. The waves drawl and the wind hits the
tropical trees. I can almost imagine myself out there, free. You know
what I would be doing? Everything Iused to with out complaining.
Those damn waves, I slowly drift off to sleep.

I'm thrown awake so violently that I can almost hear the breaking of my
skin everywhere the chains are. people are here, studing me looking at
me lke I'm meat at a free for all market. I want to scream...... no
sound.... have I gone mute from these terrible days? I feel the blood
welling underneath the chains, my wrist hurt, the chains hurt. But
what's this? The chains are moving, I don't feel so wrapped. AM i
bleeding to death or is this my chance for escape?

There was screaming tonight. The people who looked at me must have takin
somebody else. I'm bleeding worse now, but I think my hands almost freed
from the wrist lock, I can only pray...........

Does this bandana make my ego show?????????

just jokin

truly,
MSD

My goodness, lastnight was eventful. Thank you for sharing, but did you
guys forget that I wanted to learn about faith and beliefs, not about
testosterone levels? Although that taught me a bit. I don't like that
people felt like they had to attack someone or defend themselves because
of a topic I posted. The first two pages were great. They definitely
gave me somethings to think about. These last two pages, however, made
me rethink posting. Now I understand why some people choose to post in
other topics. I am not trying to be rude, but please, please,
please(boys) play nice.

Boredchick

my beliefs, as I've stated before are very hard to explain. I do not
feel that I will find God in a book written by man. So no, I have not
read the bible since I was very young. I also know that I am not one
to preach RELIGION with out an understanding of what I am speaking. I
did not mean to affond any one by my oppinion, I was simply trying to
understand why spider believes so solidly in God and Christ as described
by man and a book for generations in which many things have been
changed. Thank you for sharing. I am continuing to learn many things
about people and there beliefs.

I was four when my parnts divorced. I didn't understand it at all. I
blamed my mom, my dad, and myself. Any child who's parents have been
divorced , even if they don't express it out loud, will feel responsible
in some way. If ther's a lot of arguing, fighting, insults, or physical
abuse kind of things it would be better for everyone involved(especially
the children) to be out of it. Depending on their age you may be
suprised what your kids have to say about it. Just becareful, don't
make the descision too hastily, but don't spend your time dwelling on
should I or shouldn't I. Depending on the situation.

hope I helped
truly
MSD

Spider

sin is obviously stil being comitted and "God's" children are dying
everyday. The way you make it sound is that jesus's death was suppossed
to have paved the way for a completely sinless life. How can you
appreciate the good with out working through and with the bad or sins of
yourself or an individual. Many would not understand happiness and
goodness without the bad. This is an oppinion, I believe if Jesus died
to save us then his death accomplished only the spread of religion and
more death in Gods name. I am not trying to insult I am merely trying
to understand this absolution that you've made.

To the others, I really appreciate the insight regardless of the
specific faith you choose to practice. You all have showed me that it
is not the importance of the name you call it by but the belief that
guides you through your own spirtual journey.