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Topic: Free will or 'Gods' will ?
creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Thu 03/27/08 07:53 AM
Which is it... it cannot be both?

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 03/27/08 07:55 AM
God's will is our free will.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 03/27/08 07:55 AM
free will

SKPCG Joined Mon 03/03/08 Posts: 14708	Thu 03/27/08 07:55 AM
You would need to be more specific, since BOTH free will & God's will exist.

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 03/27/08 07:55 AM
Which is it... it cannot be both? if it was God's will we all might get a long a lil better

laxviking57 Joined Wed 02/06/08 Posts: 2302	Thu 03/27/08 07:56 AM
Free Will... God at times I'm sure is not happy with the decisions that we make but he allows it to happen. If he controled us we would all be robots and that would not make living worth it. I love the fact that tonight when i get off work tonight I can go out and by a ballon of heroin then go out for a drive or I can get off work and go to church... (i will do neither)

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Thu 03/27/08 07:58 AM Edited by yellowrose10 on Thu 03/27/08 07:58 AM
IMHO depends on your beliefs. for ME...God's will for others that don't believe in God...free will it can't be both just not both to one person

Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Thu 03/27/08 07:58 AM
Free Will Silly question

yashafox_F4X1 Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 2079	Thu 03/27/08 07:58 AM
Free will. But I hope we want to do God's will. I think I would like to and I hope that I can. What about you?

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Thu 03/27/08 08:02 AM
If I choose to interview for a position which I am qualified for, but another prays and lands that position as a result of 'God' making it happen, somehow... Then how would the person doing the hiring have any free will? 'God' made that decision, by definition, if 'God' answered the prayer... Which is it...

lilith401 Joined Wed 10/31/07 Posts: 19593	Thu 03/27/08 08:02 AM
Haha! I'm not going there again with you. Good luck this time around!

Jill298 Joined Fri 11/09/07 Posts: 16316	Thu 03/27/08 08:03 AM
If I choose to interview for a position which I am qualified for, but another prays and lands that position as a result of 'God' making it happen, somehow... Then how would the person doing the hiring have any free will? 'God' made that decision, by definition, if 'God' answered the prayer... Which is it... there is no way to prove that someone got the job because they prayed.

yashafox_F4X1 Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 2079	Thu 03/27/08 08:06 AM
It'd be a good choice, I reckon.

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Thu 03/27/08 08:09 AM
lilith: This consideration is a little different than does free will exist... No choice is without influence. This I am sure we can agree upon. 'Gods' will is more the focus, this time around, and whether or not it would negate man's free will...

Peccy Joined Thu 06/28/07 Posts: 17181	Thu 03/27/08 08:10 AM Edited by Peccy on Thu 03/27/08 08:11 AM
So you mean that by simply praying I could get a job I'm under qualified for if I'm a Christian and I believe simply by praying?

lilith401 Joined Wed 10/31/07 Posts: 19593	Thu 03/27/08 08:11 AM
I suppose you are asking if there is fatalism, and if our ability to choose is more a fallacy... a smoke screen for us to think we have free will. Too subjective for me to get involved. But thanks for the opportunity to engage.

yashafox_F4X1 Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 2079	Thu 03/27/08 08:12 AM
I do not believe that God's will negates free will, at least not yet. I believe that in the current age, God gives us free will to chose him or not or to seek him or not as we wish. It's like that interview thing, too. Sometimes he choses us, and sometimes he don't. Life still goes on and we still have to make our choices, God or not.

creativesoul Joined Mon 04/16/07 Posts: 9166	Thu 03/27/08 08:12 AM
Peccy, According to some, this has indeed happened... I just wondered how that all works, when considering free will...

Britty Joined Sat 09/08/07 Posts: 3480	Thu 03/27/08 08:14 AM
Which is it... it cannot be both? I wonder, how do you know it can't be both? perhaps you don't, hence the question. I believe it can, but that's just me.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 03/27/08 08:16 AM
If I choose to interview for a position which I am qualified for, but another prays and lands that position as a result of 'God' making it happen, somehow... Then how would the person doing the hiring have any free will? 'God' made that decision, by definition, if 'God' answered the prayer... Which is it... Sometimes you can make your own decision, and that end up being Gods will.