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Topic: Free will or 'Gods' will ?
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Tue 04/08/08 03:26 AM
Also....Abra... you will not die...... you will live for all eternity....somewhere....cause your spirit and soul lives on....only your earthly house (flesh) dies.


According to the Bible only those who believe in Jesus will have everlasting life.

And in all honestly, I’m seriously not interested. It’s not important to me. Seriously it isn’t.

If I ever get a free ticket to eternity I’ll just give it to someone else who needs more than I do.

After all, it’s the only truly Christian thing to do anyway. :wink:

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Tue 04/08/08 03:33 AM
When are we going to hear another instrumental..:wink:

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Tue 04/08/08 03:46 AM

When are we going to hear another instrumental..:wink:


The "Just Say Hi Dust Bunny Boogie" has instrumentals in it. But I haven't written them into the sheet music program yet. I was thinking about possibly performing them live. We'll have to wait and see on that one. :wink:

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Tue 04/08/08 06:40 AM
flowerforyou Abra----- The simple truth is that some people are closer to "GOD" than others. flowerforyou They come from all walks of life but some people have a more spiritual connection than others.flowerforyou Its kinda like a talent flowerforyou Some people are able to have a deeper understanding of their (and other) religions.flowerforyou

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Tue 04/08/08 09:07 AM
Didn't God create nature?
And the body to heal sometimes on its own?
It still all comes from God...yes?


I was reading some pages from the Urantia book about the life creators who designed the inner workings of the human body that heals itself. It was very interesting how the Urantia book goes into such detail of every aspect of their designs of the universes and the life forms that evolve from the planets. They say that the life designs are always being improved upon but the evolution of life is a natural process.

From my perspective, this book could have been written by an advanced galaxy being, or it could just be a hoax, but there is a lot of information in the writings.... and I'm sure an agenda. It tells a much better story than the Bible. Its more believable anyway. It goes into detail about the life of Jesus, so it seems to have an agenda of re-writing the Christian religion.

JB

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Tue 04/08/08 09:33 AM
BUT.... even though prayers and healings and miracles are taking take place in many different ways, I still as a christian, always give God thanks for it all...for the naturopathic methods I practice.....along with all the other God given wisdom God gives me naturally to follow....cause to me, it all still comes from God, even if there are some who don't believe in God.



What ever it is, it works for anyone who does it in the right way.

Wallace D. Wattles calls it "the thinking stuff" and insists that gratitude is part of the formula for it, and Esther and Jerry Hicks says that the quickest way to open a direct communication with the creative intelligence is gratitude.

Gratitude, faith, intent, visualization, positive thinking, etc. will bring results. This process works because it is the law of attraction and it is how the universe works and was designed to work.

Just as people complain that God has not answered their prayers, so do people criticize the workings of the Law of Attraction simply because they do not know how it works and they are missing some ingredient, hence doing it in such a way that they don't get the results they want. (They get results, but not the ones they want.)

Where it might not work is when you are praying for someone else to change their thinking or belief. Ultimately they are in charge of that, not you or your prayers.

Any change in a person that was the result of prayer will only be temporary unless that person truly wants it.

Yes you can influence a person's thoughts and even his beliefs temporarily with this process. (I tried it once on a person and it worked.) But it was like injecting thoughts into a person who did not want them. It took the man three days to shake them out of his head. It almost sounds like black magic.. and he thought it was. It was more like telepathic hypnotism.

Here is the strange part of that story. The next few days I found him glaring at me. I asked him what was wrong. He kept shaking his head as if he was trying to shake something out of it. The he asked me, "What did you do to me?"

I innocently replied, "Nothing, why? What's wrong?" He explained to me that for the last few days he had been thinking like me, that his thoughts were like my thoughts and that he did not think like that nor did he want to.

Wow, I thought, that's amazing. I never told him that I had done it on purpose or how I did it. But he did shake it off and he returned to his own way of thinking.

I never tried that again, but I did learn that it was possible. I have had telepathy with a few other people I know well too. Telepathy is a natural non-verbal communication that can be developed.

JB


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Tue 04/08/08 04:55 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 04/08/08 05:52 PM
Thoughts can be very powerful......very true Jeannie.flowerforyou
How one thinks ....whether positively or negatively, also affects how a man acts....and even affects him physically.
We are a triune being..all parts need to be in harmony....in oder to become whole and healthy.


Today...I have been meditating on Isaiah....especially the part that says, "By his stripes we are healed".

Personally, I believe if we get the spirit part right(by becoming born again first..and then by eating and meditating on God's Word that contains LIFE, daily ), then the rest of our triune being will line up with God's Word also..and we will become whole.

But it does not and will not happen over night....it usually takes time for healing and wholeness to manifest(unless God chooses to work an instant miracle) .

But, normally healing and becoming whole takes time to fully manifest.......and As we eat and grow daily in the Word, we become stronger and stronger...to where eventually, we are able to overcome sickness and disease..etc..because ...as our inner man becomes strengthened, so does the rest of man's being.

Things happen in the spirit realm that are higher than Man's ways of understanding....but one thing is true.....God's Word does not lie.
God watches over His Word to perform it.

For instance.... in this scripture below...that I have been meditating on today....it says," by his stripes I am healed".

Wow..powerful word.
Gonna keep eating that Word.....any wanna join me?flowerforyou :heart:


One thing for sure.....The Word is definitely NOT just some written words on a page.
If everyone just realized this.

The Word is ALIVE..and sharper than any two edged sword.
Wow.. that's powerful .

If we just could get God's Word in our hearts....more and more and more and more....where it would take root and grow...it could then bring on the full manifestation of healing..or whatever else we are believng God for.

There in lies the key..we have to eat and digest the Word(rhema)..or it just lies on the page(logos).

And that is where a lot of people miss it.. they are reading the word...but it is not becoming life to them, cause they are not digesting the Word.

The word is just passing thru....UNDIGESTED!!laugh
No wonder it doesn't seem to be doing any good for some.

Ah...but if we all could plug into the simple truth of God's Word....and eat and digest the Word daily........there would be HEALTH and LIFE in us all.drinker

What can I say.... I am speechless here today...just thinking about this all.

God's Word is Powerful...and that is why the enemy tries so hard, to keep one from the Word..cause the Truth of the Word sets mans free..and heals..and delivers...and gives life.flowerforyou

Wow..when I think about it all....I am just in Awe of God's Word.
Powerful!!

Here is Isaiah...powerful word for today.......that speaks volumes..if we can only just grasp it all.

And this Word in Isaiah( which prophesied what Jesus did for us..and all came to pass as prophesied).......is saying...

God already bore it all on the cross... our sins....our sicknesses...our diseases.....our infirmities.....He bore it all.....

so I ask myself......what is keeping me from FULLY receiving what He did for me,already ?

:heart: flowerforyou

------------ISAIAH 53-----------------

1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.








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Tue 04/08/08 05:21 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 04/08/08 06:09 PM
So...

What is Keeping me

from Fully Recieving

what Jesus already did on that Cross for me?






The answer is so simple, even a child can understand.


Childlike Faith.flowerforyou

To Believe......

That the Answer is On the Way.....

just because

Abba Father Said So.

No Doubts.flowerforyou

Just

Simple

Childlike Trust.


The Answer

may not come overnight..that's ok....

it may not come tomorrow...that's ok too...

cause child like Faith Believes regardless......

that the Answer is On the Way.


Why?

Simply because

Abba Father Promised.flowerforyou


And a Child of God Knows.....



Abba Father



Does





Not





Lie.flowerforyou

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