Well, we as humans can’t comprehend the many-in-one nature of our true essence.

Pantheism is not solipsism. You don’t need to imagine starvation, poverty, crime, hate, greed, selfishness, etc. You’re sharing a world with many manifestations of the underlying spirit.

Moreover, if you think of this within the context of an external Godhead, it become even more problematic.

If you realize that we are creating the world ourselves then we are responsible for it. If we believe that some external entity has force this world upon us, then clearly it is responsible for it.

Pantheism actually takes responsibility for the dream.

Otherwise, we’re just dust in the wind of someone else’s dream. I suppose that could be true. But if it is true, then that separate dreamer is responsible for the way the world is, and not us.

Pantheism is simply saying, “We’ll take responsibility for our own imaginings”.

Keep in mind that it’s all just a dream. So even the most horrific things that you can imagine, when you finally wake up from the dream you’re going to say, “Oh wow, that was just a dream!”.

Who said you can’t allow yourself to have nightmares. Maybe you got bored of having only sweet dreams all the time so you allow for nightmares?

This picture makes more sense to me than to imagine we are just an ant-farm to an external God who is raising us like pets.

Abra And a cruel master of the ant farm he is, torturing his ants at whim

The wonderful thing about it is that it is not essential that we get to the second grade at the same time. We will all get there eventually.

Some call this step "ascension" to the next level of being.

Some have said that there are two groups of beings living in this, Milky way galaxy. One, is a group who evolve slowly via one incarnation at a time, and the other group evolves quickly, living incarnations simultaneously. (This idea comes from a group called The leading edge research group, and Val V. author of Matrix IV.) It has information about alien beings and the game being played in this galaxy.)

The fast evolving group do not remember their other lives, but the slow evolving group (living one life after another are said to live longer ~and when they die, they are reborn and they retain all their memories from previous lives. In this way they are able to retain all their technology and culture. These are what are called the "alien" races (and there are many) and they mostly populate the rest of the galaxy although there are some living here on earth. They are the advanced beings who may have created humans from the privative natives of the earth.

P.S. Humans only live on the planet earth and have been quarantined from the rest of the galaxy. Earth is the only Planet where telepathic communications is NOT used to communicate.



JB

Dear Abra,

YOU SAY: Keep in mind that it’s all just a dream. So even the most horrific things that you can imagine, when you finally wake up from the dream you’re going to say, “Oh wow, that was just a dream!”.

REPLY: I do so hope this is true when I pass away! That my spiritual being as just entertained itself for the moment to kill boredom.

It could be a logical explanation what you say! I will enjoy the ride to the best of my ability!

Thankyou

Dear Jeannie,

Thank you for the information. I will check into it and see more possibilities of what could have happened.

I will look into the following book:

(This idea comes from a group called The leading edge research group, and Val V. author of Matrix IV.) It has information about alien beings and the game being played in this galaxy.)


Thankyou

(I just found a quote on the leading edge Research Group's website and thought of Abra.)

"The Bible tells us to 'be like God', and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the political behavior of Western Civilization."
- Robert Anton Wilson

Creativesoul,
Maybe…there is a lot of room for ambiguity.
Eating fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and afterward realizing they were naked and hiding from God. There is further documentation of sexual intercourse between spirits and women in Genesis and giants as their offspring back in the day of Noah. The punishment for Eve makes me wonder too.

I pondered and pondered the answer to this question....as I have done throughout this post....I still come up with the same answer every time I look at this thread




NO NO NO


AND NO



nuff said

one only ponder where there is doubt



you say no no no no no
but pondering yes yes yes yes yes
you say no no no no no
but pondering yes yes yes yes yes

Hello Funches,

I hope your weekend was eventful and entertaining. How are your projects coming along?

I am trying to find some knowledge in Norse Mythology. If you have anything to share, I would be grateful. I ask this since you research in mythology at work.

cheers

for instance?



I only research that which may excel beyond the belief those myths that supply the key to actually prove beyond the myth ..as you seen in one of my videos the legend supplied a way to actually activate the chamber

just wanted to smile to everyone

nah an explanation as to why you say God didn't create evil would be better ..because if God is the creator of everything then how can God not be the creator of evil because that would mean the bible is false and that God is not the creator of everything ..

Dear Funches,

Oh I got it now. I misunderstood your profession on your profile. Although it is interesting in what you do I don't see how you will find answers in such studies. It is although possible perhaps possible and perhaps you are much closer in finding the answers them most in that area.

Okay I will find out more on Norse Mythology on my own. I just thought you had a heads up on this already.

Have a great day.

This is so true. To think that people don't get the gist of the Biblical stories is absurd.

God told Joshua that it's ok to mass murder heathens. Do we think for one second that Christians didn’t pick up on that? Many Christians feel very strongly that non-believers are unloved by God and are truly expendable. They’ll ask you to convert and if you aren’t interested they genuinely view you as a heathen who’s opinion doesn’t matter.

They love like the Biblical God loves.

Sure, I love you,.. not go to hell!

They just have very weird sense of love is all. It’s just a word that has no meaning behind it. You don’t cast someone you love into an eternal hellfire. The biblical God is clearly capable of great hatred. It’s in his actions. It’s in the stories. Page after page of a hateful actions.

How can that be ignored?

This has always been a huge debate if religion should stay out of politics. I personally believe it should be seperated, yet for some reason many believe it should be included.

I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his or her opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. Those who denies to another this right, makes a slave of him or herself to their present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it."

Perhaps it is not unusual for every generation to, in one way or another, have a crisis of conscious, of opposing idealogies, that is polarizing and divisive, the one side sure that the other is inspired by the devil.

It is the truly virtuous one that can set aside all prejudice and suspicion when considering another's belief in direct opposition to his own. Unfortunately it is not easily done!

Thomas Paine a favorite of mine lived to see the intrigue and vitriol rampant in the newly United States' first administration.
George Washington oversaw open political warfare and attempted character assassination between his Secretaries of Finance and State, as of Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson respectively.
At odds were the ideas of Federalism (a strong central government) versus Republicanism (less centralized government, power to the states); exactly how it was thought best the new country should be run. But it went further than that. Between Hamilton and Jefferson, it got personal and ugly and here is why it continues today believe it or not.

It became nasty as if they believed in two different Gods.

And it didn't get resolved. I repeat today that it is a debate that exists even now, and shows little sign of abating.

I believe that religion and politics are not discussed in polite company, as it gets personal and ugly. For it follows that if one does, one will eventually come upon another that believes just the opposite, and never the twain shall meet.

It seems as if humanity is both inspired and cursed by religion and politics, it brings together a few against the many, invites dogma, fear, and violence; and is apparently essential, in some fundamental way, for human civilization to exist.

Perhaps within religion and politics lie the essential elements of humanity that haltingly propels civilization; ever stumbling forward.

Perhaps it is not essential as many believe. In the long run I am sure this will be a problem for many years to come.

I am sure there will be many who will give their 2 cents worth of theory into conclusion about how I think of this.

cheers

oh shoot i posted this on the wrong thread! YIkes. lol

will find the site that I wanted to post this on.

My apologizes.

cheers

well it was in simple English..maybe you have problems with conception



maybe you are not as smart as me ..sorry but you yourself admitted that you have problems with simply English concepts




well I insist on not limiting myself to the belief




well "smiless" you should think about getting some type of help ..er..with your research ..I meant aren't you from Germany or live in Germany and yet unfamiluar with their own or your own pagan myths

The creator Gods ~mentioned in the Urantia book~ also committed genocide on a regular basis. They held the opinion that as the creators, they had the right to destroy the lives that they created. After all, they were gods, or they worked for the Godhead, or what ever their jobs were ~they believed they had the right to kill masses of people who they decided were unfit or not good enough.

This is the excuse I hear from some Christians given to me for the killing of the people of Jericho. I was told that God had the right to take life because he had "given" it.

This is just not true. First of all, these creators were not God. Secondly, if this life was imperfect or unwanted by God, then why were they created to begin with? It does not make sense.

Did you know that this kind of mentality exists within the Zionist movement to remove people from the land of Israel?
Did you know that masses of people were exterminated for just this purpose within our own history?

I bring up Jericho and Christians tell me that it should not be an issue because it happened so long ago.?

Huh? Time is irreverent to a god. Anyway this idea and practice of genocide is STILL practiced today, in our own lifetimes. Israel refuses to define their borders, and continues to bomb those people in an effort to drive them out of "the promised land."

And Many Christians continue to support Israel ... because of the Bible. What they don't realize is that today's Israel is a communist country who practices terrorism, murder, and kidnapping. To add to that the "Jewish" people living there are not true dependents of Abraham mentioned in the Bible. Most of them are atheists and most of them don't even practice Judaism. It is all political.

All this because of an obsolete, misunderstood and poorly put together religion called Christianity. They are all still living in the dark ages and they are all still killing each other and supporting genocide in third world countries because of some silly notion that a god has "chosen people." That is so mid evil, it is pure ignorance and pure evil. If you want to say there is such a thing as evil I would say that the propagation of ignorance it it.

Now I apologize to my good Christian friends who I know and love. But that is the way I see it.

Jeannie bean