love ya, babe. Thanks for the understanding. I don't need any more trips to the ER.

A man's back when his shoulders are broad and his waist is not, and he has on an untucked T-shirt and it falls off of his shoulder blades, just so... s'very nice.

Bassman, I see that you are fairly new on this site. Well Bro, I know Hikerchick and the more you are on this site you will know hicker also. And you will also find out that she is certainly not a bitter woman. If that is the impression you got from this thread, well it is not the right one. Hiker is a class lady, one that I am proud to call my friend. We joke around and we get serious at times, but she is not or will ever be a bitter woman that I can tell. I am not coming down on you Bassman, I just wanted to tell you the kind of woman hiker is from my perspective. She is cool!

ok Robin ,, I posted in your other thread "What Men love about Women"

no problem and I hear ya on the ER..

i did too !

Aww sweetie, I am proud to call you my friend as well. I know I was being a baby and a PITA in this thread which is kind of out of character for me, and that is how Bassman perceived me. I think the thread hit a nerve with me and it showed; and I am so happy to have friends like you to support me when I am not on my best behavior and I am letting my soft spots show.

Love to you!

I understand why someone who has never been through it would not understand why I am so skittish. I hate getting stitches, you know? It's easier to pump my own gas.

I saw....((((Tommy))))

No, I'm not saying that you have to be all hearts and flowers....but what you are saying...LOUD AND CLEAR I might ad is Hey, I can do all this stuff myself. Who needs a man?

It's not about the things men do for you. Heck, by the time a man hits 40 he knows that no matter what you do for a woman it's not enough.
A man is looking for intimacy. And I don't mean sex. We can get that anywhere.

And You, Hikerchick.....will not allow a man to get near you. I am a picky guy...but out of all the women here that have posted, you are the only one I would stay away from. And I am not trying to be mean. All I am saying is take a good look at your attitude. It screams MAN HATER. And I know because I was married to one.

Everything!

Well sweets, I am sure that Bassman will find and will in time feel about you the way we do! You are one of the few that make it such a joy to come to this site! Luv ya!

Back to the more positive side of this thread...

1) They way they hold you during that first kiss and you can melt into them.

2) The feel of their hand on the small of your back when they are next to you.

3) Smell of their aftershave while they hug you

4) How they know where your exact ticklish spot is

5) How at the end of a long day when they will hold you for the sake of just holding

Yes.. I could see why you might think that from my posts this evening..but there is more to me than that..this thread hit a nerve for me.. I don't hate men, though..afraid - yes. For good reasons, maybe, maybe not, but there you have it. I am really just looking for friends. Romance frightens me.

Tell you what, Bass, don't lump me in with your ex and I won't lump you in with mine. We are all products of our history, for good or for bad.

((chevy))

And Hiker, I see nothing wrong with be a strong and self sufficient woman, I very much consider myself one. I'm the one that showed my ex-husband how to change the oil in our car, and work most of "My" power tools.

But with most men, they are wired that they are "fixers" and "doers" and I see nothing weak about letting a man do or fix something for you if he wants to.

And just because you're female doesn't mean you have to be the one who bakes cooks and cleans...being in a relationship is taking the other person's strengths (and being grateful for them) and their weaknesses just like they do for you!

Girls Rock!!! And I think you're hiliarious!!!

And for the record, I never said I didn't need a man. I said I didn't need one to gas up my car, cut my wood, take out my trash, etc.

I need one to be my friend and my lover.

Selected reply. You have said a mouthful and wait until we reach 50 and then 60 and still we're treated coldly after years of blood, sweat and yes, even tears.


To rephrase an old psalm from the Bible:
"What is man that thou art not mindful of him,
even though thy cup runneth over
he restoreth thy possessions
he taketh away they garbage
and yet when he looketh not upon other women
thou doth not appreciate him
when he heeds not to temptation
thou doth not thank him
and when he needeth thee most
thou doth not comfort him

Thanks. I spent two hours today talking to a transsexual friend about gender roles. Maybe that has influenced me some.