Topic: Fascism & brainwashing a people
Tom4Uhere's photo
Tue 06/29/21 02:46 PM
how much really people are brainwashed and how much they simply choose to give up their soul and will to the highest bidder?

Perhaps giving up and looking for the easy fast way IS part of the brainwashing strategy?

In compliance its always better to convince the masses to just want to do something rather than take extra steps to make them do it. It make the person think, "well, this is my idea so I am doing this to myself".
But the idea wasn't theirs originally, it was set in motion by strategically manipulating patterns and attitudes in seemingly unrelated areas.

If I want to sell more widgets I can tell you to buy more widgets and you might only buy the widgets you need right now.
But if I place those widgets near some hickeys and tell you there is a sale on hickeys and I drop the price of the widgets by 1 percent and place a sign near the hickeys which tells you hickeys are better when used with widgets, I will sell more widgets.
Tell your friends, hickeys are on sale for buy one get 3 free. You buy all those hickeys and subliminally you wonder if you have enough widgets to go with all those new hickeys so you look and widgets are cheaper than they were before the sale so you buy 3 more.

You didn't set out to buy more widgets when you went to get a deal on hickeys but you ended up coming home with more widgets anyway. Then you bop yourself in the forehead and say "why did I buy more widgets?" never realizing you were conditioned to make that choice over years of similar experiences thrust upon you in an effort to get that exact same response.
It doesn't matter if its directly aimed at you or resulting from you witnessing someone else doing it and acting happy to save face.

The term is "sheeple conditioning" and its much more common than people realize. If you can break away from the constant conditioning and think rationally and decisively you stop falling for the conditioning and it becomes apparent just how many people are trapped by it in this modern world we live in.

"I want it all and I want it right now. Give it to me or I will go find it someplace else!"

There are people who do not get trapped into conditioning but the majority of modern society is filled with people who are trapped, know they are trapped but have no idea how they got that way.

Most of modern society lives beyond their means. Take away credit and people would panic. I've lived that way and I felt trapped, I knew I was trapped but saw no other way to make it in life. Then I was forced to make changes and now I live well within my means and money is not a problem. That didn't happen till I stopped focusing on media. I used to be glued to the TV, addicted to NEWS, facebook and social circles were very important then, I woke up. Now I am in control of my life and couldn't be more content.
I don't fall for the traps like I used to. I don't have to make excuses, apologize for wrong decisions made in the heat of conditioned response.
I can't watch TV anymore, to my rationality it makes no sense, no sense at all.

Yes, we decide what we do in the immediate moment but those decisions are formed based on years of conditioning. Effective brainwashing is brainwashing you can't tell has happened.

𝓓𝓲𝓿𝓮's photo
Sat 07/17/21 04:52 PM
Perhaps giving up and looking for the easy fast way IS part of the brainwashing strategy?

In compliance its always better to convince the masses to just want to do something rather than take extra steps to make them do it. It make the person think, "well, this is my idea so I am doing this to myself".
But the idea wasn't theirs originally, it was set in motion by strategically manipulating patterns and attitudes in seemingly unrelated areas.

If I want to sell more widgets I can tell you to buy more widgets and you might only buy the widgets you need right now.
But if I place those widgets near some hickeys and tell you there is a sale on hickeys and I drop the price of the widgets by 1 percent and place a sign near the hickeys which tells you hickeys are better when used with widgets, I will sell more widgets.
Tell your friends, hickeys are on sale for buy one get 3 free. You buy all those hickeys and subliminally you wonder if you have enough widgets to go with all those new hickeys so you look and widgets are cheaper than they were before the sale so you buy 3 more.

You didn't set out to buy more widgets when you went to get a deal on hickeys but you ended up coming home with more widgets anyway. Then you bop yourself in the forehead and say "why did I buy more widgets?" never realizing you were conditioned to make that choice over years of similar experiences thrust upon you in an effort to get that exact same response.
It doesn't matter if its directly aimed at you or resulting from you witnessing someone else doing it and acting happy to save face.

The term is "sheeple conditioning" and its much more common than people realize. If you can break away from the constant conditioning and think rationally and decisively you stop falling for the conditioning and it becomes apparent just how many people are trapped by it in this modern world we live in.

"I want it all and I want it right now. Give it to me or I will go find it someplace else!"

There are people who do not get trapped into conditioning but the majority of modern society is filled with people who are trapped, know they are trapped but have no idea how they got that way.

Most of modern society lives beyond their means. Take away credit and people would panic. I've lived that way and I felt trapped, I knew I was trapped but saw no other way to make it in life. Then I was forced to make changes and now I live well within my means and money is not a problem. That didn't happen till I stopped focusing on media. I used to be glued to the TV, addicted to NEWS, facebook and social circles were very important then, I woke up. Now I am in control of my life and couldn't be more content.
I don't fall for the traps like I used to. I don't have to make excuses, apologize for wrong decisions made in the heat of conditioned response.
I can't watch TV anymore, to my rationality it makes no sense, no sense at all.

Yes, we decide what we do in the immediate moment but those decisions are formed based on years of conditioning. Effective brainwashing is brainwashing you can't tell has happened.

you still haven't convinced me :wink:

Social media and marketing strategies utilised by capitalists and multinationals are common knowledge..

you say that people who are conscious of being trapped don't know how they got there, well to me appears clearly that they do know that they chose to be there, they chose to be influenced, or they wouldn't know they are trapped to begin with..

simply people decide that the effort required to say no to those influences isn't worth the fight with themselves to get out of their comfort zone..

they value comfort and convenience for doing different would require too big of an effort and / or sacrifice, so why bother?

and it's perfectly ok to me that anyone can chose whether to be influenced or not, for anyone has the right to live their life as they wish..

but just because they chose to be influenced it doesn't mean that they didn't have a choice, or everyone would buy everything they see on sale, promotion or as an easy way of making cash via every single trading app..

we chose which product on sale to buy as we chose which product on sale not to buy

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 07/19/21 08:13 AM

Perhaps giving up and looking for the easy fast way IS part of the brainwashing strategy?

In compliance its always better to convince the masses to just want to do something rather than take extra steps to make them do it. It make the person think, "well, this is my idea so I am doing this to myself".
But the idea wasn't theirs originally, it was set in motion by strategically manipulating patterns and attitudes in seemingly unrelated areas.

If I want to sell more widgets I can tell you to buy more widgets and you might only buy the widgets you need right now.
But if I place those widgets near some hickeys and tell you there is a sale on hickeys and I drop the price of the widgets by 1 percent and place a sign near the hickeys which tells you hickeys are better when used with widgets, I will sell more widgets.
Tell your friends, hickeys are on sale for buy one get 3 free. You buy all those hickeys and subliminally you wonder if you have enough widgets to go with all those new hickeys so you look and widgets are cheaper than they were before the sale so you buy 3 more.

You didn't set out to buy more widgets when you went to get a deal on hickeys but you ended up coming home with more widgets anyway. Then you bop yourself in the forehead and say "why did I buy more widgets?" never realizing you were conditioned to make that choice over years of similar experiences thrust upon you in an effort to get that exact same response.
It doesn't matter if its directly aimed at you or resulting from you witnessing someone else doing it and acting happy to save face.

The term is "sheeple conditioning" and its much more common than people realize. If you can break away from the constant conditioning and think rationally and decisively you stop falling for the conditioning and it becomes apparent just how many people are trapped by it in this modern world we live in.

"I want it all and I want it right now. Give it to me or I will go find it someplace else!"

There are people who do not get trapped into conditioning but the majority of modern society is filled with people who are trapped, know they are trapped but have no idea how they got that way.

Most of modern society lives beyond their means. Take away credit and people would panic. I've lived that way and I felt trapped, I knew I was trapped but saw no other way to make it in life. Then I was forced to make changes and now I live well within my means and money is not a problem. That didn't happen till I stopped focusing on media. I used to be glued to the TV, addicted to NEWS, facebook and social circles were very important then, I woke up. Now I am in control of my life and couldn't be more content.
I don't fall for the traps like I used to. I don't have to make excuses, apologize for wrong decisions made in the heat of conditioned response.
I can't watch TV anymore, to my rationality it makes no sense, no sense at all.

Yes, we decide what we do in the immediate moment but those decisions are formed based on years of conditioning. Effective brainwashing is brainwashing you can't tell has happened.

you still haven't convinced me :wink:

Social media and marketing strategies utilised by capitalists and multinationals are common knowledge..

you say that people who are conscious of being trapped don't know how they got there, well to me appears clearly that they do know that they chose to be there, they chose to be influenced, or they wouldn't know they are trapped to begin with..

simply people decide that the effort required to say no to those influences isn't worth the fight with themselves to get out of their comfort zone..

they value comfort and convenience for doing different would require too big of an effort and / or sacrifice, so why bother?

and it's perfectly ok to me that anyone can chose whether to be influenced or not, for anyone has the right to live their life as they wish..

but just because they chose to be influenced it doesn't mean that they didn't have a choice, or everyone would buy everything they see on sale, promotion or as an easy way of making cash via every single trading app..

we chose which product on sale to buy as we chose which product on sale not to buy

I'll repeat...not everyone is completely oblivious to brainwashing efforts.
Some people become aware after the fact.

Social media and marketing strategies utilised by capitalists and multinationals are common knowledge
In most cases but not all. The well-known tactics are simplistic and easily recognized, however, there are deeper tactics which are not well-known. Plus, exposure of the simple tactics are likely a tactic in itself to refocus away from the deeper methods.
EX: we will give the people reason to focus on that, while we do this where they are not looking. Plus, there's no way to know how many levels of diversion are actually in place.

you say that people who are conscious of being trapped don't know how they got there, well to me appears clearly that they do know that they chose to be there, they chose to be influenced, or they wouldn't know they are trapped to begin with
Some people are decisive. Some people can think rationally. Many people are reactive in life. They do not make decisions based on the reality before them. They react to what they encounter from snap decisions which often lead to undesirable outcomes. Some people 'wake up' after a bit and begin using the reality around them to make their decisions. They 'see' how their delusions manipulate them. Many people remain reactive till they die.

simply people decide that the effort required to say no to those influences isn't worth the fight with themselves to get out of their comfort zone
Isn't that an explanation of brainwashing?
If I can convince you to follow my plan because its easier and gives you comfort would you be willing to try something new which may be realistic but difficult and uncomfortable?
That type of thinking is a higher level of influence which causes people (in general) to think they are acting according to their own wishes. A conditioning which was put in place to support brainwashing efforts.

they value comfort and convenience for doing different would require too big of an effort and / or sacrifice, so why bother?
Not everyone holds true to this belief.
It is a relatively 'new' conviction which prevails in larger, modern societies. If it were a baseline human species trait, all people would be that way. Since only some people are effected, it could be a condition of brainwashing thru influences within that society.
Even so, there are still people within those societies which are not affected. This is because some people are more susceptible to brainwashing methods than others. Likely based on individual intelligence and or reasoning capacity.

and it's perfectly ok to me that anyone can chose whether to be influenced or not, for anyone has the right to live their life as they wish
Choosing to be influenced is not brainwashing, brainwashing is not a choice, its something which is done to you without your knowledge.
There are not many people in societies who are living their lives as they actually wish, that...is a delusion.

but just because they chose to be influenced it doesn't mean that they didn't have a choice, or everyone would buy everything they see on sale, promotion or as an easy way of making cash via every single trading app
Again, everyone is not accurate, its a grouping based on simplistic logic.
People are individuals. People have different motives for the things they do.
The brainwashing strategies and techniques may not be pinpoint efforts.
The brainwashing may have deeper meaning than to merely sell a product.

You watch prime-time TV for 3 or 4 hours per night. You are exposed to certain behaviors resulting in favorable or unfavorable outcomes. You are exposed to warnings which do not align with your actual reality. Night after night you are exposed to these same influences.
It starts to cause you to think certain ways which are not in alignment with your life. You motivate yourself to attempt to gain the same fortunate comes as depicted. You attempt to circumvent unfavorable outcomes based on the examples you witness, night after night.
The problems arise when you do everything you think is right (based on how you have been influenced) and life refuses to work out as expected. It causes stress. Not understanding why you feel stressed out is part of the brainwashing which is being done to you. It keeps you off-kilter just enough to distract you from what you really, actually need to focus on.
Then you become susceptible to marketing influences.

As I said, much of the brainwashing(influence) happens in deeper levels of the mind. It changes the decision rationality ability. You see an egg commercial every night for 3 months, you start craving eggs. You see people buying a Lexus and having a wonderful life every night for 3 months, you start wanting a new car. You might not go out and buy a Lexus but you start thinking you should get a new car, even though there's nothing really wrong with the one you already have. You start to convince yourself you need a new car.
Its like advertisers putting "NEW" on the box. People love to buy something marked as "NEW". What was wrong with the old one? Why did they change it? Did they actually change it or did they merely put "NEW" on the box just to get you to buy it? Why is "NEW" so important to people? Is "NEW" actually better than old? Something has influenced people to value "NEW".

People reacting to implied influence is brainwashing. Not all people react the same to all influences. Majorities which react to certain influences drives brainwashing strategies.

we chose which product on sale to buy as we chose which product on sale not to buy
Most people do. The purchase is not the intent of the influence.
The intent is to cause people to react certain ways to certain key words.
"NEW", "SALE", "SAVINGS" and so on. These words are evident of strategies which have been in place for the last century to cause people to react certain ways. The actual reactive words and phrases change with the times but the fact people are conditioned to react to key words and phrases is a condition of brainwashing. Plus, there are key words and phrases which are not related to marketing which influence people. "HAPPY", "SUCCESSFUL", "TRUSTWORTHY". Words which have intense meaning according to the conditions as they are applied. TRUSTWORTHY candidate, SUCCESSFUL business, HAPPY ever after. Even when people become cynical of these key words and phrases it doesn't minimize the fact they reacted to them.

There are many levels of brainwashing, the simple methods are easy to recognize but can all be recognized as easily by all people?
Sometimes you have to step out of the influence to see what can't be seen.

I stepped away from TV and radio and I see more than I saw while I was being influenced. I'm still part of society, so I'm still being influenced but since I attempt to live in the here and now within the reality before me, I see things many do not.
I've tried watching TV. Its awful to me. It usually pisses me off within a half hour. I see the obvious influences others absorb. Its crazy how influential television has become.
I mainly watch movies. I've been aware of the subliminal influence in movies for quite some time. Luckily, I've fixed that gullible side of me. Living in the here and now helps a lot. Seeing reality as it actually exists also helps a lot. I have less stress, make better decisions and live in contentment.
I've gained control and I refuse to give it up ever again.

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Fri 07/23/21 10:07 AM
I can't say much more than what hasn't been said. The best I can say is to learn to dig out the facts rather than the morals. Once you can do that, you will come to your own conclusions on how the world works. Never-ever let your guard down. Once you're able to dig out the facts, you will naturally want to seek out more factual media. I'm serious in this - stay away from non-interpretive art. The art that tells you not to think is what gets you.




Timothy's photo
Sun 07/25/21 08:10 AM
Anyone else notice the looneys in America drew the line at the 5G conspiracy?
The world can burn, but you will have to pry our phones from our cold dead hands:)

Timothy's photo
Sun 07/25/21 08:11 AM
To stay on topic, unfortunately yes, both are alive and well:(

ivegotthegirth's photo
Sun 07/25/21 09:56 AM
OT & O Titie
Why are some missing the dangerous parallels between this and the state of the Trump cultists now?
We have a large brainwashed part of our population now with incredibly ignorant beliefs following a would be fascist dictator!
Remember what has happened and don't let it happen again..........pitchfork

dust4fun's photo
Sun 07/25/21 12:11 PM

OT & O Titie
Why are some missing the dangerous parallels between this and the state of the Trump cultists now?
We have a large brainwashed part of our population now with incredibly ignorant beliefs following a would be fascist dictator!
Remember what has happened and don't let it happen again..........pitchfork


Here is the issue that many fail to see or understand and therefore become brainwashed in themselves without understanding the bigger picture. There is Trump the person and there is Trump the brand. Trump the person has a few hundred thousand people that follow him like a god, on the other hand millions of true Americans support the Trump brand. If you own a Tesla it doesn't mean idolize Elon, if you buy from Amazon it doesn't mean you think Jeff is a god, if you use Microsoft it doesn't mean you respect Bill, if you only buy Apple it doesn't mean you worship Steve. The Trump brand of make America great again (spin off Reagan) is about the American dream, good jobs, being able to pay your own way, patriotism, rights, and freedom. We have become too dependent on China and others, the majority of jobs in the US are now service based. The Trump brand wants to level the playing field so it makes sense to keep companies in America instead of forcing them to do business elsewhere. The Trump brand is more flexible as far as beliefs in being conservative, or religious, or confirming strictly to far right agenda's. It's kinda like the Tea party movement.
On the other hand the Biden and Democrats because for the most part Biden is just a puppet anyway, they are far more into pushing the propaganda for progressing their socialistic agenda in an effort to control the people. The Robin Hood approach to take from the rich and give to the poor knowing there are far more poor people then rich in order to grow their base and spread their agenda. Trump the person has register as an Democrat, Independent, and Republican, to say he is for just one side or the other contradicts the things he has done. The Democrats have continued to make allegations from election tampering, money laundering, ethics concerns, and so on from the time he was nominated as the Republican candidate in 2016. They spent so much time in doing so they accomplished nothing else, to many an allegation is as serious as a conviction, just another brainwashing tactic. The Democrats thought nothing about bring up allegations of election fraud, but as soon as Trump did so it was take him down anyway we can. Trump did not have to leave the White house when he did, Covid laws were still in effect to block people from being evicted. Now politicians are trying to take away freedom of speech by censoring the internet, once again to spread only their propaganda and blocking the views they oppose. You can even be charged with hate crimes for words you say, the lefties are going to continue to play every card in the deck in order to control the people, and so many of the sheep and puppets out there are going to play right into their trap.

ivegotthegirth's photo
Sun 07/25/21 06:25 PM
The Issue for me is I want nothing to do even remotely with a treasonous,
insurrectionist, elitist, draft dodging lifelong scammer like Trump!

Smartazzjohn's photo
Mon 07/26/21 09:39 AM


OT & O Titie
Why are some missing the dangerous parallels between this and the state of the Trump cultists now?
We have a large brainwashed part of our population now with incredibly ignorant beliefs following a would be fascist dictator!
Remember what has happened and don't let it happen again..........pitchfork


Here is the issue that many fail to see or understand and therefore become brainwashed in themselves without understanding the bigger picture. There is Trump the person and there is Trump the brand. Trump the person has a few hundred thousand people that follow him like a god, on the other hand millions of true Americans support the Trump brand. If you own a Tesla it doesn't mean idolize Elon, if you buy from Amazon it doesn't mean you think Jeff is a god, if you use Microsoft it doesn't mean you respect Bill, if you only buy Apple it doesn't mean you worship Steve. The Trump brand of make America great again (spin off Reagan) is about the American dream, good jobs, being able to pay your own way, patriotism, rights, and freedom. We have become too dependent on China and others, the majority of jobs in the US are now service based. The Trump brand wants to level the playing field so it makes sense to keep companies in America instead of forcing them to do business elsewhere. The Trump brand is more flexible as far as beliefs in being conservative, or religious, or confirming strictly to far right agenda's. It's kinda like the Tea party movement.
On the other hand the Biden and Democrats because for the most part Biden is just a puppet anyway, they are far more into pushing the propaganda for progressing their socialistic agenda in an effort to control the people. The Robin Hood approach to take from the rich and give to the poor knowing there are far more poor people then rich in order to grow their base and spread their agenda. Trump the person has register as an Democrat, Independent, and Republican, to say he is for just one side or the other contradicts the things he has done. The Democrats have continued to make allegations from election tampering, money laundering, ethics concerns, and so on from the time he was nominated as the Republican candidate in 2016. They spent so much time in doing so they accomplished nothing else, to many an allegation is as serious as a conviction, just another brainwashing tactic. The Democrats thought nothing about bring up allegations of election fraud, but as soon as Trump did so it was take him down anyway we can. Trump did not have to leave the White house when he did, Covid laws were still in effect to block people from being evicted. Now politicians are trying to take away freedom of speech by censoring the internet, once again to spread only their propaganda and blocking the views they oppose. You can even be charged with hate crimes for words you say, the lefties are going to continue to play every card in the deck in order to control the people, and so many of the sheep and puppets out there are going to play right into their trap.


Very well said. There are two things I'd like to add.
1) Brainwashed people for the most part DON'T know they've been brainwashed.
2) Those who accuse others are often guilty of their own accusations.

Rock's photo
Mon 08/23/21 06:22 PM
Speech, as well as written word,
can be an excellent indicator
of brainwashing.

For example, the phrase "I am woke",
seems to be the current virtue signalling
mating call of the brainwashed.
Or, simply, the braindead among us.

Any person who is awake, and aware,
(Not brainwashed) wouldn't have the need
to say "I am woke".






Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 08/25/21 09:03 AM
"Woke" and awoke are the PAST TENSE of wake and awake.
"Woke" DOESN'T mean a person is awake NOW.
The "woke" people have been convinced that PAST "systemic racism" still exists in the United States NOW.
If "systemic racism" still existed today I DON'T see it when I go to the store, to a bar, to restaurant or out in public. I DON'T see black people being treated badly at stores or gas stations. When I go to bar or restaurant there AREN'T separate areas for different races.

Does racism still exist? Yes it does, and always will, exist. Is there "systemic racism"? Nope, if "systemic racism" existed it would be evident EVERYWHERE and it ISN'T.

IF "systemic racism" existed in the United States "people of color" WOULDN'T be trying to enter the country illegally......people DON'T go where they will discriminated against. If "systemic racism" did exist in the United States people would be escaping to other counties where they would be treated fairly, and that ISN'T happening.

I'm an actual immigrant, if my family saw the United States as the evil empire the "woke" crowd would have people believe it is we would have NEVER moved HERE. We moved here because there is SYSTEMIC OPPORTUNITY and that is the reason people are STILL coming to the United States, both legally and ILLEGALLY.

Calle's photo
Sat 11/20/21 02:23 AM
It is really sad and insane an Austrian takes the led again against human rights again. Nuremberg code, Helsinki declaration seems to count for nothing many Mengele wannabes. Austria force Vaccines when they are failing.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-austrian-govt-announces-mandatory-covid-vaccination-for-all-citizens/

In video about Austria and also why is Africa manage so well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCGDdaDpgBI

( can this be the answer https://i0.wp.com/noqreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Ivermectin-Africa.jpg?ssl=1

Posted in other threed.https://teamtuckercarlson.com/news/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/2/ )



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Sun 11/21/21 01:21 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 11/21/21 01:22 AM
The thing is Crystal, non vaxers are the minority. You also need to respect the views of the huge majority of us who chose to get vaccinated.
Governments are facing something in this century that is very deadly and new. There is no guidebook here.
I find it very offensive to compare that beast Hitler to Governments who are learning how to deal with this pandemic. It is the most unflattering comparison. He was deluded, a rascist, evil, power tripping and did not care for the people, only his tunnel vision thinking. Apart from a few countries that are extremely corrupt, our Governments are doing their best.

The Enemy is Covid, not Governments.

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Calle's photo
Sun 11/21/21 02:46 AM
Hi Lady wind
In Austria it starting to be comparable to Crystals , it is over the line with mandates for all, our ancestor thought for their rights for a reason. You can´t say this follow Nurnberg code or Helsinki declaration either....
If people have no rights to decide them self what they put in to their body's it is fascism or any bad ism world you like to call it.


Why are Ivermectin banned when it is one of the things that clearly seems to really work. Tell me why vaccine would work when they have not worked in Waterford or Gibraltar? Health dictatorship in many countries, let doctors with alternative solution have there protocols approved and let people decide self.







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Sun 11/21/21 03:43 AM

Hi Lady wind
In Austria it starting to be comparable to Crystals , it is over the line with mandates for all, our ancestor thought for their rights for a reason. You can´t say this follow Nurnberg code or Helsinki declaration either....
If people have no rights to decide them self what they put in to their body's it is fascism or any bad ism world you like to call it.


Why are Ivermectin banned when it is one of the things that clearly seems to really work. Tell me why vaccine would work when they have not worked in Waterford or Gibraltar? Health dictatorship in many countries, let doctors with alternative solution have there protocols approved and let people decide self.









I hear you. I am very sympathetic to those who do not want the vaccine. I work with unvaccinated people. I only got it to protect others, despite my concerns with the speed the vaccination came out. I have friends and family who will not be vaccinated. I respect their rights.
I think we need patience. This Delta has a speed which is terrifying to many. I am sorry your country is mandating everyone to be vaccinated. They do believe they have your best interests at the forefront.
My family joke that soon the vaccinated will be given horns, a tail and special powers soon lol.
I sometimes think that the fear of death is what motivates the unvaccinated. When I received my first vaccination, I put my affairs in order. I have no fear of death to be honest. All who I have wronged, I have apologised to.
May I ask why you do not want to be vaccinated. :grinning:


Calle's photo
Sun 11/21/21 01:35 PM


Hi Lady wind
In Austria it starting to be comparable to Crystals , it is over the line with mandates for all, our ancestor thought for their rights for a reason. You can´t say this follow Nurnberg code or Helsinki declaration either....
If people have no rights to decide them self what they put in to their body's it is fascism or any bad ism world you like to call it.


Why are Ivermectin banned when it is one of the things that clearly seems to really work. Tell me why vaccine would work when they have not worked in Waterford or Gibraltar? Health dictatorship in many countries, let doctors with alternative solution have there protocols approved and let people decide self.









I hear you. I am very sympathetic to those who do not want the vaccine. I work with unvaccinated people. I only got it to protect others, despite my concerns with the speed the vaccination came out. I have friends and family who will not be vaccinated. I respect their rights.
I think we need patience. This Delta has a speed which is terrifying to many. I am sorry your country is mandating everyone to be vaccinated. They do believe they have your best interests at the forefront.
My family joke that soon the vaccinated will be given horns, a tail and special powers soon lol.
I sometimes think that the fear of death is what motivates the unvaccinated. When I received my first vaccination, I put my affairs in order. I have no fear of death to be honest. All who I have wronged, I have apologised to.
May I ask why you do not want to be vaccinated. :grinning:





Like stated in other threads i was cured by alternative medicine from scinn problem normal health cara said where cronic and i know people that have gotten reactions from Vaccines also. I am from Sweden, but sadly i don´t find it good when who boss talk about mandatory Vaccines but huess his sponsors want some for the money. Things dpn´t make seens and things are out of proportion. If you Check article about waterford and Gibraltar it actualy seems like what they before called a leaky vaccine http://epidemics.psu.edu/articles/view/leaky-vaccines-promote-the-transmission-of-more-virulent-virus . Posted one article earlier about likely dna damage from spike-protein here is on more about increasead inflammation from mrna vaccines https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

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Sun 11/21/21 01:36 PM


Hi Lady wind
In Austria it starting to be comparable to Crystals , it is over the line with mandates for all, our ancestor thought for their rights for a reason. You can´t say this follow Nurnberg code or Helsinki declaration either....
If people have no rights to decide them self what they put in to their body's it is fascism or any bad ism world you like to call it.


Why are Ivermectin banned when it is one of the things that clearly seems to really work. Tell me why vaccine would work when they have not worked in Waterford or Gibraltar? Health dictatorship in many countries, let doctors with alternative solution have there protocols approved and let people decide self.









I hear you. I am very sympathetic to those who do not want the vaccine. I work with unvaccinated people. I only got it to protect others, despite my concerns with the speed the vaccination came out. I have friends and family who will not be vaccinated. I respect their rights.
I think we need patience. This Delta has a speed which is terrifying to many. I am sorry your country is mandating everyone to be vaccinated. They do believe they have your best interests at the forefront.
My family joke that soon the vaccinated will be given horns, a tail and special powers soon lol.
I sometimes think that the fear of death is what motivates the unvaccinated. When I received my first vaccination, I put my affairs in order. I have no fear of death to be honest. All who I have wronged, I have apologised to.
May I ask why you do not want to be vaccinated. :grinning:





Like stated in other threads i was cured by alternative medicine from scinn problem normal health cara said where cronic and i know people that have gotten reactions from Vaccines also. I am from Sweden, but sadly i don´t find it good when who boss talk about mandatory Vaccines but huess his sponsors want some for the money. Things dpn´t make seens and things are out of proportion. If you Check article about waterford and Gibraltar it actualy seems like what they before called a leaky vaccine http://epidemics.psu.edu/articles/view/leaky-vaccines-promote-the-transmission-of-more-virulent-virus . Posted one article earlier about likely dna damage from spike-protein here is on more about increasead inflammation from mrna vaccines https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

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Sun 11/21/21 02:57 PM
Calle

India withdrew its use of Ivermectiin and scientists have “repeatedly warned that there is no reliable scientific evidence showing that the drug works against COVID-19. ”

In South Africa ivermectin is available in very limited situations only .

However it is now being imported and sold out of the back of cars, at pharmacies and at doctors' offices. In some cases, it is being handed out for free. Used incorrectly it is toxic and dangerous . I believe , as this article states .. desperation. causes people to ignore medical science .

http://www.npr.org/2021/09/13/1036533173/despite-warnings-south-africans-are-using-an-animal-medication-to-treat-covid-19


I am sure you are also aware that Africa has a very “young” population and does not have urban spread like most other countries .

How would you feel if you required hospitalisation for covid and had to pay for treatment . Realistically that will not happen, (everyone has the right to medical treatment ) but theoretically how would that make you feel ??! Would you change your view of medical science then ?

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Sun 11/21/21 03:33 PM
Wait. We are supposed to rely on Science when it comes to the natural realm? noway