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Sun 08/01/21 01:21 AM
err. wrong game :sweat_smile:

Vibrating

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Sun 08/01/21 01:18 AM
Verdict

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Sun 08/01/21 01:17 AM
Fallacies are widespread and often ruthlessly discriminatory in modern society

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Sun 08/01/21 01:01 AM
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Thu 07/29/21 11:45 AM
Hi Dive :wave: a psychotic person has their own perception of reality .. but given their thought processes are altered and dysfunctional does that mean others would want to acknowledge that reality as valid or trustworthy . Likewise conspiracy theory can be associated with altered thinking so the stability and competence of a personโ€™s cognition and how they rationalise comes into question .

Hi Blondey, thank you for expressing your opinion for that proves exactly the extent of what i was elaborating.

So what's the difference between a dysfunctional mentality and a revolutionary one if not the simple label that one feels entitled to associate to one or the other?

Being the entitlement the product of the image of the society in which one's draws upon his judgment, or a personal set of values forged by parenthood and/or personal experiences, such entitlement is nevertheless just the reflection of one's perspective.

As an example modern society labels the murder of another human as cruel and immoral,
while until the IV century it was not only considered normal, but gladiators games were even considered to be fun and a tribute to wealth and honour.

As another example, always in the IV century Copernicus was banned from his church and considered mad from society for proposing his sun-centered theory whilst everyone still believed that the earth was at the center of our solar system.

It took 300 years before Galileo could prove Copernicus right hence changing our society's perception of Copernicus theories from dysfunctional to revolutionary.

If history teaches us anything at all, is that as humans we are constantly changing and constantly evolving, and that everything we believe to know for sure today, is actually just an illusion, for it will be outdated tomorrow.

Some humans are able to see, understand and embrace the fact that we don't possess all the answers, those who don't possess enough mental elasticity simply satisfy themselves by labelling everything they don't understand for fear of the unknown, the unforeseeable and the unpredictable.

Brainwashed or not, conspiracy manipulated or not, either one helds enough depth and creativity or just compensates with shallowness and hypocrisy.

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Sat 07/17/21 05:12 PM
Months are still to pass by before we'll be free from this virus.

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Sat 07/17/21 05:07 PM
Remote understanding

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Sat 07/17/21 05:05 PM
Value

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Sat 07/17/21 05:02 PM
The bigger picture

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Sat 07/17/21 04:52 PM
Perhaps giving up and looking for the easy fast way IS part of the brainwashing strategy?

In compliance its always better to convince the masses to just want to do something rather than take extra steps to make them do it. It make the person think, "well, this is my idea so I am doing this to myself".
But the idea wasn't theirs originally, it was set in motion by strategically manipulating patterns and attitudes in seemingly unrelated areas.

If I want to sell more widgets I can tell you to buy more widgets and you might only buy the widgets you need right now.
But if I place those widgets near some hickeys and tell you there is a sale on hickeys and I drop the price of the widgets by 1 percent and place a sign near the hickeys which tells you hickeys are better when used with widgets, I will sell more widgets.
Tell your friends, hickeys are on sale for buy one get 3 free. You buy all those hickeys and subliminally you wonder if you have enough widgets to go with all those new hickeys so you look and widgets are cheaper than they were before the sale so you buy 3 more.

You didn't set out to buy more widgets when you went to get a deal on hickeys but you ended up coming home with more widgets anyway. Then you bop yourself in the forehead and say "why did I buy more widgets?" never realizing you were conditioned to make that choice over years of similar experiences thrust upon you in an effort to get that exact same response.
It doesn't matter if its directly aimed at you or resulting from you witnessing someone else doing it and acting happy to save face.

The term is "sheeple conditioning" and its much more common than people realize. If you can break away from the constant conditioning and think rationally and decisively you stop falling for the conditioning and it becomes apparent just how many people are trapped by it in this modern world we live in.

"I want it all and I want it right now. Give it to me or I will go find it someplace else!"

There are people who do not get trapped into conditioning but the majority of modern society is filled with people who are trapped, know they are trapped but have no idea how they got that way.

Most of modern society lives beyond their means. Take away credit and people would panic. I've lived that way and I felt trapped, I knew I was trapped but saw no other way to make it in life. Then I was forced to make changes and now I live well within my means and money is not a problem. That didn't happen till I stopped focusing on media. I used to be glued to the TV, addicted to NEWS, facebook and social circles were very important then, I woke up. Now I am in control of my life and couldn't be more content.
I don't fall for the traps like I used to. I don't have to make excuses, apologize for wrong decisions made in the heat of conditioned response.
I can't watch TV anymore, to my rationality it makes no sense, no sense at all.

Yes, we decide what we do in the immediate moment but those decisions are formed based on years of conditioning. Effective brainwashing is brainwashing you can't tell has happened.

you still haven't convinced me :wink:

Social media and marketing strategies utilised by capitalists and multinationals are common knowledge..

you say that people who are conscious of being trapped don't know how they got there, well to me appears clearly that they do know that they chose to be there, they chose to be influenced, or they wouldn't know they are trapped to begin with..

simply people decide that the effort required to say no to those influences isn't worth the fight with themselves to get out of their comfort zone..

they value comfort and convenience for doing different would require too big of an effort and / or sacrifice, so why bother?

and it's perfectly ok to me that anyone can chose whether to be influenced or not, for anyone has the right to live their life as they wish..

but just because they chose to be influenced it doesn't mean that they didn't have a choice, or everyone would buy everything they see on sale, promotion or as an easy way of making cash via every single trading app..

we chose which product on sale to buy as we chose which product on sale not to buy

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Sat 07/17/21 04:44 PM
Truth is justified by the participants belief.
Reality is actual and requires no justification.

I read the intent of this thread as a focus on conspiracies.
Discussing conspiracy opinion is valid, within the scope of this thread.

If conspiracies are a thing, isn't their scope to effectively alter people's reality?
how can reality then be perceived as undeniable?

if the possibilities are endless, reality is also just a possibility, a perception in someone's mind not duplicated for everyone..

once one digs within the possibility of endless possibilities and manipulation of truth, one must agree that nothing is granted of single perspective..

everything becomes possible and we decide to label as definite or impossible those concepts or situations we are afraid to consider real or possible..

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Sat 07/17/21 04:37 PM
Inspiring

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Wed 06/30/21 01:36 PM
Portable Tantrum Decomposer

KMP

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Torturing

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Opium

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Wed 06/30/21 01:24 PM
Debated were opinions and disagreement has resulted

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Wed 06/30/21 01:14 PM
divorce

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Wed 06/30/21 01:10 PM
wasted time

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Wed 06/30/21 01:07 PM
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Tue 06/29/21 01:25 PM
i might not be as literate on the subject as many in this forum, nor bearer of undeniable proof to sustain my theories, but this is my opinion :

it doesn't matter what we believe in or what proof has been shown to us, and even whether it's real or if it has been photoshopped, censured or manipulated..

if you really seek true answers you might not even be able to trust the events seen with your own eyes, as the possibility of mirages, illusions or distorted images or beliefs might be corrupted..

for as long as it feels entertaining and educational to hear someone profoundly believe that some concepts or their opposite counterparts could be the utter truth about our world and society, to me the only truth relies in the acceptance of the unknown..

most people are simply too scared of what they don't know or what they cannot control in their lives, and that's an undeniable fact of human behaviour..

we should spend more time in training ourselves to stop worrying about things we cannot explain or control, and devote more of our routine onto actively listening to others opinions, especially when they're totally different from ours, to understanding, to appreciating the knowledge we can absorb, and actively do an effort to absorb it..

but mostly we should just consider that any opinion or theory is possible, just for the fact that it has been expressed and it means that it's real in someone else's mind..

it's no use to waste our time worrying if conspiracy theories are real and at what degree, for at the same time they are real and they're not, like Schrรถdinger's cat theory illustrates..

so what if anything could be at the same time real and not, but at least worth of our consideration as well as its counterpart?
everything to exist needs a counterpart, as basis on which to draw upon, so nothing is impossible, unreal or unattainable..

the quest is to find the degree in between that satisfies our beliefs and purposes for as long as it isn't extremist to the point to erase its counterpart from being considered into the equation..

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