Topic: THIS IS THE DEAL
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Thu 12/13/07 04:24 PM




Gustava, have to say I enjoy reading your thoughts. You're usually right-on target.

Thank you. That's not something I generally hear...


maybe you should become a lawyer...or are you?flowerforyou laugh

Heehee. No, I just play one on the internet.


laugh laugh laugh laugh Love it when people can stay light hearted and non judgemental. Can take an opinion and laugh about it. laugh laugh

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Thu 12/13/07 04:35 PM

I'm a sweet, smart, loving girl that would like to date men to find a marriage partner. I want to have children, a family and home.

Honestly, men, your appearance isn't everything. Grooming and dress matter. You should be an affluent professional or successful business person, being able to afford a comfortable home and vacation retreats. Excessive lifestyle isn't necessary rather basic luxuries.

Naturally, I would like a healthy love life but also understand men sometimes like variety. That's ok with me though I probably won't want to hear about it, and as long as you take care of your responsibilities.


can't find fault with your statement savagirl

personally wouldn't want my man zoomin who

Snugglesbyfire's photo
Thu 12/13/07 04:41 PM
May I suggest that you relax, join in the forums, get to know people, begin with friendships.........be happy with where your at in life, and when the time is right you will meet the special one.

Plus no reason for either party to stray in a marriage if you keep things lively, and spiced up.

Start out with

Respect for each other
Friendship
Communication is a must
Trust

Then you will find someone that you truly want to be with, and not just be a trophy piece for that person

This is only my opinion though:smile:

chrish's photo
Thu 12/13/07 04:48 PM

I'm a sweet, smart, loving girl that would like to date men to find a marriage partner. I want to have children, a family and home.

Honestly, men, your appearance isn't everything. Grooming and dress matter. You should be an affluent professional or successful business person, being able to afford a comfortable home and vacation retreats. Excessive lifestyle isn't necessary rather basic luxuries.

Naturally, I would like a healthy love life but also understand men sometimes like variety. That's ok with me though I probably won't want to hear about it, and as long as you take care of your responsibilities.


I'm in love!
Seriously, i long for the simple things in life, but...
In the relativly short time i've been single, i've managed to fall in love with my best friend, seek a quick thrill from a one night stand and lose myself in drink.

Things are never that simple, but you will find someone eventually! Just look at the odds... There are more people out there who have someone than don't. You'll be fine.

Peace,

~C

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Thu 12/13/07 05:48 PM


here's a definition of luxury from princton

the quality possessed by something that is excessively expensive


That definition states NOTHING. Excessive is a relative term. Expensive is a relative term. We know the meaning of poverty.


My definition is better than princeton's. I'm sticking with it.

Luxury is the absence of poverty.


I think that ends the discussion right there. Savagirl obviously thinks that a man being a good provider means that he should be able to provide that which is unecessary... because her spoiled mindset believes that the unecessary is necessary. Nothing short of a religious/philosophical epiphany can change her mind.
"My definition is better than princeton's."
LOL love it.

Jess642's photo
Thu 12/13/07 06:20 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Thu 12/13/07 06:23 PM
Well, this brought out the fangs and claws, didn't it?


All it has really shown to the reader, is that some are less flexible than others.

bigsmile

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Thu 12/13/07 10:22 PM
i too am looking for someone to buy me a vacation home.

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Thu 12/13/07 10:28 PM
Thank you Snuggles and Chris.

To all, I don't really understand the hatefulness been expressed here by many of you. I hope only this will demonstrate to other members some of the values we each hold.

Now, I will go vomit to purge myself of this filth and faithlessness. Some and most of you though not everyone who posted here don't really seem like relationship or family material. It is sad that you are parents.


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Thu 12/13/07 10:35 PM
Let me say again i understand where savagirl is coming from....she want's a man to be able to provide for her family. She is just brutally honest about it. A lot of countries this is exactly the way they view marriages. Just not the same view in the united states. The most intresting part though is too things that keep getting mentioned that are dodged everytime...

1. She says prenups are insulting, because by getting one she beleives there is a lack of trust that the marriage will work.

2. She says he wants him to be COMMITTED to FAMILY an MARRIAGE completly...every girl wants this what confuses me is she keeps dodging the question about WHAT IF he lost everything would SHE KEEP COMMITTED? if the answer is no....than all she wants is a gravy train. But if the answer is yes than she has the same views as many other countries out there....a man is the provider the women is in the home. Fidelity or lack thereof is of no concern but if he is married it is his JOB to provide. It is a very traditional view that is shared by millions in this world abiet not in the U.S

But she keeps saying stuff like 'well he'll be smart enough to pull out of it'. So i'm going to rephrase the question and ask you. Is LOVE important in the relationship? if so..i'm going to give you a scenoria that is hard to back out of. Let's say you find this man...he is everything you wanted..the best provider you can ask for....ontop of that he loves you enough to never cheat on you because you are exactly what he wants. Let's say he gets into a car accident and loses everything....End's up in a wheelchair and can no longer provide for you. Do you stay? do you take care of him? or do you split and run because he's no longer that 'provider?'. Don't get me wrong...he get's disablitly but it is 1/4 of what you are use too..he comes up with solutions to stay....like moving into a mobile home where the mortage is cheaper....Do you move in with him? or are you too shallow?

chrish's photo
Fri 12/14/07 05:49 AM

Now, I will go vomit to purge myself of this filth and faithlessness. Some and most of you though not everyone who posted here don't really seem like relationship or family material. It is sad that you are parents.


Here, borrow my bucket, I've just hosed it out.

Gustava's photo
Fri 12/14/07 11:57 AM

...Some and most of you though not everyone who posted here don't really seem like relationship or family material. It is sad that you are parents.

It's sad that you are most likely going to breed... another generation of materialistic spoiled brats coming up!

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Fri 12/14/07 03:39 PM

Thank you Snuggles and Chris.

To all, I don't really understand the hatefulness been expressed here by many of you. I hope only this will demonstrate to other members some of the values we each hold.

Now, I will go vomit to purge myself of this filth and faithlessness. Some and most of you though not everyone who posted here don't really seem like relationship or family material. It is sad that you are parents.




Hey don't cut us down about being parents until you have seen our kids.... I raised my kids alone even though I was with my husband, and they are great. Think you need to rethink your opoin on parents and their kids until you know them personally.

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Fri 12/14/07 03:51 PM
wow... can someone lock this thread.. i can't believe this girl is still debating this

Reenie's photo
Fri 12/14/07 04:51 PM


I represent more traditional family values and I guess I'm a girl that was never made to become accustomed to living in a mobile home. I couldn't do that so I could not consider dating a man of those means. I don't mean to put anyone down. I'm pretty much a christian, not to bring religion into it, so don't start:smile:


How can you call yourself a Christian and think the way you do? Materialism...Infidelity....Thats exactly what Christianity is NOT about.

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Fri 12/14/07 04:54 PM



I represent more traditional family values and I guess I'm a girl that was never made to become accustomed to living in a mobile home. I couldn't do that so I could not consider dating a man of those means. I don't mean to put anyone down. I'm pretty much a christian, not to bring religion into it, so don't start:smile:


How can you call yourself a Christian and think the way you do? Materialism...Infidelity....Thats exactly what Christianity is NOT about.


well yea gotta have tha finance to at least afford a a house or a nice place to live it, other than this i wont attack this girl
but she is kinda talkin fantasy

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Fri 12/14/07 06:53 PM
Ummm, wow!

I think I need to borrow the bucket from this whole thread.

Savagirl, I hope you do get what you want in life. Realize that a marriage takes two to make it work. I have to disagree with the letting your man have variety. As said earlier, this is how STD's are transferred.

You live in one of the most beautiful cities in the country and are young. Get out and enjoy yourself. Finish your degree, travel, find a fun job, then worry about the marriage and family.

:smile: M


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Fri 12/14/07 11:13 PM


...Some and most of you though not everyone who posted here don't really seem like relationship or family material. It is sad that you are parents.

It's sad that you are most likely going to breed... another generation of materialistic spoiled brats coming up!


I agree with gustava on this.

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Fri 12/14/07 11:22 PM
Sometimes being too specific can hurt you. Yes, everybody wants financial stability, but it is hard to maintain it. A person will have flaws, everybody does. I admire you for pointing out what you want, but you should not cut down others because of what they choose in life.

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Sat 12/15/07 12:06 AM
I've already stated before that people's preferences are their own.

One of the issues with traditional families is something I'm very well aware of. Why do I want the woman I marry to have a job and be employed? Because a big part of marriage to me is kids, and if something should happen to me I'd want those kids taken care of.

I came from a good family, my dad was a doctor with a private practice pulling in well over 200K after tax living in a somewhat rural community where living expenses were dirt cheap. My mom did go to college, she does have a degree. When my dad passed away what kind of job do you think my mom could get when she has no resume, no work experience and is in her 50's? It doesn't matter how educated you are, if you don't have work experience and you're up there in age, you are not particularly employable. At least I was lucky in that I was finishing up college and my sister had graduated when he passed. My parents were also not the type to want a luxurious lifestyle, they saved their money, they didn't charter yatchs, they didn't buy luxury cars like BMWs or Benzs. 200K doesn't stretch as far as people think it does, you still can't go around blowing money all the time if you want to build safety and security for your family.


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Sat 12/15/07 12:25 AM

I'm a sweet, smart, loving girl that would like to date men to find a marriage partner. I want to have children, a family and home.

Honestly, men, your appearance isn't everything. Grooming and dress matter. You should be an affluent professional or successful business person, being able to afford a comfortable home and vacation retreats. Excessive lifestyle isn't necessary rather basic luxuries.

Naturally, I would like a healthy love life but also understand men sometimes like variety. That's ok with me though I probably won't want to hear about it, and as long as you take care of your responsibilities.


Savagirl, there is a member on here by the name of edukated that you should check out. I think you might be very compatible. Be forewarned, though, "He ain't your *****." glasses