I took it as though he was talking about the Scientologist..

only a crazy christian would think that

I must be crazy, at least im Crazy for Jesus Christ =)

don't worry Jesus can cure anything.....well as long as you are not an amputee

Yup i was burned with grease on the left side of my faced and rushed to the hospital, 12 hours later there are no signs of grease burns, ill remain crazy in my ways

it's funny how you rushed to a hospital and not a church to be healed and then give Jesus credit and not the doctors

Funches are you a Scientologist?

I don't limit myself to beliefs

Well then why so touchy when I point out some problems with Scientology?

it's called sarcasm

Man Funches I thought you were going over to the other side for a minute there.

hey funches, im a Christian....do you think im crazy?
and does scientology make you jump on couches like a crazy person? hmmmm.....

hope your day is going well! hello everyone!!!!((((hugs all around))))

oh no...that would be crazy

hey Winnie..I'm not to sure about you being crazy but clearly delusional

imagine that! LOL ((((funches))))

If I am not mistaken...it is not the bible Christians are called to believe in. The bible was written to assist you in your journey. The literal contexts I am seeing here are some disturbing. The discussions about God and Satan and free will. Hmmmm. An the whole discussion about Job and the meaning God had meant for him. I have read bibles in the US also where they put little paragraphs in the borders to explain what was being said. LOL. Really. I am having some difficulty with this. Translations of translations and literal contexts that were not meant to be literal in todays times. Think on it and get back to me. In doing so, remember Jesus was a Jew.

"I am asking Christians--What do you think? Is this the direction we are moving in? Is it a good move or a bad one? Can we, should we, do we have the right to redefine Christianity?"

Redefining Christianity is not really the answer, I think. Moreso maintaining spirituality in religion and telling the stories from the scriptures in a way that is understandable in todays world. Religion is philosophy and the crux is the personal spiritualism of it all. Elements of todays culture have changed the way we think about things. We have to question ourselves howso,how does it affect our thinking? Are we relying on intuition or reason or both. What do we really believe and why? Are we travelling in blind faith? The bottom line is that nothing changes the face of good and evil. How do we approach this in a humanistic way? How do Christians think and live in a now multicultural world with many philosophies. Some have it right in developing the interfaith organizations of many who come together and share these thoughts. From these comings together, good things are done. In a community way, that is what Christians can do. Within smaller circles and by ones own, personal spiritual growth can flourish with more thought. Even among Christians...there are many philosophies. Experience, rote learning, intuition, reasoning, personal spiritualism all are elements that affect the bottom line philosophy of each individual. No one the same. Perhaps with likenesses. Given that, redefining Christianity is not the question.

Redefining Christianity involves an invocation to God.

Asking God to redefine the relationship the Christian has with God through the Holy Spirit would involve rescinding His promises.

Removing access to the Father in Christ through the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus is an error.

Changing the prayer life of man with God is something done by men that don't know or don't care to know what God holds in store for them.

Christianity is a fundamentally sound way of life.

Churchianity is smoke and mirrors to the skeptic.

The pontification of possibility, plausibility and palpability by skeptics , scorners and spinners accomplishes to only confuse, convolute and contravene truth.




Christianity will continue unabated and will proliferate just as it always has, does and will through the daily witness of its menbers that show forth the praises of Almighty God in their daily lives to the world around them. The voracity of the victorious life is discovered in the witness of the overcomer of trials and tribulations that life provides. The example to model for the neighbor in a Christian's life is the access with power to overcome adversity with joy and peace and to experience first hand, the grace and tender mercies of a loving and living Saviour, redeemer, healer, provider and friend
in whom is a vast and endless reservoir of kindness, love, inspiration and consolation through friendship, fellowship and achievement realized with an incomparable fullness of unspeakable joy.

Seek to find, ask to receive, love without fear, approach without fear and unbelief and all that is available is made manifest through the faithfulness of Almighty God.


World without end. Amen.

BillingsDreamer, I commend you on a post worthy of discussion. As I read down through the thread, I did notice that no reply contained one single reference from Scripture. What a sad state a professing Christian must be in without the Word.

Look to Romans 4:3. The apostle Paul asks an all-important question, "For what saith the Scripture?" I know of only one who was born that didn't need to learn. We were given the Scriptures to learn of the things of God. Man will always have an opinion. However, THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT CHANGE BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT CHANGE. God is perfect and doesn't need to change. If he needed to change, then that would mean that He needed to improve something. If He needed to improve something, He isn't perfect, and therefore not the true and holy God. Depend not on the words of man Christians! Men will fail were God cannot. Look to 1 Timothy 1:4 "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."

Think for a moment of those who WANT to change Scripture. Do we, as the creatED, have any right to change the word of God? Look at John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." This obviously, is a reference to Christ. So tell me, dear soul, who can change Christ? If you believe you can, study this, 1 John 5:10 "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son."

Sadly, the majority of preaching today is trying to convince you to believe in an ineffectual God. I beg of you to listen dear Christians! The Holy Father is not one who will be transformed into some lonely old man, sitting in the heavens, hoping you will believe in His Son! Likewise, Christ isn't One who is wandering about, trying to get you to believe in His cause! You can scoff, you can mock and you can question all you want. This is one promise I can tell you that is true, Romans 14:11 "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." For all who doubt, you don't HAVE to believ, but YOU WILL.

For those who have made it this far in my post, grace and peace be with you. Now comes my challenge to you. Romans 10:11 "For the Scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." Mark 16:15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."

May God's grace be with you according to His good and perfect will.