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 insert making a "dummy face"...duhhhhhhh.............That does not make sense. But....carry on. Everyone wants proof of God. Why doesn't anyone want proof of whatever it is you believe caused this great thing we call earth and life? Give ME proof of something different. I listen. I research. I can also copy and paste. Kat 
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i could ask a 5 year old and get a more accurate representation of truth Ah, now you might be onto something! |
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to bad, it's not up to us to be judges, only GOD, which is a good thing. All I can say to funches and toastedoranges and those that don't see the light is, "Hope ya got a good pair of asbestos underwear and have a nice trip"
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to bad, it's not up to us to be judges, only GOD, which is a good thing. All I can say to funches and toastedoranges and those that don't see the light is, "Hope ya got a good pair of asbestos underwear and have a nice trip" believing alone isn't enough to save your soul, bud. and as far as i'm concerned if i go to hell when i'm a better person than my church folk, **** it. i don't want to be anywhere else if "god" doesn't judge based on deeds and personality, just on blind belief seems like a ****ty system to me |
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to bad, it's not up to us to be judges, only GOD, which is a good thing. All I can say to funches and toastedoranges and those that don't see the light is, "Hope ya got a good pair of asbestos underwear and have a nice trip" believing alone isn't enough to save your soul, bud. and as far as i'm concerned if i go to hell when i'm a better person than my church folk, **** it. i don't want to be anywhere else if "god" doesn't judge based on deeds and personality, just on blind belief seems like a ****ty system to me That is exactly what is meant by believing. Not just blind belief, but....in your everyday living. It is about the who of you and the what of you. Your heart and example. Kat |
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to bad, it's not up to us to be judges, only GOD, which is a good thing. All I can say to funches and toastedoranges and those that don't see the light is, "Hope ya got a good pair of asbestos underwear and have a nice trip" For an omnibenevolent, omniamorous, omnipotent, and omniscient being to fault me for my rational disbelief, and toss me into a lake of fire and brimstone for eternity seems rather bizarre and reprehensible. I would think this God of yours would be smart enough, capable enough and loving enough to realize how critically minded yet reasonable I am. And as such, given me the necessary and sufficient evidence to warrant belief in him and his son Jesus--unless he really doesn't want a "relationship" with me, and prefers I go to hell. That seems like a pretty evil thing to do though. Hmmm... 
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Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others.
So those who judge that others are going to need asbestos underwear are apparently sealing their own fate.  |
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Jesus said that we will be judged as we judge others. With that in mind, I just want to take a second to tell you that I find you all incredibly intelligent, amusing, and fascinating. "Aspestos underwear" huh? Seems we will be heating somewhat unevenly, no? Wow. Interesting... 
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TO Abra and Anoasis:
 TO ANYONE WHO CARES TO ANSWER: Has any Christian (praying in Jesus name of course) ever asked God to extinguish the flames of hell? If not, why not? He's supposedly "all loving", "all good" and "all powerful". Is that beyond even him? Why not give the nonbelievers a break, ask God to forgive us as many of you seem to do everyday, and let us in heaven when we die? Or do many of you need the doctrine of hell to feel vindicated for the wrongs done to you in life? Does someone have to pay? If so, why? |
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TO Abra and Anoasis: TO ANYONE WHO CARES TO ANSWER: Has any Christian (praying in Jesus name of course) ever asked God to extinguish the flames of hell? If not, why not? He's supposedly "all loving", "all good" and "all powerful". Is that beyond even him? Why not give the nonbelievers a break, ask God to forgive us as many of you seem to do everyday, and let us in heaven when we die? Or do many of you need the doctrine of hell to feel vindicated for the wrongs done to you in life? Does someone have to pay? If so, why? The score is now: You-1 They-5 |
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Science is not perfect. While science and biblical words are in fact together in truth. Now...science is not perfect, nor is it always factual. This world as described in the bible and also known to us by science has to have been an intelligent design. Nowhere can perfection be found other than here on this earth. Think about it; the placement of the stars, the moon, the exact spacing from other planets to let the earth flourish, and human and animal life to exist. The perfect combination of gases to enable us to have oxygen and nourishment for the plant life to live. The perfect combination of minerals and nutrients for the earth to feed all the life in holds. The perfect temperatures of the Oceans to give back life as it does. The perfect temperatures to hold and keep life. No other planet does this? Is this really supposed to have just been chance all at once? Kat Kat...the original question is not disputing who or what created the universe, the original question simply ask does the same logic you just applied that the creation of the universe must be by an intelligent designer also apply to that intelligent designer ..and if the answer is no..then could you give a rational explanation as to why |
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Everyone wants proof of God. Why doesn't anyone want proof of whatever it is you believe caused this great thing we call earth and life? well "Kat" the existence of the Earth and life on it is not in dispute...what's in dispute is that an enitiy that is unseen and incomprehensible created it all |
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i could ask a 5 year old and get a more accurate representation of truth Ah, now you might be onto something! probably because a 5 year old has not been conditioned to parrot the expected answers |
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TO Abra and Anoasis: TO ANYONE WHO CARES TO ANSWER: Has any Christian (praying in Jesus name of course) ever asked God to extinguish the flames of hell? If not, why not? He's supposedly "all loving", "all good" and "all powerful". Is that beyond even him? Why not give the nonbelievers a break, ask God to forgive us as many of you seem to do everyday, and let us in heaven when we die? Or do many of you need the doctrine of hell to feel vindicated for the wrongs done to you in life? Does someone have to pay? If so, why? Maybe if you think of God more like a Father, it would help. Are you a father? When you raise your kids, do they believe Ol dad and respect you for what your trying to pound into their sometimes knuckle headed brains? Do you not have to lay out the rules, attempt to enforce them, and allow your children to suffer the consequences of their own actions? Does this action show that you are an unloving father or a loving one? Does this make you a bad dad? I have never prayed for God to extinguish the flames of hell. Why? I never felt a need to. I prayed that my own father would extinguish his own wrath, but that never seemed to help and I got my butt blistered anyway. "Is that beyond even Him?" Obviously not if He is all powerful. I ask God to forgive me, and the nonbelievers, however it's not my place to let you into heaven. I personally don't need to be vindicated for the wrongs done to me. I either punch their lights out or forgive. Sorry, just being realistic. I too have the choice of right or wrong. Does someone have to pay? Pay for what? Making poor decisions with consequences attached? I think we all do, don't you? For years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He calmly backs out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone? |
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Has any Christian (praying in Jesus name of course) ever asked God to extinguish the flames of hell? If not, why not? He's supposedly "all loving", "all good" and "all powerful". Is that beyond even him? Interesting thought Whiteboy. I used to be a Christian (still am according to technicalities), I’ve never prayed “in Jesus name” in my life. I’ve always prayed directly to God. I guess I never really bought into there being more than one God, or a need for a middle man. I just assumed that Jesus was an incarnation of God. If he was a different entity than God then that throws a whole wrench in the soup. The whole ‘son of God’ thing never made any sense to me. Especially in fact of the fact that I had always been taught that we are all children of God and that he is suppose to be our heavenly father. So what sense does it make to start talking about favored children??? In any case, I always prayed to God to save the world first, then come see me for personal favors later. I’m still waiting for him to answer my first prayer. Evidently it was a bit much for him to deal with. But I’m a patient man, and I’m still waiting. I’m not in any hurry to go anywhere. Whenever he gets a round tuit is fine with me. It’s his universe. Oh, by the way, I never really thought about asking him to quench the flames of hell. I never really believed in hell to begin with. I see no reason to believe that he wouldn’t welcome non-believers into heaven. There’s nowhere in the bible where it says otherwise despite what people may claim. People are just idiots for the most part, that’s all there is to that. If he’ll accept idiots into heaven I imagine he’ll accept the intelligent people too. After all, he’ll probably enjoy having someone around that he can actually converse with. |
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to bad, it's not up to us to be judges, only GOD, which is a good thing. All I can say to funches and toastedoranges and those that don't see the light is, "Hope ya got a good pair of asbestos underwear and have a nice trip" well "SharpShooter" remember the Jews are the chosen ones ..so I think you should invest in a couple of pairs of fire resisant fruit of the looms ..or convert to judaism |
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For years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He calmly backs out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone? OH PLEASE! I think you need to take a good look at the difference between “God” and ignorant fanatical radicals that try to use the public school system to proselytize their negative bigoted attitudes down the throats of other people’s children in public schools. THAT’S who got kicked out of the school systems! Not God. Only the devil worshipers who use God as an excuse to preach their blasphemous bigotry.  |
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Has any Christian (praying in Jesus name of course) ever asked God to extinguish the flames of hell? If not, why not? He's supposedly "all loving", "all good" and "all powerful". Is that beyond even him? Interesting thought Whiteboy. I used to be a Christian (still am according to technicalities), I’ve never prayed “in Jesus name” in my life. I’ve always prayed directly to God. I guess I never really bought into there being more than one God, or a need for a middle man. I just assumed that Jesus was an incarnation of God. If he was a different entity than God then that throws a whole wrench in the soup. The whole ‘son of God’ thing never made any sense to me. Especially in fact of the fact that I had always been taught that we are all children of God and that he is suppose to be our heavenly father. So what sense does it make to start talking about favored children??? In any case, I always prayed to God to save the world first, then come see me for personal favors later. I’m still waiting for him to answer my first prayer. Evidently it was a bit much for him to deal with. But I’m a patient man, and I’m still waiting. I’m not in any hurry to go anywhere. Whenever he gets a round tuit is fine with me. It’s his universe. Oh, by the way, I never really thought about asking him to quench the flames of hell. I never really believed in hell to begin with. I see no reason to believe that he wouldn’t welcome non-believers into heaven. There’s nowhere in the bible where it says otherwise despite what people may claim. People are just idiots for the most part, that’s all there is to that. If he’ll accept idiots into heaven I imagine he’ll accept the intelligent people too. After all, he’ll probably enjoy having someone around that he can actually converse with. So, you used to be a Christian? When you look back to the time when you decided you've had enough, tell me, who was it that hurt you? Sounds like "church people" to me. |
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So, you used to be a Christian? When you look back to the time when you decided you've had enough, tell me, who was it that hurt you? Sounds like "church people" to me. You’re jumping to some huge conclusions here. I didn’t abandon Christian for emotional reasons. I actually decided to teach it and when I began to seriously study it in detail I realized that it didn’t make any sense. My reason for rejecting it is purely intellectual. . I’ve come to the conclusion that it simply can’t be true. The Bible clearly contradicts itself, it contradicts the observed universe, and to be perfectly frank about it, it’s simply too absurd to be from any supreme all-wise creator. I’m completely 100% certain that the Bible is in fact false. It’s manmade mythology. I’m as certain about this as I am about anything that I know. It’s not even a question for me anymore. No emotion required. It’s entirely an intellectual observation. It can’t possibly be true. Period. |
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So, you used to be a Christian? When you look back to the time when you decided you've had enough, tell me, who was it that hurt you? Sounds like "church people" to me. You’re jumping to some huge conclusions here. I didn’t abandon Christian for emotional reasons. I actually decided to teach it and when I began to seriously study it in detail I realized that it didn’t make any sense. My reason for rejecting it is purely intellectual. . I’ve come to the conclusion that it simply can’t be true. The Bible clearly contradicts itself, it contradicts the observed universe, and to be perfectly frank about it, it’s simply too absurd to be from any supreme all-wise creator. I’m completely 100% certain that the Bible is in fact false. It’s manmade mythology. I’m as certain about this as I am about anything that I know. It’s not even a question for me anymore. No emotion required. It’s entirely an intellectual observation. It can’t possibly be true. Period. You are an atheist? |
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