Topic: Evolution: Prove me wrong!
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Mon 12/10/07 09:24 AM
So please tell me where is the proof of Creation???

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Mon 12/10/07 09:24 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 12/10/07 09:28 AM

u c spider most of the people who have argued with u on this b4 r not here bcause we really dont know what else there is 2 tell u, i believe i have in the past posted PAGES of evolutionn theory 2 various christians and all u do is ignore it and say "no that doesnt prove anything la la la la la i love jesus" etc etc and really im still philosophically wiped from tearing feralcatlady down on "cration vrs evolution 3" (u people cant even spell tsk tsk)
have fun with the fresh meat


I'll tell the kettle that the pot says she's black.

I count 10 spelling errors in your post, that's ignoring the grammatical errors.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:26 AM


azrae1l,

Okay, but that's not the point of this thread. I am SICK of being told that I am ignorant and uneducated. Therefore, I want one of the people here who constantly dumps on Christians to try to refute my OP.


they have tried but you refrain from responding because you would have to admit there is no "Free Will" for evolution to take place ..and that is the flaw in the bible ...you can't claim everyone has Free Will and then deny evolution from it


Evolution has nothing to do with free will. The theory of evolution never says "A lizard decided to fly, so it turned into a bird". This is what I was talking about when I asked for no stupid arguments.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:26 AM

So please tell me where is the proof of Creation???


No, I'm not playing that game. I made my statement, now you refute what I said. Show me all the mighty evidence you have for evolution. Show me how my OP is scientifically inaccurate.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:27 AM
spider:

What would you attribute to the fact that humans use so little of the capacity of the human brain?


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Mon 12/10/07 09:28 AM

So please tell me where is the proof of Creation???


For the faithful, we don't need proof;^]

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Mon 12/10/07 09:29 AM

spider:

What would you attribute to the fact that humans use so little of the capacity of the human brain?




A complete misunderstanding. 10% of the brain is used for thought, 90% is used for wiring. Humans use 100% of our brains, this is common knowledge in Psychology and Medicine, but outside of those fields, people still believe that only 10% of the brain is used.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:30 AM
Edited by lizardking19 on Mon 12/10/07 09:30 AM
i think that something very funny is if creationism were ever proved, it would prove that god created a flawed/limited universe and as such is not all powerful
and leet speak does not count as bad spelling

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Mon 12/10/07 09:32 AM


So please tell me where is the proof of Creation???


No, I'm not playing that game. I made my statement, now you refute what I said. Show me all the mighty evidence you have for evolution. Show me how my OP is scientifically inaccurate.


Just asking. You seem so sure of your OP I was curious why "cause the bible says so" refutes what hundreds of scientist say?

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Mon 12/10/07 09:33 AM

i think that something very funny is if creationism were ever proved, it would prove that god created a flawed/limited universe and as such is not all powerful
and leet speak does not count as bad spelling



Yes, it does.

Is "evolutionn" leet speak?

Your premise is disproven in Genesis 3, if you read it, it will save a Christian the time for explaining that to you.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:34 AM



So please tell me where is the proof of Creation???


No, I'm not playing that game. I made my statement, now you refute what I said. Show me all the mighty evidence you have for evolution. Show me how my OP is scientifically inaccurate.


Just asking. You seem so sure of your OP I was curious why "cause the bible says so" refutes what hundreds of scientist say?



This is simply dishonest. My OP clearly states what science KNOWS. I said that what science knows about speciation is supported by the Bible. I didn't use the Bible as my source. Be intellectually honest or please don't participate.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:35 AM
using the bible to justify itself only convinces those who already believe in it

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Mon 12/10/07 09:35 AM

i think that something very funny is if creationism were ever proved, it would prove that god created a flawed/limited universe and as such is not all powerful
and leet speak does not count as bad spelling



Of course, there's the arguement of can you have good without bad? It's hard if not impossible to understand Gods plan, but that's ok because I have faith in his plan;^]

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Mon 12/10/07 09:36 AM
Edited by creativesoul on Mon 12/10/07 09:40 AM
spider wrote:

A complete misunderstanding. 10% of the brain is used for thought, 90% is used for wiring. Humans use 100% of our brains, this is common knowledge in Psychology and Medicine, but outside of those fields, people still believe that only 10% of the brain is used.


<<<<<<< I love psychology :wink: , consciously use... the true capabilities are yet to be understood... It truly surprises me that you would choose to use psychology as a considered source of knowledge...>>>>>>>


<<<<<<< Again, to what do you attribute this?>>>>>>>

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Mon 12/10/07 09:39 AM


spider:

The information on mice you just presented is the very reason science uses mice as 'guinea pigs' for experiments, as you well know. The ratio between humans and great apes is more along the 99 pct. range is it not?


We don't know that, no great ape has ever had it's DNA fully mapped.

Also, if we accept that life has a creator, then we will assume that the creator would use a similar process for all of his creations. Mice are 85% like humans. Some vegtables are around 50% human DNA. It's because all life has the same creator and same building materials, not because of evolution.


And yet your portion of the answer you gave is proving evolution more than the creation. If DNA is so similar, evolution is proven more than the one creator creating all in different forms. So you are proving yourself wrong with the answer you give.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:40 AM



azrae1l,

Okay, but that's not the point of this thread. I am SICK of being told that I am ignorant and uneducated. Therefore, I want one of the people here who constantly dumps on Christians to try to refute my OP.


they have tried but you refrain from responding because you would have to admit there is no "Free Will" for evolution to take place ..and that is the flaw in the bible ...you can't claim everyone has Free Will and then deny evolution from it


Evolution has nothing to do with free will. The theory of evolution never says "A lizard decided to fly, so it turned into a bird". This is what I was talking about when I asked for no stupid arguments.


wow spidercmb maybe you should read more about the subject before you try to debate it...

the theory of evolution say that birds (that can fly) decended from dinosaurs (lizards) ...so is that "Free Will" or not

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Mon 12/10/07 09:41 AM

using the bible to justify itself only convinces those who already believe in it


But you presented a question about Christian theology: "i think that something very funny is if creationism were ever proved, it would prove that god created a flawed/limited universe and as such is not all powerful" Such a question or problem can only be answered using the Bible. You didn't ask a physics or biology question. You specifically presented a perceived problem with Christian theology and anyone who is reasonable would admit that a theology question can only be answered within the contraints of that theology.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:43 AM

wow spidercmb maybe you should read more about the subject before you try to debate it...

the theory of evolution say that birds (that can fly) decended from dinosaurs (lizards) ...so is that "Free Will" or not


NO, IT'S NOT.

Nothing decides to evolve. The theory of evolution is that evolution is a non-directed change to the genome of a species. It has nothing to do with free will, no decisions are made.

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Mon 12/10/07 09:44 AM
Why is it that so many threads turn into an insult of peoples religious beliefs? Are we not evolved enough mentaly to debate the subject without the religious attacks? Can we not agree to disagree on such things?;^[

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Mon 12/10/07 09:44 AM

And yet your portion of the answer you gave is proving evolution more than the creation. If DNA is so similar, evolution is proven more than the one creator creating all in different forms. So you are proving yourself wrong with the answer you give.


In your opinion. The evidence doesn't support either conclusion.