except that wasn't my question

I will ask it again but more clearer this time


Do you think welfare recipients collecting only welfare, not subsidized, but there only source of income is the government should be saving to go on vacations?

again, I will repeat, it depends on the vacation. If its gonna be a 20 dollar tank of gas to another town with relatives, why not? If its gonna be a 1000 dollar cruise, of course not.

this is my fault for not being clear... breathe, grab a sip of green tea.


Okay , lets try again

Vacation as in a cruise ship, or a tropical vacation lets say Bermuda from the USA.

I understand what you're saying diserli,
It's the same here as I've said with many things.
How would it be right for someone on welfare to go on holiday/vacation and someone who is working and fending for there family not afford to go?

mikey and that is my point, and I dont know if she is being naive or just saying it for sh-its and giggles.

such a cruise would not fit the budget of someone on strictly a welfare budget, so no.

because its not a competition. If people want to take some time down, they have to find it in their resources to do so, working or not. Working people cant 'afford' things only if they arent resourceful enough to figure out how to get them .. at least thats the logic of how simple it is for people on welfare with kids to find work and take care of their children by themself without assistance.

take responsibility and make it happen with what you have.

I will never begrudge another person taking time down, even if I have decided to spend my budget in other places.

Boy the heat has been crazy this summer so far, I was working on some railing at some apartments this week actually 3 days this week and it was so
Hot and muggy that I had sweat pouring off me at one point I had to scratch my *** cause it itched. But after that I started working again and I got hot again and of course I started sweating. Again..I know this may be a little off topic but I guess it doesn't matter . Get the point!

but there have been people that has done vacation on a welfare budget .

can you say Fraud??

lol , Trump and media is gonna have tangents to discuss all the other people and things that are worse or more of a concern ...

of course, I dont know any of them. Im sure when they are PROVEN To have done so, the law handles it.

uh huh.

Just curious: are you saying that because less than one percent of people who get benefits in this area, manage to abuse their status and actually profit, that all help to everyone who actually needs it should be ended?

I remember you as Mr testsignup from DH, anyways to answer your question, let say I accept your number of less than 1% other reports says its closer to less than 1.5% but lets not argue over numbers

Nowhere have I said and you can re read my posts that Ive ever advocated not helping those who actually needs it.

my concern is to eliminate the fraud that goes on, whether its less than 1%, .5% or 1.5%, that is a lot of people, and it needs to get to the people who actually needs it.

Before you say yeah yeah Mr right winger what about corporate subsidies and corporate welfare?

My answer : no corporations needs subsidies,corporate welfare, tax breaks today, the days of Alexander Hamilton are long gone.

No more bailouts, corporate welfare, tax breaks etc.

Although I did say if a company/corporation employs a minimum of 50 people paying them a living wage they should get a tax break, that is the exception but its only a pipe dream I'm afraid.

Actually you are wrong, the media if you look, cnn portrays him as a nut, fox loves him. why the ratings. 2 days after he was elected someone was paying someone to gather bystanders and do marches against him in a lot of the cites. you can blog it. it was all over craiglist, a certain party pays 15 an hour to march against trump.


Tell you the truth trump is doing a very good job, trying to do something with the debt. other countries don't get it. If the us does not start paying down their debt, there goes their military. Us is in g7 but yet rest of the countries like Canada does not even have a good military its a joke. so the us been doing things on its own for years. where is the rest of the g7 not there.

so yes i agree with trump,
as for what he has to after Obama messed thing up. first time ever Russia has a base by Israel. also he gave a whole airplane of money to Iran, then Iran turned around and gave the money to terrorists like Hezbollah. Israel had to blow up bases inside of Syria cause Iran was on its doorstop and firing micelles in Israel. No oboma was the worst useless president in history of the states. he was a talker but never did anyting. not even after iran got its plane load of money and shouted death to America. no one said anything.

as for trump he only gets paid 1 cent a year for doing his job. he said he does not need the money. Why would anyone want a job as the president after oboma is beyond me.

as for trudoue , what he did was stupid. he was silent at the g7 meeting, very submissive. why did he not talk to trump, no i heard he was so proud of giving out more money so that wemon has an education from other counties. Why didn't he talk to trump about taffifs, that is what a meeting is for. then when he shook hands with trump, what he did was stupid. like a grade 4 person soon as someone's back was turned and left the meeting. he said Canada will not tolerate. Is trudoue scared of talking. all he could think of is education..

We have real problems in the world, and the g7 is not pulling its weight. un is a joke.

as for trudoue he ordered two subs, they cant even float and that was years ago. as for ui its very hard to get it. you cant rely on it. everyone i talked to gets turned down.

and yet Christian bible prophecy is slowly coming true. No you cant stop it, yet few, watch it and the things that are coming to pass is exciting yet few notices it. this too is the way it will be in the end days.

i am done on this topic.

brutal, without control, lover of money, boastful, proud, headstrong, haughty


most of the attributes can be found in your typical politics discussion ... and many politicians words ...

And mankind..since the beginning of time..and if I am questioned come judgement day as to why I did the things I did ..I will simply say "don't blame me it was your design flaw"...

People are talking about fraud but April going on a cruise while on welfare is perfectly legal. Let me give her some credit. She tried to have her tubes tied after baby #2 but they wouldn't let her because she was under 21. She was pregnant again when she turned 21. She was also married to an illegal. When he got his citizenship he left for another mexican.

April them married a guy with 4 kids. She had 3. He worked but they got welfare and $10,000 a a year in Eic. She isn't ambition so she didn't work even though the kids were all teenagers. The kids are grown now and last I heard she was divorced and working on getting disability to keep checks coming. Even though she has never worked lol.

People are claiming you stay poor because you are born poor. My dad died and I was raised by a single parent. April had a step dad and in a 2 parent home. April's mom would starve before she would work and April is the same way. Nothing was holding them back. They wanted to be stay at home mom's with luxuries. April did a pretty good job of achieving that on tax payers dime.

I was a single mom working 6 and 7 days a week and didn't get any help. Like I said before, it's set up where people needing help can't get it. It benefits the lazy, unambitious, breeders.