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WorldWarZeke
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I always make the first move... as long as the moonwalk is considered the first move. thats backwards if i do remember right  I do it to leave an impressive lasting impression. |
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My question is does it really matter as long as the end result is eternal love. if we dont analyze then anything and nothing wont matter at all just the happiness that being together brings 
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You quack me up!
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You quack me up! me ? 
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I always like making the first move when playing chess....
Not so much in checkers though... Lol..... and when two of us are reaching for the last donut on the plate... I always offere it up to the other person first... it avoids that whole grabby grabby thing...lol |
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I always like making the first move when playing chess.... Not so much in checkers though... Lol..... and when two of us are reaching for the last donut on the plate... I always offere it up to the other person first... it avoids that whole grabby grabby thing...lol looks like somebody did made the first move and counting up the numbers best of luck doc
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there is no definite right time then? not even a hint when you have to be the first to say hello? not even a clue when you have to put your own guard down? no sign when you have to be the first one to say you care or vice versa? What do you mean by "first move"? If it's to make first contact, it's quite simple: Woman has to give the guy a sign that she's interested first. This was true in the "Scarlet O'Hara" day (Gone with the Wind) and still is valid today. You have to let a guy know you are interested in him so he knows the chances of making a fool out of himself are very slim. Yes, male egos are far more fragile than females, believe it or not. So if you see a guy you like and he happens to look at you, even if it's briefly, smile at him. Guys are thick, and will think you are smiling at someone else, so you'll have to do it again. Keep the eye-contact and smile. Hold that eye-contact for preferably 10 seconds, which feels like eternity. But if you do that, the guy will know you are smiling at him and not the bloke behind him. If he doesn't look at you and you like him, you can say hello. Or ask a question, for instance, "I don't know what coffee/cake is good here. Can you help me out?" Best not do that when you are with friends, because then the risk for him is too high. If you happen to not like him, he'll feel like an idiot in front of you and all your friends. And one of your friends could even make a nasty comment, making him feel even worse. So best to do this sort of thing on your own or after you walked away from your friends. Remember: only 10% of men are confident enough to just walk up to a girl and see if she's interested, regardless of her giving a sign or being with her friends. Only 10%.... The rest won't, so you'll have to help them along a wee bit. Smile or say hi and then let him be a man and do the rest of the work. Crystal I love this, thanks! And I didn't realize that about only 10% of men being confident enough to approach you. Sure makes me feel a whole lot better than I did when I figured they just weren't interested. I know, I was quite shocked as well when I found out. I think we are all given the wrong idea, based on movies and novels maybe? The 'macho heroes' usually just go for it. Somehow most women think men will do the work without her having to do anything. But that ain't true, it never has been. In olden times the damsel 'accidentally' dropped her lace kerchief in front of the man she fancied so he knew he could safely pursue her without getting rejected. Men need rejection-protection, meaning you drop your kerchief, which these days is smile, say hello, ask his help or whatever. |
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there is no definite right time then? not even a hint when you have to be the first to say hello? not even a clue when you have to put your own guard down? no sign when you have to be the first one to say you care or vice versa? What do you mean by "first move"? If it's to make first contact, it's quite simple: Woman has to give the guy a sign that she's interested first. This was true in the "Scarlet O'Hara" day (Gone with the Wind) and still is valid today. You have to let a guy know you are interested in him so he knows the chances of making a fool out of himself are very slim. Yes, male egos are far more fragile than females, believe it or not. So if you see a guy you like and he happens to look at you, even if it's briefly, smile at him. Guys are thick, and will think you are smiling at someone else, so you'll have to do it again. Keep the eye-contact and smile. Hold that eye-contact for preferably 10 seconds, which feels like eternity. But if you do that, the guy will know you are smiling at him and not the bloke behind him. If he doesn't look at you and you like him, you can say hello. Or ask a question, for instance, "I don't know what coffee/cake is good here. Can you help me out?" Best not do that when you are with friends, because then the risk for him is too high. If you happen to not like him, he'll feel like an idiot in front of you and all your friends. And one of your friends could even make a nasty comment, making him feel even worse. So best to do this sort of thing on your own or after you walked away from your friends. Remember: only 10% of men are confident enough to just walk up to a girl and see if she's interested, regardless of her giving a sign or being with her friends. Only 10%.... The rest won't, so you'll have to help them along a wee bit. Smile or say hi and then let him be a man and do the rest of the work. Crystal I love this, thanks! And I didn't realize that about only 10% of men being confident enough to approach you. Sure makes me feel a whole lot better than I did when I figured they just weren't interested. I know, I was quite shocked as well when I found out. I think we are all given the wrong idea, based on movies and novels maybe? The 'macho heroes' usually just go for it. Somehow most women think men will do the work without her having to do anything. But that ain't true, it never has been. In olden times the damsel 'accidentally' dropped her lace kerchief in front of the man she fancied so he knew he could safely pursue her without getting rejected. Men need rejection-protection, meaning you drop your kerchief, which these days is smile, say hello, ask his help or whatever. Crystal  any guy relative at least pls? 
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there is no definite right time then? not even a hint when you have to be the first to say hello? not even a clue when you have to put your own guard down? no sign when you have to be the first one to say you care or vice versa? What do you mean by "first move"? If it's to make first contact, it's quite simple: Woman has to give the guy a sign that she's interested first. This was true in the "Scarlet O'Hara" day (Gone with the Wind) and still is valid today. You have to let a guy know you are interested in him so he knows the chances of making a fool out of himself are very slim. Yes, male egos are far more fragile than females, believe it or not. So if you see a guy you like and he happens to look at you, even if it's briefly, smile at him. Guys are thick, and will think you are smiling at someone else, so you'll have to do it again. Keep the eye-contact and smile. Hold that eye-contact for preferably 10 seconds, which feels like eternity. But if you do that, the guy will know you are smiling at him and not the bloke behind him. If he doesn't look at you and you like him, you can say hello. Or ask a question, for instance, "I don't know what coffee/cake is good here. Can you help me out?" Best not do that when you are with friends, because then the risk for him is too high. If you happen to not like him, he'll feel like an idiot in front of you and all your friends. And one of your friends could even make a nasty comment, making him feel even worse. So best to do this sort of thing on your own or after you walked away from your friends. Remember: only 10% of men are confident enough to just walk up to a girl and see if she's interested, regardless of her giving a sign or being with her friends. Only 10%.... The rest won't, so you'll have to help them along a wee bit. Smile or say hi and then let him be a man and do the rest of the work. Crystal I love this, thanks! And I didn't realize that about only 10% of men being confident enough to approach you. Sure makes me feel a whole lot better than I did when I figured they just weren't interested. I know, I was quite shocked as well when I found out. I think we are all given the wrong idea, based on movies and novels maybe? The 'macho heroes' usually just go for it. Somehow most women think men will do the work without her having to do anything. But that ain't true, it never has been. In olden times the damsel 'accidentally' dropped her lace kerchief in front of the man she fancied so he knew he could safely pursue her without getting rejected. Men need rejection-protection, meaning you drop your kerchief, which these days is smile, say hello, ask his help or whatever. So the other day when the grocery guy wanted to push the cart to my car (well, my bike...I always ride my bike to the store), then I should have let him instead of saying "I got this, I'm on my bike", Right? Especially since he knows I ride a bike, silly me
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It's not THAT someone makes the first move that matters, it's how and why they do that determines how things go.
And that's a matter of taste, too. Some people, both male and female, seem to like the most base and crudely direct methods I can imagine, verging on assault. Others are at the other end of the spectrum, with "moves" so subtle that anyone without the exact right focus, wouldn't even be aware that they occurred. Most seem to like something in between. |
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there is no definite right time then? not even a hint when you have to be the first to say hello? not even a clue when you have to put your own guard down? no sign when you have to be the first one to say you care or vice versa? What do you mean by "first move"? If it's to make first contact, it's quite simple: Woman has to give the guy a sign that she's interested first. This was true in the "Scarlet O'Hara" day (Gone with the Wind) and still is valid today. You have to let a guy know you are interested in him so he knows the chances of making a fool out of himself are very slim. Yes, male egos are far more fragile than females, believe it or not. So if you see a guy you like and he happens to look at you, even if it's briefly, smile at him. Guys are thick, and will think you are smiling at someone else, so you'll have to do it again. Keep the eye-contact and smile. Hold that eye-contact for preferably 10 seconds, which feels like eternity. But if you do that, the guy will know you are smiling at him and not the bloke behind him. If he doesn't look at you and you like him, you can say hello. Or ask a question, for instance, "I don't know what coffee/cake is good here. Can you help me out?" Best not do that when you are with friends, because then the risk for him is too high. If you happen to not like him, he'll feel like an idiot in front of you and all your friends. And one of your friends could even make a nasty comment, making him feel even worse. So best to do this sort of thing on your own or after you walked away from your friends. Remember: only 10% of men are confident enough to just walk up to a girl and see if she's interested, regardless of her giving a sign or being with her friends. Only 10%.... The rest won't, so you'll have to help them along a wee bit. Smile or say hi and then let him be a man and do the rest of the work. Crystal I love this, thanks! And I didn't realize that about only 10% of men being confident enough to approach you. Sure makes me feel a whole lot better than I did when I figured they just weren't interested. I know, I was quite shocked as well when I found out. I think we are all given the wrong idea, based on movies and novels maybe? The 'macho heroes' usually just go for it. Somehow most women think men will do the work without her having to do anything. But that ain't true, it never has been. In olden times the damsel 'accidentally' dropped her lace kerchief in front of the man she fancied so he knew he could safely pursue her without getting rejected. Men need rejection-protection, meaning you drop your kerchief, which these days is smile, say hello, ask his help or whatever. So the other day when the grocery guy wanted to push the cart to my car (well, my bike...I always ride my bike to the store), then I should have let him instead of saying "I got this, I'm on my bike", Right? Especially since he knows I ride a bike, silly me Yes!! It's the feminine thing to accept such things, to allow the man to do the masculine thing and to help you, do things for you. A man needs that in order to feel like a man, to feel happy. It's just that we women have all been brainwashed to not accept those gestures and to want make clear in every possible way that we can do it ourselves. Many so need to prove to themselves and the world that we are tough. Strong. But that's not feminine and doesn't allow a man to be a man and give to you. Good thing is that you can use this type of event with non-dates to practice that 'muscle' so that when you are on a date it will come more naturally. It takes time to deactivate these 'programs' we been brainwashed with you see. I still s(rew up myself regularly, hihi. But I'm making progress. Thing is, it feels really really good to accept it. Which comes down to accepting the masculine and embrace being a woman. Do make sure yo show genuine appreciation. Doesn't have to be over the top, but do express it. |
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seriously though its not cheap for women to make the first move? Shall we try a test run .. You have two choices ... pretend you don't know me and I am a handsome man ... sitting next to you on the plane .. make your move  Or the next man that posts on this thread that you think Is handsome .. Make the first move on him Double dare you  blondey i fell off my chair here hahahaha so ok youre handsome and your sitting next to me on a plane hhhmm . i would MAYBE say : hey due to our close proximity here do you mind if i ask what kind of cologne you wear? i d have to give one to my boyfriend too? wait that dont sound good right? lol
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ok now you did a double dare lol good thing its Igor here...he will be take it easy on me
 ok here goes : uhm excuse me will you please help me out with my seatbelt here it wont seem to fit...maybe yours is better?? omg i dont think i could say that in real life!!!! how about that blondey? Igor thanks for understanding
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i hope i didn't sound cheap
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there is no definite right time then? not even a hint when you have to be the first to say hello? not even a clue when you have to put your own guard down? no sign when you have to be the first one to say you care or vice versa? What do you mean by "first move"? If it's to make first contact, it's quite simple: Woman has to give the guy a sign that she's interested first. This was true in the "Scarlet O'Hara" day (Gone with the Wind) and still is valid today. You have to let a guy know you are interested in him so he knows the chances of making a fool out of himself are very slim. Yes, male egos are far more fragile than females, believe it or not. So if you see a guy you like and he happens to look at you, even if it's briefly, smile at him. Guys are thick, and will think you are smiling at someone else, so you'll have to do it again. Keep the eye-contact and smile. Hold that eye-contact for preferably 10 seconds, which feels like eternity. But if you do that, the guy will know you are smiling at him and not the bloke behind him. If he doesn't look at you and you like him, you can say hello. Or ask a question, for instance, "I don't know what coffee/cake is good here. Can you help me out?" Best not do that when you are with friends, because then the risk for him is too high. If you happen to not like him, he'll feel like an idiot in front of you and all your friends. And one of your friends could even make a nasty comment, making him feel even worse. So best to do this sort of thing on your own or after you walked away from your friends. Remember: only 10% of men are confident enough to just walk up to a girl and see if she's interested, regardless of her giving a sign or being with her friends. Only 10%.... The rest won't, so you'll have to help them along a wee bit. Smile or say hi and then let him be a man and do the rest of the work. Crystal I love this, thanks! And I didn't realize that about only 10% of men being confident enough to approach you. Sure makes me feel a whole lot better than I did when I figured they just weren't interested. I know, I was quite shocked as well when I found out. I think we are all given the wrong idea, based on movies and novels maybe? The 'macho heroes' usually just go for it. Somehow most women think men will do the work without her having to do anything. But that ain't true, it never has been. In olden times the damsel 'accidentally' dropped her lace kerchief in front of the man she fancied so he knew he could safely pursue her without getting rejected. Men need rejection-protection, meaning you drop your kerchief, which these days is smile, say hello, ask his help or whatever. So the other day when the grocery guy wanted to push the cart to my car (well, my bike...I always ride my bike to the store), then I should have let him instead of saying "I got this, I'm on my bike", Right? Especially since he knows I ride a bike, silly me Yes!! It's the feminine thing to accept such things, to allow the man to do the masculine thing and to help you, do things for you. A man needs that in order to feel like a man, to feel happy. It's just that we women have all been brainwashed to not accept those gestures and to want make clear in every possible way that we can do it ourselves. Many so need to prove to themselves and the world that we are tough. Strong. But that's not feminine and doesn't allow a man to be a man and give to you. Good thing is that you can use this type of event with non-dates to practice that 'muscle' so that when you are on a date it will come more naturally. It takes time to deactivate these 'programs' we been brainwashed with you see. I still s(rew up myself regularly, hihi. But I'm making progress. Thing is, it feels really really good to accept it. Which comes down to accepting the masculine and embrace being a woman. Do make sure yo show genuine appreciation. Doesn't have to be over the top, but do express it. i know someone who knows how to be a man he open doors and lets me go in first and pulls out my chair when i have to sit down too...he makes the first move as a man should
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Edited by
Piscesmoon02
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Mon 05/01/17 05:16 AM
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So the other day when the grocery guy wanted to push the cart to my car (well, my bike...I always ride my bike to the store), then I should have let him instead of saying "I got this, I'm on my bike", Right? Especially since he knows I ride a bike, silly me Yes!! It's the feminine thing to accept such things, to allow the man to do the masculine thing and to help you, do things for you. A man needs that in order to feel like a man, to feel happy. It's just that we women have all been brainwashed to not accept those gestures and to want make clear in every possible way that we can do it ourselves. Many so need to prove to themselves and the world that we are tough. Strong. But that's not feminine and doesn't allow a man to be a man and give to you. Good thing is that you can use this type of event with non-dates to practice that 'muscle' so that when you are on a date it will come more naturally. It takes time to deactivate these 'programs' we been brainwashed with you see. I still s(rew up myself regularly, hihi. But I'm making progress. Thing is, it feels really really good to accept it. Which comes down to accepting the masculine and embrace being a woman. Do make sure yo show genuine appreciation. Doesn't have to be over the top, but do express it. Thanks Crystal, next time I'll let him bring my groceries to my bicycle. And I see what you mean about how we have been programmed. I like the idea of practicing, this could be fun! |
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It's not THAT someone makes the first move that matters, it's how and why they do that determines how things go. And that's a matter of taste, too. Some people, both male and female, seem to like the most base and crudely direct methods I can imagine, verging on assault. Others are at the other end of the spectrum, with "moves" so subtle that anyone without the exact right focus, wouldn't even be aware that they occurred. Most seem to like something in between. igor i just took the dare and that was the clear purpose lol how would you have reacted with what i said i wonder
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.... Thanks Crystal, next time I'll let him bring my groceries to my bicycle. And I see what you mean about how we have been programmed. I like the idea of practicing, this could be fun! Yes, once aware of these things it IS fun! More lighthearted etc. Enjoy, girl! 
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So, is anyone gonna shag here or what?
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So, is anyone gonna shag here or what? At the mo smoking it |
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