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Topic: INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
jewels126's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:26 PM
as a native american cherokee i agree with ya karma and i m stayin out of this one to much to say

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:27 PM
i never said they were fair

i actually insinuated they were not

but the fact is using the logic of

are you native american (meaning indian or eskamo)

amounts to the same as saying
all blacks should go back to africa

which is also ridiculous

are you native american

if not maybe you should also go back to
the country of your prenorthamerican heritage


karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:28 PM
I'm part native yes.

And the term eskimo is incorrect. It's Inuit.

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:29 PM
the times they do a change

very rarely for the better overall

and if we were not here someone else would be

mankind in general is a conquering species

does not make it right

but it is the way i see it

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:30 PM
Then it's about time Mankind smartened up.

kidatheart70's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:32 PM
Thank you Karma, for that corrective bit of information.drinker

By the line of thinking that all that are not Native to this land, the "aboriginal" peoples should likely go back to Asia. Why not just go right back to the cradle of civilisation or even earlier.
Let's all be amoebas again!laugh

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:32 PM
well can not deny that

but you can not turn back time

and if you want the world to be one

then on with the one world govt

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karm post

I'm part native yes.

well only part is allowed to stay then flowerforyou

no photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:35 PM
adj4u

I know how to look up, and c/p too.. I haven't.

Nor have I accused anyone of being racist. I have stepped lightly around the word "Emotion" though. Emotion can mean many things I suppose.

The emotion I am referring to is FEAR.

Statistics can be spun. They are subjective. I do use them in my little diatribes... but I resist the easy way out, of simply copying off pages...

Even actual single events can be spun. Two different writers from two different points of view can see the same exact thing, yet still write about two different occurrences.

So.. I try to write about my experience as it applies to the subject at hand. Granted..it is just one man's experience. I could be wrong.

I suppose.. My question is.. I have had very little direct contest in this thread. Rather.. I see much contest with a few that agree with me.

Why is that?


adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:37 PM
Es·ki·mo (sk-m)
n. pl. Eskimo or Es·ki·mos
1.
a. A group of peoples inhabiting the Arctic coastal regions of North America and parts of Greenland and northeast Siberia.
b. A member of any of these peoples. See Usage Note at Native American.
2. Any of the languages of the Eskimo peoples.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Eskimo

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In·u·it also In·nu·it (ny-t)
n. pl. Inuit or In·u·its also Innuit or In·nu·its
1. A member of a group of Eskimoan peoples inhabiting the Arctic from northern Alaska eastward to eastern Greenland, particularly those of Canada.
2.
a. The family of languages spoken by the Inuit.
b. Any of the languages spoken by the Inuit.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Inuit

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A member of a group of Eskimoan peoples


karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:42 PM
The term eskimo is still a term taht the white settlers gave them.
They call themselves Inuit or Innu.


What would be correct? The name a people have for themselves or the name given by others.

no photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:45 PM
I have absolutely no clue how this got into historical anthropology..
I've read the thread.. and somehow a few have drawn the argument to a prehistoric point?

Sounds like someone is chasing their tail and running out of rational arguments.

kidatheart70's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:46 PM
laugh

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:47 PM
Jistme

experience is a much better teacher under
most circumstance

but that experience only teaches a small perpective

where as to research and put others learning with
your experience then your learning goes much deeper

thus giving a broader perspective

so by all means pass on your experience but broaden your mind
with experiences of others

no photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:47 PM
karmafury is correct.. Inuit is a people. I fished with them when living in Washington. Eskimo could, in some ways.. be understood as slang.

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:47 PM
Me bad. The term 'negotiated' just hit the wrong button.


Me hijack thread. Me sorry.




Where's that round room so I can sit in the corner.grumble

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:49 PM
karm post

What would be correct? The name a people have for themselves or the name given by others.

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it would depend on who is speaking

what is the name you have on your official paperwork

i may be incorrect but i doubt if it is karmafury

and did you legally change your name on said papers

or was it given to you at birth

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:50 PM
i do not think it was hijacked

it is relative to the subject of illegal immigration

just an earlier event

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:52 PM
But then I am not a 'people', a 'nation'. I a an individual. Who freely choses himself not to use a 'personal' name on a public site unless it be with people that I am in regular communication with. As a national name I am Canadian. That is my 'nation'.

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:54 PM
justme post

karmafury is correct.. Inuit is a people. I fished with them when living in Washington. Eskimo could, in some ways.. be understood as slang.

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again small perspective

broaden your perspective

def of
Innuit 1. A member of a group of Eskimoan peoples inhabiting the Arctic from northern Alaska eastward to eastern Greenland, particularly those of Canada.


karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:56 PM
"Eskimoan" Term that they do not refer to themselves by.

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