States seeking laws to penalize employers of illegals

Lawmakers in some states want to start cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants. They are frustrated by what they see as a lack of aggressiveness on the federal government’s part in enforcing a federal law

Legislators in Arizona, Missouri, Montana, Virginia, South Carolina, West Virginia, Kansas, Mississippi and Oklahoma ideas such as fining businesses and suspending their licenses, prohibiting violators from obtaining state contracts, and requiring employers to sign affidavits saying they do not knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

A few states passed laws in 2006 to confront the problem as well.

”The feds are so woefully behind,” said Republican state Sen. Chris Koster of Missouri, sponsor of one such proposal. ”To sit around and wait for federal action on this is like waiting for Santa Claus.”

Heres your best chance!

Hazelton Mayor testifies crackdown on illegals was prompted by violent crime

It was a crime surge in an old Pennsylvania coal town that prompted a crackdown on illegal immigrants, Hazelton’s mayor testified, defending the ordinance against claims that it is unconstitutional. Lou Barletta said violent crime spiked 60 percent between 2003 and 2006, driving businesses away and making residents afraid to come out of their homes. In just weeks last spring illegal immigrants were arrested for fatally shooting a man, shooting a playground with a BB gun, and dealing drugs.

"People were demanding that something be done," Barletta said on the fourth day of a trial to determine the constitutionality of Hazleton's Illegal Immigration Relief Act. Passed last summer, the ordinance imposes fines on landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and denies business permits to companies that employ them. Another measure requires tenants to register with City Hall.

The American Civil Liberties Union sued to overturn the measures. Enforcement of the laws was barred pending trial, the first to examine local efforts to curb illegal immigration.

Table 1: Selection of Illegal Alien Study Population Used For Our
Analysis:

Number of convicted criminal aliens;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 46,063;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
262,105.

Number of unique convicted criminal aliens with a FBI identification
number and an alien identification number;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 36,390;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
59,427.

Number of the above unique convicted criminal aliens that ICE
determined to have entered illegally;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 18,581;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
36,741.

Total population of illegal aliens used in our analysis;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 55,322.

Source: GAO:

[End of table]



Also taken from your link Fanta. Take note that NOT all aliens in report are illegals:
Number of convicted criminal aliens;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 46,063;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
262,105.

Now were these thrown into the numbers as well. If not then why is it necessary to append the numbers to report if they don't figure in the final tally.
The numbers as stated previously are skewed.

A more recent study
estimated that there were about 10 million illegal aliens living in the
United States as of March 2005.

Illegals estimated to number 18-20 million
Posted: January 3, 2005

Who knows?? Its not like they answer the census forms!



Number of convicted criminal aliens;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 46,063;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
262,105.

Number of unique convicted criminal aliens with a FBI identification
number and an alien identification number;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 36,390;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
59,427.

It looks like they added these two together and subtracted? these,

Number of the above unique convicted criminal aliens that ICE
determined to have entered illegally;
Inmates incarcerated in federal prison on December 27, 2003: 18,581;
Inmates incarcerated by state prisons and local jails between July 1,
2002, and June 30, 2003, and submitted to SCAAP for reimbursement:
36,741.


I would say that the former are 100% identified by ICE!
The rest, their ID has yet to be verified?
Some probably were arrested with two or three ID's on their person!

Like this guy!!

Illegal used stolen ID to get a driver’s license, a job, checking accounts and mortgages

An illegal alien bought a stolen Social Security number 20 years ago in California, moved to Illinois. He used the card to get a job and a driver’s license, to open checking accounts, to take out two mortgages and even to file bankruptcy.

But his string of luck ran out, and Francisco G. Maldonado, 39, was charged with financial identity theft and possession of a fictitious identification card. Maldonado even gave the stolen Social Security number to police booking officers several times while he was being arrested.

The woman whose Social Security number was stolen had filed several police reports, and had talked to credit and collection agencies, eventually learning the address Maldonado was using in Illinois.
When he was arrested, Maldonado had an Illinois driver’s license, a department store credit card, a bank statement, checks with his name imprinted on them and a Blue Cross insurance card. But he told police he was unable to post a $15,000 bond, and was taken to jail.

See a major thing to put to thought in giving amnesty, how many of the illegals will be criminals. Either here or running from the police in their own country!

Do you use a bleeding heart to determine it or just evict them all? When they get home and want to come back, they can do it legally!

As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world.

We dont want Shake-N-Bake American Citizens!

and god knows we have enough of our own homegrown criminals!

Plus you must realize the problem is distributed in doses. Its not a major national problem as yet!
Google has an excellent global view, which shows the population densities across the country!

You copuld say to include the numbers in a Nationwide study does not show a true picture!

Now take the areas that are included in the first post!!!
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens!

Look again at the google earth map!


http://www.geocommons.com/data_set/show/3985#
Click on Preview at the top!

You can say what you want and please do continue your debate on the laws and progression of the thread as you called it. I will continue to call the original post a lie and propaganda of the worst kind, racial/prejudice propaganda designed to raz the masses into Nazi style roundups of a group of humans in an animalistic fashion that should be considered very unAmerican as we are a nation of immigrants. This original post is lies and untruths of the worst kind.

You cannot make the information provided true, regardless to the other links. The gao report is not a national stat it is the stat of a group of aliens who are criminals and the crimes they committed per the 55,322 rap sheets pulled in 2005. It gives no national stat of crimes. If you look at the probably skewed view of how many illegals were here in 2005 supposedly 10,000,000 and there are only 55,322 illegals in the justice system then the crime rates of this post are still proven false and untrue and hatefilled propaganda.

Immigrant Breaks Law to Become Cop


http://news.aol.com/story/_a/immigrant-breaks-law-to-become-cop/20071123125209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001




wonder why this is not on fox msnbc or cnn sites

interesting

very interesting

oh man...........can we lock this thread????

be good gypsy



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I will not stop calling the information posted on the orginal post racist/prejudice propaganda designed to promote Nazi style roundups of humans in America today and I will be here until this is locked to call it that, as I do not want anyone to read this post and believe that they are getting an American point of view from it. It is racist/prejudice propaganda designed to rouse the masses into a lynching mindset. People should be ashamed of themselves to even publically announce they promote this sick agenda.

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We could end this a lot quicker if you'd answer questions other posters, including myself, bring up, as opposed to repeating the same "you're all racist" garbage you've been spewing for 35 pages now. Change the CD, please!

Right on knoxman tell her like it is!!!
Dragoness get a life oh thats impossible with the same repetitative harrassment nobody cares what you have to say,find a man oh thats impossible anybody who has reaad your threads wouldnt touch you with a fifty foot pole,your whole demenoir is very ugly go play with your dolls whyle the adults talk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Careful Dean...we are being watched. And we know what thay means....That came very close to, well...you know. We have been warned.
Kat

Say what you want personally about me, you know nothing of me and therefore it means nothing to me but................ I will not stop calling the information posted on the orginal post racist/prejudice propaganda designed to promote Nazi style roundups of humans in America today and I will be here until this is locked to call it that, as I do not want anyone to read this post and believe that they are getting an American point of view from it. It is racist/prejudice propaganda designed to rouse the masses into a lynching mindset. People should be ashamed of themselves to even publically announce they promote this sick agenda.

Ive seen that before adj!
I posted it once on here ages ago!!

Im glad you pulled it out again!
Terrible........

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