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Topic: INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:58 PM
but you chose the name

karmafury

cool with me

but do you use a name given to you

by someone else for identity purposes

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your question

What would be correct? The name a people have for themselves or the name given by others.

are you a self

are you a person

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 10:59 PM
i never said they did

but that does not mean they are not

i have yet to hear a cow call itself a cow

maybe it should be called a moo

kidatheart70's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:00 PM
Gotta love the humour!laugh drinker

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:00 PM
semantics

gotta love em

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:01 PM
Parental name isn't the same as a stranger giving me a name.

Should you for instance decide that for some reason my name is George you will wait a long time for a response. Because that is not my name even though you may have chosen it to be. A 'people's' name comes from it's culture and history (it's parents) and defines said people to themselves.



karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:02 PM
Be very careful with your response. Because I can use it against your starting arguement.

kidatheart70's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:05 PM
Using the term Eskimo where I live is a derogatory term, no matter what some dictionary or website has to say about it.:wink:

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:06 PM
Thank you Kid.
flowerforyou

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:06 PM
So the name of "Eskimo" was given to them by white people?
Kat

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:07 PM
Yes it was Kat.

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:08 PM
please do

and true it may take a long time to get a response

but in time that response will come

and maybe even come long after its deemed inappropriate

i could give an example of a people it was done with

and at times still goes on


as wrong as it may be

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but as an example of our discussion concerning

eskimo or Inuit

or vice versa

i would almost bet more would understand the world eskimo

as related to the far north american

than would understand the word inuit

regardless of what they call themselves

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:09 PM
Then by your logic the giving of a name to a nation by others is fine and makes it fact.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:12 PM
Well, I would understand the word Inuit had I been taught that. I was taught Eskimo, so that is what I know. I will make a conscience effort to remember that.
Another proof that the white people push themselves and their ways on a people.
Kat

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:13 PM
it is a matter of translation

i am not of eskimo (inuit) decent

thus the langauge i use

uses the name eskimo

and if that translates to inuit cool

but it is still eskimo to me


kidatheart70's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:14 PM
The fact remains that the world doesn't stand still no matter how much some people might resist change. Change IS the only constant. Sometimes it takes a litle bit of education, sometimes a revolution.smokin

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:14 PM
kats post

Well, I would understand the word Inuit had I been taught that. I was taught Eskimo, so that is what I know. I will make a conscience effort to remember that.
Another proof that the white people push themselves and their ways on a people.
Kat

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most peoples do not just white people

that is a racist remark

although i do not think you meant it as one

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:15 PM
so true kid

karmafury's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:16 PM
Eskimo does not translate to Inuit.

Eskimo is a derogatory term whereas Inuit means the same as most native names for their own people mean........'the people'.


However again I ask if by your logic the re-naming of a nation by others makes it alright and a fact.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:19 PM
No I am not a racist. What I meant by that remark was it most likely was "the white" people that named them that. I am sure that they would not just change their own names? No more so than the Germans, or Cherokee Indians, or etc,etc.
Kat

adj4u's photo
Tue 11/13/07 11:20 PM
it is a matter of translation


vache

kuh

αγελάδα

mucca

корова

cow

moo


which one is correct

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