laughingjesus,

Trust me when I say this, you did not understand my statements about 14C dating. Read them again and try to read them without bias, because you are way off in your summary of what I said. In fact, everything that you summarized was completely wrong. Now I don't actually think that my IQ is so high that I am the only person here who can understand what I posted, so I have to assume that you and Abra haven't tried to understand what I posted. I would guess that you assumed you knew what I was saying, so you didn't waste your time actually reading what I was saying.

just a thought to ponder

if god has no dna

why did god have to come and lie with mary

to cause her to become with child

and if mary is human

and the mother of jesus

then how could jesus not have dna

and have we forgot the line from the cross

why has thou forsaken me

that is a change from the norm is it not

but hey

just a thought to ponder

adj4u,

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why did god have to come and lie with mary
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You must be mistaken, because that didn't happen.

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then how could jesus not have dna
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Because Jesus was created in her womb by the Holy Spirit. Jesus had a body in the old testament, when He appeared as the commander of the LORD's army (Lord of Hosts). Jesus had a body when He appeared as Malach Yahweh. That was all before Jesus was born.

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why has thou forsaken me
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You are going to have to explain what you mean by that. How do those words lend credance to the theory that Jesus has DNA?

luke 26

35The angel answered,

"The Holy Spirit will come upon you,

and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God. 36Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. 37For nothing is impossible with God."

ooopppss forgot the referance my bad:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1:26-38

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from what you are saying spider

i guess jesus could not die

thus making all that say they are saved

because of their belief in him

die for their sins are wrong

you seem to be arguing that jesus was around before his birth

on earth could you post the passages that state this

and the website they are on

Argue, attack, assumptions.... simply amazing.

Do you two tag team often??

And one that steers clear when the questions get tough to answer... Spider I have read your posts and they do flip flop. If there was true consistency I would be the first to admit it HAHA I know you are out of the starting gate late with our Father, but you do know some things and you do have a passion, but yet you are filled with doubts and questions when others bring forth ideas not like your own.

Biased? Perhaps you need to gear down and re-read your own words and see perchance how they could be seen or misconstrued by others...

And IQ... you kids can throw around the big words all day long, but at night it's between you and the Big Guy on whether you acted the best you could as a Christian...

Did you show that yoke girl any compassion, grace, understanding in any of your replies in here to her Spider? You could not wait to jump and respond and took the opportunity to disprove and shoot down any ideas that are not like yours. That is my assumption that you attacked or argued.... but very interesting
how you avoided the question if you did it to grab her attention because avoidance will eat at you....

What is sad is while you read this... you have no remorse in your heart at this very moment. On other threads you are quick to jump in and grill them too.

And Abra HAHA Abra is Abra and I respect him just as I respect everyone here, but I laugh because you lumped us in together in you "assuming" that we haven't tried to understand what you posted... We as in the only two people that question your irrational thoughts and one sided views?? I say that in the manner because that is how you perceive posts too... Don't stop me now, you don't get to be the only one to assume things around here HAHA

Besides Spider you know why Dad gave us 2 ears and one mouth? Two ears to listen more first...over speaking....

In Matthew 22:37, 39 Love the Lord your god with all your heart, all your soul and all your mind. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Maybe if the posts reflected more of that last statement, defenses would be felt less...

No disrespect, laughingjesus,

but when I rest my head at night, when I sit astride my board on the ocean at dawn, with no other human in sight...it's between me and the big blue....no big dude in the sky for me....I don't follow that faith.

good post laugher

None taken at all Jess... I respect you for whatever Faith you follow, even no Faith at all is some sort of faith.



lj

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why has thou forsaken me
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You are going to have to explain what you mean by that. How do those words lend credance to the theory that Jesus has DNA?

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that was for your remark when you said jesus is never changing

that is a definite change in him

adj4u,

Follow this URL: http://www.blbi.org/

And sign up for their course on Christology. The teacher is excellent and will tie it together much better than I can.

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i guess jesus could not die
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No, Jesus did die. That's not what I'm saying in the least. Jesus is spirit made flesh. He is the visible image of the invisible God. Perhaps Jesus had DNA while he was alive, but after he was resurrected, He walked through locked doors, moved hundreds of miles in seconds and he could fly. He had wounds in his hands, feet, side and head, but felt no pain. Do you know anybody that can do that? If not, then it might be that Jesus wasn't like us. And assuming that Jesus had DNA while alive, why would we share any of that DNA? Adam was made from dirt and Eve from Adam. At no point in the Bible is it suggested that God gave us any part of Himself.

Nice comments adj4u....

Sorry for this folks, but I watch too much CSI when I have the time HAHA

Waiting to see if the Holy Spirit would be willing to submit to a DNA swab test.... HAHAHA

My bad... My apologies to anyone I offend... I should just pass out apology cards prior.... not a bad idea...

My prayers will be longggggggg tonight.

spider your post of unchanging

Sun 10/28/07 06:29 PM
scttrbrain,

Jesus taught that God is spirit, therefore not flesh and blood. Jesus has a body, but he is unchanging. If Jesus had DNA, then he would change daily. I don't see any support for the belief that God has a physical body or that Jesus has a body like we do. I think the Bible points in the opposite direction.

spider yes i have seen others walk threw solid areas

so i do not know what to tell you about that one

I am sorry Spider...

when you said:
He walked through locked doors, moved hundreds of miles in seconds and he could fly.

Are we talking about Jesus or Superman, because either one ROCKS!!

HAHAHA

as for your course and teacher

reenroll

laughingjesus,

Have you read the Gospels? Jesus rose into the clouds in front of a huge crowd. While the apostles hid in a room with a locked door, fearful that the authorities would arrest them for being Jesus' follower, Jesus walked through the locked door. Jesus met one group on the road and that night met another group in Jerusalem hundreds of miles away. I don't know what is so funny, Christians do believe that Jesus is God, why couldn't God do those things?

adj4u,

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Jesus has a body, but he is unchanging. If Jesus had DNA, then he would change daily.
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My bad, I got confused on the hypostatic union. Jesus did change physically while he lived. That doesn't change the fact that Jesus existed and is in the Bible before the New Testament. That course really is good, the teacher offers a lot of great scriptures from Old and New Testament to show that Malach Yahweh was Jesus.

correction to this post of mine

good post laugher

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it would have been a good post if names would have been left out

including the names takes away from the content of the post

and reduces it to an attack

laughingjesus,

Have you read the Gospels? Jesus rose into the clouds in front of a huge crowd. While the apostles hid in a room with a locked door, fearful that the authorities would arrest them for being Jesus' follower, Jesus walked through the locked door. Jesus met one group on the road and that night met another group in Jerusalem hundreds of miles away. I don't know what is so funny, Christians do believe that Jesus is God, why couldn't God do those things?



HAHAHA Reading the gospels was part of the curriculum.... don't think I didn't look for those cliff notes, dummy books and dvd specials.... Spider you take yourself to seriously, engineering is frying your brain.

Now what I did find interesting is YOU typing
:Christians do believe that Jesus is God:

The story of Jesus is either the greatest event in history or the cruelest hoax. If it is a hoax, then the whole of the Christian message crumbles together with the hopes of those multitudes of lives built on his name. The apostle Paul said this:

“And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up; if in fact the dead do not rise. For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.” -1 Corinthians 15:14-19 (NKJV)


:Jesus has a body, but he is unchanging. If Jesus had DNA, then he would change daily.:

Yokoke said in her post that there is DNA that can change, maybe Jesus had that?

All males and females on this planet have DNA and Jesus was a Man and he had the DNA too...right? It would have to be something else to not have DNA...