I guess I must be in the minority... because I have not met players or annoying men since my high school days (and that was a VERY long time ago! LOL) I may not have *clicked* with the man, but that had nothing to do with him misrepresenting himself or me feeling played.

Now.. I cannot say WHY this is so.. I can only state that it is. For the most part, I spend time getting to know a person.. I ask lots of questions that have them express their thought patterns, belief systems, etc... I also answer these same questions for them... I encourage & maintain dialogue. Then, I follow my gut.

So while I have not yet met the man I am seeking... I have met many wonderful people, quite a few that I count amongst my friends.

Blessings ~

good answer lightvoice, yeah what she said.lol

thatplayer89 - yup.. dated ONE player.. the kind that likes to PLAY GAMES with other peoples emotions and head, all the while cheating with another or THREE! THAT kind of player.. they talk a GREAT GAME.. all sweet and lovey.. then when the CHIPS are down.. WHAMMO.. they get busted with their pants round their ankles.. put it this way.. I'm more than ENOUGH woman for ONE man to handle.. if it's NOT enough? there's something seriously wrong with ya..

and I DON'T agree that most men are PLAYERS.. there are really NICE men out there that would dedicate their soul to a REALLY good woman.. yet somehow.. our paths have yet to cross

grannit.. couldn't agree more.. RESPECT is paramount!


(((((nerves))))) yer right there lad.. we're SOOO frustrated with having to take out the GARBAGE that we shy away from anything that MAY be fruitful

true zero but read my welcome to just say hi. like i said i have never cheated on a woman. the type of player you dated gives us a bad name. i wish not to continue this convo. my views are very broad. and i dont have the brains to say them ...i need a comp

well I treat every one like I want to be treated. I will say yes there are players out there both lady and man. they dont care about any one but them slef . they dont care who they hurt . I hope one day they will grow up . there are some man that do and will treat ladys like the should be treated .

Well it is not just the guys example: I dated a woman for two and a half years she has to boys one 21 not at home one 11 at home, I started by she wanted to live together she picked a house she wanted I bought it for her. I had flowers for her once a month during different times did not want it to be routine. I had flowers sent to her job I would bring home small gifts or leave notes to let her know I appreciated her. I had my work hours changed so she could work late if need be and not worry about her son so I would get up hours earlier then normal to go to work to be sure I could get him from School. She would go out with friends every Wednesday I watched her son she would come home late between two or three in the morning. Found out she was out drinking with her ex husband she said they were friends and that was all, and told her it was ok. The Weekends her son was not at his dads she would always have to work so I would stay home and take care of him. She went back to her ex who she filled a domestic violence charge on more than once. I do not hate her for it I hope her life is good and he does not hurt her.

However, I feel like the fool. So please tell me if I am a nice guy.

I'm wishy washy...wish I could wash you, but like it dirty , I think. I wish that were true. I know... wash my mouth out with soap....NO...neener neener..NEENER

I think it comes down to "Guys just can't Win". If your nice you get walked on. If your not nice you are labeled a jerk.

I love women, but sometimes I think it would be easier just to be done with them.

Maybe just accepting the fact we can't win or keep women happy would make this process much easier.

At the risk of being scalped by someone. I will say this. Both men and women to some extent play games. It is the human nature. Granted there are many out in the world who take game playing to an extreme. But as we are social creatures we tend to go with the flow and raise a ruckus about it later. The driving force in most of the games played is sex. Now sex is a wonderful thing but in my opinion women place to high a value
on it. In the eye and mind of most men the act of intercourse is not a commitment! A lot of women tend to see it differently. There are a lot of men that see sex as a competition, he who ends up with a high score is a winner. There are women who do feel used by these guys. It is a never ending situation. But the basic force driving it is sex. Lets face it if two people get together and click it is a great thing if not well the search continues but the games will always be there.

there's a flip side to THAT coin looking4u52.. as many women feel MAN are the ones dumping on WOMen.. so.. this could be conisdered a Catch-22 situation.. where neither is RIGHT and neither is WRONG.. there are equal parties of BOTH sexes that are just out to Scr3w you

thunderbear?? yer TOO nice.. perhaps to the point of naive??

too HIGH a value??

WOW.. sex is something Beautiful.. or it SHUD be .. specially between 2 people.. it's not a GAME or.. "hey.. I'll just OPEN my legs to the next passer by" no.. it's more intrusive for a woman to have sex.. and in order to get past the GATE KEEPER.. there a steps that need be taken FIRST.. the mind has to be captured.. the heart.. THEN the physical comes.. thats how our bodies WORK.. for the most part anywho for MANY women!

so you may be able to just 'stick yer d1ck' in ANY ol thang.. but.. most women pride themselves on being a lil more discriminate than that!
but that's JMO!

I agree with the Catch-22 situation. I also agree with retired. The sex issue really does muddle things up. If everyone could just be honest with themselves things would be easier. Here's a dilemma to think about. When starting a relationship should you resolve the sexual issues first or relationship issues first. One of these is bound to cause problems at some point.

Looking 42, i do not believe all women are bad. I just have not found the good ones. The ex did always say i was to nice to her guess after her ex the sink was to nice to her the horror stories she told about him and she goes back to him. I hope he does not kill her or hurt her. I still wish the best for her

I THOUGHT I HAD MET MR RIGHT. BUT HE ENDED NOT BEING ABLE TO LEAVE HIS GIRLFRIEND OF 10 years even tho they hate each other. now he still wants to see me, but i dont know if i want to anymore. it has been going on for 2 years

well I think it is always a bad idea to get involved with a cheater

i know, but every time he leaves me, i start getting over it and then he shows back up at my door. and i cant slam it in his face. the funny thing is he is with her and i choose not to be with anyone else

I found a great pictionary partner once, but that was years ago.

maybe some people are meant to be alone?