100% FREE ONLINE DATING
sponsored links
Previous
| Topic: Is Abortion Right In This Instance? | |
|---|---|
|
Edited by
mom333
on
Sat 05/09/15 01:45 AM
|
|
abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. Glad you could share that you have good views, but what exactly are those views? And just who are those views good as well? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. Glad you could share that you have good views, but what exactly are those views? And just who are those views good as well? Amen :) you are more perfect then you think.... seek the will of our father Jesus Christ :) |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
mom333
on
Sat 05/09/15 02:15 AM
|
|
abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. Glad you could share that you have good views, but what exactly are those views? And just who are those views good as well? Amen :) you are more perfect then you think.... seek the will of our father Jesus Christ :) 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. Glad you could share that you have good views, but what exactly are those views? And just who are those views good as well? Amen :) you are more perfect then you think.... seek the will of our father Jesus Christ :) It's not about the "church", it's about Jesus. And sorry a "church" has done you wrong in one way or another... but again it's not about the "church" |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. Glad you could share that you have good views, but what exactly are those views? And just who are those views good as well? Amen :) you are more perfect then you think.... seek the will of our father Jesus Christ :) It's not about the "church", it's about Jesus. And sorry a "church" has done you wrong in one way or another... but again it's not about the "church" |
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
uche9aa
on
Sat 05/09/15 02:56 AM
|
|
abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be put there and they deserve life. who is anybody to put an end to a life because its not convenient to them raped or not raped. if you don't feel you can love that child then give the child up for adoption, don't end a special deserving life. that is just my view. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CowboyGH - Insisting that your religious beliefs take precedence over the choices these young girls may make shows a complete lack of empathy for the horrors these girls have endured. They and only they should be the ones to make such decisions and frankly it is none of your business. I understand where you're coming from, you just don't seem to see where I'm coming from. - Is that fetus not a living being? - Does that fetus not have life? If either of those are a yes, then who's right is it for anyone to take it away? Even if the parent didn't intend to be impregnated for any number of reasons. That child's life is not a possession, it does not belong to the mother. yes it does, until it's an adult... your trying to force women to have babies they might not be able to afford, deal with, or even want... so much for god letting people make their OWN decisions... No it doesn't. A baby's life is just that, the baby's life. The baby is not a possession, a thing, or an object. Not trying to force anyone to do anything, if they did not wish to get impregnated they should not have been having sex. If it was from rape, can always put the child up for adoption. As life begins at conception. So again, how can anyone have control over if someone keeps their life or looses it especially when they've done absolutely nothing to influence the possibility of either choices? well, the law says your wrong... does god teach this baby or does the mother? if something happens to the baby, is god going to jail? is god paying for everything for the baby? Wasn't speaking of man's law. That living being inside a mother is just that, a living being. Weather it can feel or not, even if it won't ever know what's happening to it. Doesn't matter, bottom line is it's taking the life of another. That's why they allow abortion up to a certain amount of weeks, till then the fetus/baby wouldn't feel it. But that's not the point again weather if it can feel it or not, it's taking the life of a living soul. well, look at it this way then.... god abandoned the 200 GIRLS when he "let" them get kidnapped... god abandoned the GIRLS again when he "let" the POS's have their way with the them... now you say they should listen to god and not abort the fetus's because god doesn't want anyone "murdered"... me being atheist/agnostic says god lost his wants when he let this happen to them in the first place... if any of these girls want to keep the babies, more power to them, i wish them the best... and the same goes if any of the girls want to abort the babies... if i was a doctor, i would do it for them for free... well, look at it this way then.... god abandoned the 200 GIRLS when he "let" them get kidnapped... god abandoned the GIRLS again when he "let" the POS's have their way with the them Well look at it this way, God didn't abandon the 200 girls when he didn't specifically "let" them do anything. It's called free will, those men will have their reward for that which they did. So we can look at it as God allowed them to get into that situation, but why don't we go more of a "God rescued those 200 girls" from the situation? that just sounds soooo hypocritical... he "allows" them to get kidnapped and raped, free will on the muslims that kidnapped them, and then you think he "rescued" them, but then thats where the free will stops... 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CowboyGH - Insisting that your religious beliefs take precedence over the choices these young girls may make shows a complete lack of empathy for the horrors these girls have endured. They and only they should be the ones to make such decisions and frankly it is none of your business. actually, its anyone's business who cares to ask the question with their personal opinion lets remember, this thread isnt going to determine anything for those girls in reality,, but someone asked others opinions about the issue and we all have the business of being free to be honest about what that is,,, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Uh, point of information: Nowhere does the Bible say that God gives each Human unlimited free will. We now return to this thread, which is already in progress. Free will = the ability to do whatever one wishes to do, whenever, wherever. God doesn't have to say "ye have free will". "Choices" is free will. With either, one would not have the other. Uh, you left out the part of my previous post that says "unlimited". Choices can be limited. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
uche9aa
on
Sat 05/09/15 02:30 PM
|
|
Millions die each year globally because of abortion and abortion related complications. It heartless to advocate for killing of babies, innocent babies. If your were aborted by your mother, would you have the chance to enjoy life as you are doing right now? Say no to infanticide
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Millions die each year globally because abortion and abortion related complications. It heartless to advocate for killing of babies, innocent babies. If your were aborted by your mother, would you have the chance to enjoy life as you are doing right now? Say no to infanticide you wont change peoples minds here if one can not be defined as human, its not valued its how so many injustices went on so long,, otherwise good people didn't see the victims as truly 'human' |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
This certainly has been an interesting read {from beginning to this fragmented point right here}; odd how the 'MEN' seem to keep pushing the religious POV as if that justified the ends and reasoning for what brought this all to pass!
Where's PanamaJoe when you need him 
Might I remind some of those {least you've forgotten} that many of these female gendered humans were but little girls when they were captured/kidnapped/stolen from their momma's and who knows when the actual dirty raping began; this is the area where the 'MEN FOLK' are raised to think that raping a virgin will cure all of their STD's so it's not that uncommon regardless of the faith based religion that you hang the male gender for the heinous deed! These regions also practice that horrid female mutilation of gentile circumcision and do it on the very - very young; {look it up - there are ghastly pictorial images that I'll not be posting here}...so what's my point? It just strikes me as ODD and almost insulting that the males species does this to the female species and then when it's her body and her decision as to what to do about the embryo growing in that too little body of that 9/10/11 year old female; those very male gendered men think they have a 'SAY IN WHAT SHE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO'! Now before you go postal about what I typed; did any of you good men partake in any of that horrid event - NOOOO, then I wasn't speaking to you... But if you are going to condemn those little girls that have now suffered many years of brutality at the hands of those cruel sub-humans and bring religion into this discussion then I'm just SMH and befuddled that you assume you have a 'VOTE'!!! God didn't have anything to do with those EVIL DOERS - and if nothing else proves that SATAN walks this earth among us then humans that torture little girls/children and animals are doing SATAN'S work and some really excel at it and it's got nothing to do with GOD'S WORK! Nothing - Nothing at all. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
This certainly has been an interesting read {from beginning to this fragmented point right here}; odd how the 'MEN' seem to keep pushing the religious POV as if that justified the ends and reasoning for what brought this all to pass!
Where's PanamaJoe when you need him
Might I remind some of those {least you've forgotten} that many of these female gendered humans were but little girls when they were captured/kidnapped/stolen from their momma's and who knows when the actual dirty raping began; this is the area where the 'MEN FOLK' are raised to think that raping a virgin will cure all of their STD's so it's not that uncommon regardless of the faith based religion that you hang the male gender for the heinous deed! These regions also practice that horrid female mutilation of gentile circumcision and do it on the very - very young; {look it up - there are ghastly pictorial images that I'll not be posting here}...so what's my point? It just strikes me as ODD and almost insulting that the males species does this to the female species and then when it's her body and her decision as to what to do about the embryo growing in that too little body of that 9/10/11 year old female; those very male gendered men think they have a 'SAY IN WHAT SHE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO'! Now before you go postal about what I typed; did any of you good men partake in any of that horrid event - NOOOO, then I wasn't speaking to you... But if you are going to condemn those little girls that have now suffered many years of brutality at the hands of those cruel sub-humans and bring religion into this discussion then I'm just SMH and befuddled that you assume you have a 'VOTE'!!! God didn't have anything to do with those EVIL DOERS - and if nothing else proves that SATAN walks this earth among us then humans that torture little girls/children and animals are doing SATAN'S work and some really excel at it and it's got nothing to do with GOD'S WORK! Nothing - Nothing at all. stereotype much? i don't push religion, and most men in hear don't either... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
HEAR - HEAR...and it sure pays to read the entire post!
But then I'm quite sure you meant 'Here' but then I'm open minded about such things and try to allow adults to discuss topics without getting my underwear all knotted up and BENT out of shape about things that weren't directed at me! Like what I posted!   
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CowboyGH - Insisting that your religious beliefs take precedence over the choices these young girls may make shows a complete lack of empathy for the horrors these girls have endured. They and only they should be the ones to make such decisions and frankly it is none of your business. I understand where you're coming from, you just don't seem to see where I'm coming from. - Is that fetus not a living being? - Does that fetus not have life? If either of those are a yes, then who's right is it for anyone to take it away? Even if the parent didn't intend to be impregnated for any number of reasons. That child's life is not a possession, it does not belong to the mother. yes it does, until it's an adult... your trying to force women to have babies they might not be able to afford, deal with, or even want... so much for god letting people make their OWN decisions... No it doesn't. A baby's life is just that, the baby's life. The baby is not a possession, a thing, or an object. Not trying to force anyone to do anything, if they did not wish to get impregnated they should not have been having sex. If it was from rape, can always put the child up for adoption. As life begins at conception. So again, how can anyone have control over if someone keeps their life or looses it especially when they've done absolutely nothing to influence the possibility of either choices? well, the law says your wrong... does god teach this baby or does the mother? if something happens to the baby, is god going to jail? is god paying for everything for the baby? Wasn't speaking of man's law. That living being inside a mother is just that, a living being. Weather it can feel or not, even if it won't ever know what's happening to it. Doesn't matter, bottom line is it's taking the life of another. That's why they allow abortion up to a certain amount of weeks, till then the fetus/baby wouldn't feel it. But that's not the point again weather if it can feel it or not, it's taking the life of a living soul. well, look at it this way then.... god abandoned the 200 GIRLS when he "let" them get kidnapped... god abandoned the GIRLS again when he "let" the POS's have their way with the them... now you say they should listen to god and not abort the fetus's because god doesn't want anyone "murdered"... me being atheist/agnostic says god lost his wants when he let this happen to them in the first place... if any of these girls want to keep the babies, more power to them, i wish them the best... and the same goes if any of the girls want to abort the babies... if i was a doctor, i would do it for them for free... well, look at it this way then.... god abandoned the 200 GIRLS when he "let" them get kidnapped... god abandoned the GIRLS again when he "let" the POS's have their way with the them Well look at it this way, God didn't abandon the 200 girls when he didn't specifically "let" them do anything. It's called free will, those men will have their reward for that which they did. So we can look at it as God allowed them to get into that situation, but why don't we go more of a "God rescued those 200 girls" from the situation? that just sounds soooo hypocritical... he "allows" them to get kidnapped and raped, free will on the muslims that kidnapped them, and then you think he "rescued" them, but then thats where the free will stops...
How does that stop the free will? Nothing or no one was "forced" to do anything. And having a "negative" outcome of a choice is not taking free will away either, as the person still has the choice to make the action in the first place. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
This certainly has been an interesting read {from beginning to this fragmented point right here}; odd how the 'MEN' seem to keep pushing the religious POV as if that justified the ends and reasoning for what brought this all to pass!
Where's PanamaJoe when you need him
Might I remind some of those {least you've forgotten} that many of these female gendered humans were but little girls when they were captured/kidnapped/stolen from their momma's and who knows when the actual dirty raping began; this is the area where the 'MEN FOLK' are raised to think that raping a virgin will cure all of their STD's so it's not that uncommon regardless of the faith based religion that you hang the male gender for the heinous deed! These regions also practice that horrid female mutilation of gentile circumcision and do it on the very - very young; {look it up - there are ghastly pictorial images that I'll not be posting here}...so what's my point? It just strikes me as ODD and almost insulting that the males species does this to the female species and then when it's her body and her decision as to what to do about the embryo growing in that too little body of that 9/10/11 year old female; those very male gendered men think they have a 'SAY IN WHAT SHE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO'! Now before you go postal about what I typed; did any of you good men partake in any of that horrid event - NOOOO, then I wasn't speaking to you... But if you are going to condemn those little girls that have now suffered many years of brutality at the hands of those cruel sub-humans and bring religion into this discussion then I'm just SMH and befuddled that you assume you have a 'VOTE'!!! God didn't have anything to do with those EVIL DOERS - and if nothing else proves that SATAN walks this earth among us then humans that torture little girls/children and animals are doing SATAN'S work and some really excel at it and it's got nothing to do with GOD'S WORK! Nothing - Nothing at all. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
many religions view sex as some sacred act for procreation of life between a husband and wife . I was unaware this include rape of minors . Once again .. The power of religion to brainwash . What about artificial insemination .. The creation of life In A test tube .. What does your god tell you about that . . a Thousandfold Abomination! Against Divine Law!   
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
many religions view sex as some sacred act for procreation of life between a husband and wife . I was unaware this include rape of minors . Once again .. The power of religion to brainwash . What about artificial insemination .. The creation of life In A test tube .. What does your god tell you about that . . a Thousandfold Abomination! Against Divine Law!
As much as you fool around on here you still speak more sense than most Blondey. Let there be light. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
many religions view sex as some sacred act for procreation of life between a husband and wife . I was unaware this include rape of minors . Once again .. The power of religion to brainwash . What about artificial insemination .. The creation of life In A test tube .. What does your god tell you about that . . a Thousandfold Abomination! Against Divine Law!
hope they don't hold their Breath while they wait! 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
2OLD2MESSAROUND
on
Sun 05/10/15 06:36 AM
|
|
2old2 stated >>>
Please,for the records, Nigeria where that rape/abduction and stealing of those 214 girls happened does NOT believe that raping virgins cure any illness talkless aids. Nigerian are far educated beyond what you think. Female mutilation had since been outlawed too. It was the Boko Haram terrorist group that carried out that crime.
This certainly has been an interesting read {from beginning to this fragmented point right here}; odd how the 'MEN' seem to keep pushing the religious POV as if that justified the ends and reasoning for what brought this all to pass!
Where's PanamaJoe when you need him
Might I remind some of those {least you've forgotten} that many of these female gendered humans were but little girls when they were captured/kidnapped/stolen from their momma's and who knows when the actual dirty raping began; this is the area where the 'MEN FOLK' are raised to think that raping a virgin will cure all of their STD's so it's not that uncommon regardless of the faith based religion that you hang the male gender for the heinous deed! These regions also practice that horrid female mutilation of gentile circumcision and do it on the very - very young; {look it up - there are ghastly pictorial images that I'll not be posting here}...so what's my point? It just strikes me as ODD and almost insulting that the males species does this to the female species and then when it's her body and her decision as to what to do about the embryo growing in that too little body of that 9/10/11 year old female; those very male gendered men think they have a 'SAY IN WHAT SHE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO'! Now before you go postal about what I typed; did any of you good men partake in any of that horrid event - NOOOO, then I wasn't speaking to you... But if you are going to condemn those little girls that have now suffered many years of brutality at the hands of those cruel sub-humans and bring religion into this discussion then I'm just SMH and befuddled that you assume you have a 'VOTE'!!! God didn't have anything to do with those EVIL DOERS - and if nothing else proves that SATAN walks this earth among us then humans that torture little girls/children and animals are doing SATAN'S work and some really excel at it and it's got nothing to do with GOD'S WORK! Nothing - Nothing at all. And please be pricise; Do you support aborting the pregancy they are carrying or should the pregnancy stay or are you undecided? UGH...IF ONLY; If only you'd understand the method and reasons why the mindset behind those evil/horrid men {the ilk of Boko Haram} do what they do with their own governments 'SILENT CONSENT' and they've been able to get away with it for generations >>> http://img.static.reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources-pdf-previews/203031-FGMC_NGA_Profile.png You speak of Nigeria as those it's suddenly became a 'Golden Spear of Human Rights' and the documentation and information still being gathered by UNICEF and foreign health aid providers still trying to STOP this heinous barbaric practice goes on! Age at Circumcision: % 0 -12 Months 85% 1-4 yrs 4.1% 5-6 yrs 1.8% 7-8 yrs 2.0% 9-10 yrs 0.5% 11-12 yrs 0.9% 13+ 3.9% Donât know/missing 1.8% Person who performed the circumcision Traditional circumcisers 60.6 Traditional birth attendant 10.0 Other traditional methods 1.0 Doctors 2.0 Nurse/midwife 24.3 Other health professionals 0.4 Missing/don\t know 1.8 Source: Nigeria Demographic and Health Survey: 2003 ******************************************** Limitation and Challenges Attitudes, traditions, customs and beliefs need to change Government need to show more commitment to ending FGM. Laws prohibiting FGM is difficult to be enforced There is little support for those fighting FGM Children and adolescents needs to be informed and enabled to reject FGM Medical services have to be able to respond to the consequences of female genital mutilation, and the education system should be able to contribute to preventing it There is the need to promote the role of men as partners against the practice There is a need for the establishment of a database to promote understanding of the prevalence and nature of FGM. How to Eliminate FGM • Call for legislative provisions and stern measures to prohibit the practice • Development of alternative sources of income for circumcisers • Strong advocacy campaigns against the practice nationwide by working with the media on information, education and communication campaigns that have an impact on the public’s understanding of, and societal attitudes to FGM http://www.unicef.org/nigeria/FGM_.pdf OH, indeed it was stated by Nigeria that this 'should be abolished' and yet it's rarely ever enforced - ever prosecuted - ever anyone sentenced for mutilating those innocent young babies - young women! So the best way in which to ensure quiet slaves among those women - capture them when they are young and keep them uneducated!!!! But like a back alley abortionist - trying to stop this horrid miscarriage of justice from being done to those young women when it's so ingrained into the 'MIND SET' of the culture and you're posting about 214 young women that may or may not chose to abort a rape fetus; MIND BLOWING to my way of thinking! That will be a choice that they make and it will be between their doctor - their GOD - for them to decide and no man to judge them for that decision - PERIOD! |
|
|
|
|
