Sorry, you seem to have really misunderstood something somewhere along the lines here. Yahshua is not Yahweh, never said he was. He is the only begotten of the Father in Heaven, Jesus is OUR father. Two different entities, Jesus is the one that formed us and made us into existence, created the Heavens, Earth, ect. The scriptures never claim Jesus' father for that. Jesus' father is NEVER referred to as "father" until Jesus came to this Earth in the flesh. WHILE he was in the flesh, God the father was his father, while he was playing the form of a servant. Remember, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God. Then the Word was made flesh eg., Jesus Christ. Notice the verse that specifically says he was God and he was with God.

you r absolutely right. Yahshua is not Yahweh and Yahshua is not jc..

Did you know that if you could go back to the time of the twelve apostles, if you walked up to Peter and said, "Please, take me to see Jesus Christ", Peter would get a puzzled look on his face and say the equivalent of, "Who, or what is that?" Did you know that no one who followed Jesus was capable of accurately pronouncing in English the name "Jesus"? The truth is, if you could go back in time, Peter would probably say something more like, "Come, let me introduce you to Yeshua the Messiah."

When the angel Gabriel came to Mary and told her she was going to have a son and what the child's name was to be, (Luke 1:31) the sound of the name that Mary heard come from Gabriel's lips was very close to, if not exactly... "Yehoshua" pronounced Yeh-ho-shoo'-ah. In modern Hebrew script, "Yehoshua" looks like and is read from right to left. This name is the blending of two Hebrew words. The first part, "Yeh-ho", is part of God's name that is sometimes used at the beginning or end of a Hebrew name. The second part of the Messiah's name, "shua", is the Hebrew word for deliverance meaning, "saves". The name "Yehoshua" literally means God-saves. The name Yehoshua was then shortened for everyday use the same way a name like Barbara is often shortened to Barb (see the name parable), and the four syllable name Yehoshua was shortened to three syllables, Yeshua.


http://judaismvschristianity.com/how_the_name.htm

I've got to figure-out this Milesoftheusa more !


Up-till-now... He's been an enjoyable-enigma.

Shalom Sheik

up till now. haha sometimes I just get frustrated. like I am lost for words. I know I need more patience, faith, and love. what we believe is closer than most. what I do believe is we are all human, no better no worse. all sinners and everyone is in a learning stage of all of their life. That we must seek to know what is right and wrong with a sincere and humble heart and this Yahweh will not condemn anyone for. That our minds are trained to think from a child what this is and we must seek guidense from Yahweh and his words not the traditions of man. That the promice of his spirit to teach us all things to show us all things is their if we will just humble our hearts and seek him. that tradition rules because of the worlds ways, families ways being rejected by our fellow man Yahshua said they will persecute you and hate you because they hated him 1st. Tradition of the elders and their power and influence is why the people went along and killed an innocent man. Yahshua I believe is our example so if people could not understand a man who did no evil. It should be not be any thing strange if you try and follow his example they will not understand you. We must believe the Holy Spirit can teach us as we are the Temple of Yahweh. All things are possible if we will just believe and follow Yahshua's example. This is a promice from him We are all his creation and created equal in his eyes. That's why we should not judge. some are on milk and some are on the meat of the word. Loving our neighbor is not always easy. So Loving Yahweh 1st is the only way we can be capable of Love. I am a man who just wants to know his ways no matter where that takes me. We must clease ourselves of tradition and just follow the example of Yahweh and he was sinless because he kept Yahweh's law. Love is in his Law why else would Yahshua follow it? Forgive me if sometimes I get frustrated and do not show that Love as I should. I do enjoy what you have to say. learning is a win win situation. we just have to be humble and everyone understand we are all sinners and need his grace and spirit to live a fruitful and loving life. May Yahweh of Host Bless You and Yours

May peace and continued enlightenment be with You as well, Milesoftheusa.

perhaps by Christmas this topic will die..lol

Another Pagan holiday dressed up and passed off as Christian.

It's a Christian holiday, Celebrating the birth of our Christ. Regardless if others celebrate another celebration at that time. Neither one has to be off of the other. And yes we also understand Christ wasn't born in December. But none the less it's a celebration of his birth, as there is absolutely no 100% way to know the exact day he was born. Why it ended up on the date it did might have been cause of another celebration/belief. But the celebration on what we celebrate it for is not taken from anyone as again it's in celebration of the birth of our Savior.

I'd like to clarify something.

According to the Bible, the God of Genesis 1:1 has revealed Himself in the forms of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

This is why Christians believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the same God in essence.

Like Judaism and Islam, Christianity is strictly monotheistic.

Unlike Christianity, Mormonism teaches that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three separate Gods in essence.

How can he be God and the son of himself?

Christianity teaches that in absolutely no way. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all ONE God.


John 10:30

30 I and my Father are one.


And the Holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit, it generally specifically says either "The/Holy Spirit" or "God's Holy Spirit".

He isn't the son of himself, they are separate beings, but one God for the Father and Jesus are one.

Let me rephrase the question. Why did Jesus refer to his father as God? Wasn't he referring to himself?

Jesus referred to his father as God because Jesus came in the form of a servant. Hey came to serve his Father in whom he called "God" because the meaning of "god" is someone of authority. Again, Jesus came in the form of a servant, so the Father had authority over him, thus making him Jesus' God.

Jesus is indeed our father as it was the Lord God that made mankind, but he is not the "Father" when the scriptures state "Father" as a proper noun.

Jesus was really a piece of God which was impersonating a servant. ?

Did God die on the cross?

Amen he did.


Revelation 1:18

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

There is no "piece" of God lol. You are looking at the word "God" as a being in itself, no. The word "god" is used to demonstrate authority over another, it's a title.

Correct. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the same God in essence, not three separate Gods.