Topic: Take My Country Back
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Mon 03/03/14 05:29 PM

Taxpayers pay those who choose not to help themselves.

Those sponges could show a bit of appreciation with at least a little oral.:wink: smokin


Careful, once a leech gets a hold they want to get fat and ugly and then run away with your life blood.

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Mon 03/03/14 05:48 PM

You are so ridiculous it's actually comical. laugh

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Sorry real definitions don't count here unless they can be twisted or spun.






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Mon 03/03/14 05:48 PM

states set their own rules,, as many support , for their funds

the FEDERAL welfare which FEDERAL INCOME TAX applies to, ,has time limits imposed on 4 out of 5 welfare recipients,,,


Sure...

Federal law affords states great flexibility in setting time-limit policies. The federal 60-month limit does not apply to state-funded benefits; also, states may use federal TANF funds to support up to 20 percent of the caseload beyond 60 months. Thus, states may set a 60-month time limit, a shorter limit, or no time limit, and they may choose to exempt families from time limits. Not surprisingly, time-limit policies vary dramatically from state to state."

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Mon 03/03/14 05:51 PM

its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.

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Mon 03/03/14 05:52 PM


and what has that to do with anything?

already stated those who use temporary assistance as a permanent dependence need a change in perception




OK I get it.......able bodied people voluntarily being on "temporary assistance" is OK if it's inconvenient to work and tax payers should happily contribute to the CULTURE of these PARASITIC VULTURES. laugh


Aut oh, you caught on.

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Mon 03/03/14 06:04 PM




not so menial when it can be sent back to a country where it is worth 13 times as much,,lol

Im sure americans would love a rate of pay 13 times higher, and nothing would be considered MENIAL at that rate,,,

laugh laugh


But there would always be some excuse....

It's very obvious, someone on here has no idea the value of the dollar in other countries that send us illegal.

I'd be interested in which illegals send dollars that are 13 times the value of their home currency. laugh


Could be those Mexicans. You know the ones that come up here and work for a for less than minimum wage out in the fields so they can afford that palace with a well only shared by a few other villagers but they have their own private hole out back. The absolute gall of those people taking advantage of us like that.

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Mon 03/03/14 06:32 PM


its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,

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Mon 03/03/14 06:40 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 03/03/14 06:42 PM





not so menial when it can be sent back to a country where it is worth 13 times as much,,lol

Im sure americans would love a rate of pay 13 times higher, and nothing would be considered MENIAL at that rate,,,

laugh laugh


But there would always be some excuse....

It's very obvious, someone on here has no idea the value of the dollar in other countries that send us illegal.

I'd be interested in which illegals send dollars that are 13 times the value of their home currency. laugh


Could be those Mexicans. You know the ones that come up here and work for a for less than minimum wage out in the fields so they can afford that palace with a well only shared by a few other villagers but they have their own private hole out back. The absolute gall of those people taking advantage of us like that.


no one said taking advantage

pointing out the difference in the VALUE of ones work

where in mexico their minimum wage is 70 pesos per DAY
which is the equivalent about 5.50 usd

Id say doing that same work for a wage that equals one day of work and earning it in ONE hour, makes the VALUE of the work worth the effort of the work

IM sure, if americans could run to Canada and earn 56 dollars per HOUr for 'menial' jobs,

instead of 56 dollars per day,, they would do a lot of that work too,,lol




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Mon 03/03/14 06:51 PM



its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,


Of course they do, not enough free stuff.


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Mon 03/03/14 06:51 PM






not so menial when it can be sent back to a country where it is worth 13 times as much,,lol

Im sure americans would love a rate of pay 13 times higher, and nothing would be considered MENIAL at that rate,,,

laugh laugh


But there would always be some excuse....

It's very obvious, someone on here has no idea the value of the dollar in other countries that send us illegal.

I'd be interested in which illegals send dollars that are 13 times the value of their home currency. laugh


Could be those Mexicans. You know the ones that come up here and work for a for less than minimum wage out in the fields so they can afford that palace with a well only shared by a few other villagers but they have their own private hole out back. The absolute gall of those people taking advantage of us like that.


no one said taking advantage

pointing out the difference in the VALUE of ones work

where in mexico their minimum wage is 70 pesos per DAY
which is the equivalent about 5.50 usd

Id say doing that same work for a wage that equals one day of work and earning it in ONE hour, makes the VALUE of the work worth the effort of the work

IM sure, if americans could run to Canada and earn 56 dollars per HOUr for 'menial' jobs,

instead of 56 dollars per day,, they would do a lot of that work too,,lol



I haven't been keeping count, have we reached 100 on the excuse list yet?

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Mon 03/03/14 06:54 PM




its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,


Of course they do, not enough free stuff.





nope, they don't complain about that either,,,

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Mon 03/03/14 06:55 PM



its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,


Because they hadn't thought of how much it costs them; when you point out how much they'd be able to keep without the Welfare Slaves depending on their labor, they'll think differently; unless they're Politicos out enslaving the poor.

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Mon 03/03/14 06:57 PM







not so menial when it can be sent back to a country where it is worth 13 times as much,,lol

Im sure americans would love a rate of pay 13 times higher, and nothing would be considered MENIAL at that rate,,,

laugh laugh


But there would always be some excuse....

It's very obvious, someone on here has no idea the value of the dollar in other countries that send us illegal.

I'd be interested in which illegals send dollars that are 13 times the value of their home currency. laugh


Could be those Mexicans. You know the ones that come up here and work for a for less than minimum wage out in the fields so they can afford that palace with a well only shared by a few other villagers but they have their own private hole out back. The absolute gall of those people taking advantage of us like that.


no one said taking advantage

pointing out the difference in the VALUE of ones work

where in mexico their minimum wage is 70 pesos per DAY
which is the equivalent about 5.50 usd

Id say doing that same work for a wage that equals one day of work and earning it in ONE hour, makes the VALUE of the work worth the effort of the work

IM sure, if americans could run to Canada and earn 56 dollars per HOUr for 'menial' jobs,

instead of 56 dollars per day,, they would do a lot of that work too,,lol



I haven't been keeping count, have we reached 100 on the excuse list yet?


nope, but we have reached a high count on answers that go ignored when they don't fit the 'leech' philosophy,,,...

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Mon 03/03/14 06:58 PM


Who has taken our country? As a result of advertising creating needs that are imagined, we Americans spend more than we earn. Because of the money in politics today, we elect people who have little connection with Main Street or the next-door neighbor, we elect people to Washington who make laws that create millionaires with dependencies on Washington�s largesse and make laws that benefit Wall Street and the 1 percent. Laws that benefit the middle class and the working classes are subjugated to the wants and wishes of corporations and their lobbyists. We want to take our country back so that anyone who wants an assault weapon can have it even though more young and old Americans will be being murdered.

Exactly to what do we want to go back? We remember who we were and how life was a couple of generations ago. But what we can�t seem to get our minds around is who we were is not who we are. We are a nation of two-salary families, a nation of plutocrats and leaders whose selfish policies protect a privileged few, and a religious nation that idolizes lucre and claims that poverty is the wrath of an angry God. Instead of taking our country back, let�s take it forward to a future where the hungry are fed, the sick are healed, and the values of our faith are honored regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, politics, or the size of one�s bank account. Rather than focusing on who we were, let�s plan on who we will be.


Read More: http://cubie1944.com/2013/11/19/the-way-we-were/


As one who started off dirt poor, having had to live with relatives down in Mexico who didn't even have electricity or running water (Bet no one here can even imagine such a life) until I was old enough, and had the money to return on my own; I take offence that because I was willing to work as many as three jobs at a time, only drive used cars, do without, ate by means of a rifle and a fishing pole much of the time, save my money and invest in things that goes up in value, that I'm greedy and/or selfish because I object to have others live off my labor by picking my pocket and take food out of the mouths of my family.

In this country, even the poorest are among the Top 10% in wealth worldwide; and the Government does it by taking from those who earned it, to enslave those that didn't.

With all due respect, Miss Harmony has the same mindset as which led to the French Revolution, the Bolsheviks Revolution, the Holodomor the Holocaust, The Great Leap Forward, and other nightmares the world over.

Hunger teaches the lazy to work.
Like a door on its hinges, is the lazy on his bed.
A Fool eats all that he has, the wise have warehouses of oil and grain.
Plow deep as sluggards sleep, you'll have grain to sell and keep.
:thumbsup:

there a lot of middle class Americans who are fed up with entitlements, not because SOMETIMES someone might need a TEMPORARY helping had but because the wealthy , not the middle class, should be supporting those efforts when they are needed

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Mon 03/03/14 06:59 PM




its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,


Because they hadn't thought of how much it costs them; when you point out how much they'd be able to keep without the Welfare Slaves depending on their labor, they'll think differently; unless they're Politicos out enslaving the poor.



no, wrong again

the taxpayers I know are educated, some having careers in government, accounting, and finance

and they understand the concept of investing and the reality that sometimes people need help and how taxes is an investment in society, its defense, its 'general welfare' and its 'future' which depends upon how the children and the lesser abled are valued,,,,



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Mon 03/03/14 07:01 PM




its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,


Because they hadn't thought of how much it costs them; when you point out how much they'd be able to keep without the Welfare Slaves depending on their labor, they'll think differently; unless they're Politicos out enslaving the poor.


most taxpayers I know are furious about the extent of entitlements

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Mon 03/03/14 07:05 PM
most I know aren't upset that those in need get help

they are more upset that corporations and the elite get loopholes and breaks that greatly overshadow any 'welfare' that the poor get to survive on,,,and with much fewer restrictions than the poor have

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Mon 03/03/14 07:12 PM





its as expansive of the egos of all those 'did it all myself' egotists,,,




Egotist, you mean the victims that pay for the entitlements.


no, I mean egotists, the taxpayers I know don't whine about the existence of welfare,,,,


Because they hadn't thought of how much it costs them; when you point out how much they'd be able to keep without the Welfare Slaves depending on their labor, they'll think differently; unless they're Politicos out enslaving the poor.



no, wrong again

the taxpayers I know are educated, some having careers in government, accounting, and finance

and they understand the concept of investing and the reality that sometimes people need help and how taxes is an investment in society, its defense, its 'general welfare' and its 'future' which depends upon how the children and the lesser abled are valued,,,,



Oh yeah, the mover and shakers of the world. If you can't do, join government, if you don't have count someone else's, and if you don't own, use someone else's.

And the rest is just a pure figment of the imagination. And to believe that investing involves the government is just pure stupidity.

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Mon 03/03/14 07:15 PM

most I know aren't upset that those in need get help

they are more upset that corporations and the elite get loopholes and breaks that greatly overshadow any 'welfare' that the poor get to survive on,,,and with much fewer restrictions than the poor have


I think that's right in my observation. I know it reflects my feeling and those who I talk to about it, there is not a problem with someone needing a legup now & then, Not a problem for the permanently disabled to need assistance...it's the bill for that falling too heavily on those who can least afford to support the programs. But also the bureaucracy has become too large and too full of fraud as well.

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Mon 03/03/14 07:17 PM








not so menial when it can be sent back to a country where it is worth 13 times as much,,lol

Im sure americans would love a rate of pay 13 times higher, and nothing would be considered MENIAL at that rate,,,

laugh laugh


But there would always be some excuse....

It's very obvious, someone on here has no idea the value of the dollar in other countries that send us illegal.

I'd be interested in which illegals send dollars that are 13 times the value of their home currency. laugh


Could be those Mexicans. You know the ones that come up here and work for a for less than minimum wage out in the fields so they can afford that palace with a well only shared by a few other villagers but they have their own private hole out back. The absolute gall of those people taking advantage of us like that.


no one said taking advantage

pointing out the difference in the VALUE of ones work

where in mexico their minimum wage is 70 pesos per DAY
which is the equivalent about 5.50 usd

Id say doing that same work for a wage that equals one day of work and earning it in ONE hour, makes the VALUE of the work worth the effort of the work

IM sure, if americans could run to Canada and earn 56 dollars per HOUr for 'menial' jobs,

instead of 56 dollars per day,, they would do a lot of that work too,,lol



I haven't been keeping count, have we reached 100 on the excuse list yet?


nope, but we have reached a high count on answers that go ignored when they don't fit the 'leech' philosophy,,,...



Really, and what hasn't been answered multiple times from multiple angles with a zero understanding.

So let's make sure that this is perfectly clear, the questions asked and the questions unasked about entitlements.

Just where in the constitution does it say the government has the authority to steal from one to give to another. Well it doesn't.