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more charts GDP per capita in that same timeframe http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/gdp-per-capita US population growth in that time frame http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/uspop.htm not to mention an AGING population of which more and more rely on MEDICAID , which makes up the BULK of that 700 billion number perhaps we should make people be an employee until their dying day, to make those who have 'earned' everything happier,, And what pray tell do these additional charts have to do with anything? "In 1964, programs for the poor consumed 1.2 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). Today, spending on welfare programs is 13 times greater than it was in 1964 and consumes over 5 percent of GDP." So let's put it in simple terms even a six year old would understand. In 1964, the government committed armed robbery and stole $1.20 out of every hundred dollars you earned to give to those that did not earn it. Now in 2010, that same government using even better guns, commits that same robbery but takes $5.00 out of every hundred you earn to give to those same class that did not earn it. If we continue and extrapolate across the next 50 years, the government will be taking almost $21.00 our of every hundred. so post every excuse you can find, it does not change the basis fact that entitlements are but a cancer on society. |
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sidenote: I don't understand why any married person, person with spousal support or child support or any SINGLE person would need welfare never, while I was married, or when I only had MYSELF to look after would I have needed assistance either,,, only when someone else unable to look after themselves depended upon me for food, for shelter, for nurturing and companionship, when someone elses needs put boundaries on my schedule when someone elses impressionability was impacted by my choices and my example,,, did assistance become a blessing that was available to help US through,,,when no other resource (spouse, income) was available to do so,, And if this system weren't in place.... what do you draw on? I suppose crime would be the next thing, as I don't plan to allow my children to starve or be without SAFE shelter,,, |
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sidenote: I don't understand why any married person, person with spousal support or child support or any SINGLE person would need welfare never, while I was married, or when I only had MYSELF to look after would I have needed assistance either,,, only when someone else unable to look after themselves depended upon me for food, for shelter, for nurturing and companionship, when someone elses needs put boundaries on my schedule when someone elses impressionability was impacted by my choices and my example,,, did assistance become a blessing that was available to help US through,,,when no other resource (spouse, income) was available to do so,, And if this system weren't in place.... what do you draw on? I suppose crime would be the next thing, as I don't plan to allow my children to starve or be without SAFE shelter,,, So you admit to an entitlement mindset? Rather than create to support need you would steal from others? |
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more charts GDP per capita in that same timeframe http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/gdp-per-capita US population growth in that time frame http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/uspop.htm not to mention an AGING population of which more and more rely on MEDICAID , which makes up the BULK of that 700 billion number perhaps we should make people be an employee until their dying day, to make those who have 'earned' everything happier,, And what pray tell do these additional charts have to do with anything? "In 1964, programs for the poor consumed 1.2 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). Today, spending on welfare programs is 13 times greater than it was in 1964 and consumes over 5 percent of GDP." So let's put it in simple terms even a six year old would understand. In 1964, the government committed armed robbery and stole $1.20 out of every hundred dollars you earned to give to those that did not earn it. Now in 2010, that same government using even better guns, commits that same robbery but takes $5.00 out of every hundred you earn to give to those same class that did not earn it. If we continue and extrapolate across the next 50 years, the government will be taking almost $21.00 our of every hundred. so post every excuse you can find, it does not change the basis fact that entitlements are but a cancer on society. safety nets are a necessity one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, |
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sidenote: I don't understand why any married person, person with spousal support or child support or any SINGLE person would need welfare never, while I was married, or when I only had MYSELF to look after would I have needed assistance either,,, only when someone else unable to look after themselves depended upon me for food, for shelter, for nurturing and companionship, when someone elses needs put boundaries on my schedule when someone elses impressionability was impacted by my choices and my example,,, did assistance become a blessing that was available to help US through,,,when no other resource (spouse, income) was available to do so,, And if this system weren't in place.... what do you draw on? I suppose crime would be the next thing, as I don't plan to allow my children to starve or be without SAFE shelter,,, So you admit to an entitlement mindset? Rather than create to support need you would steal from others? no, I have a PARENT mindset,, stealing isn't the only crime there is while SEARCHING for work, Getting an interview, waiting for the callback and WAITING for that first check, and HOPING it covers the other bills with enough left over for FOOD its a good chance my child would have starved,,,,,and that aint happening so I would do what was necessary to GET THROUGH until I did have an income that could sustain us,,,, |
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Edited by
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more charts GDP per capita in that same timeframe http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/united-states/gdp-per-capita US population growth in that time frame http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/uspop.htm not to mention an AGING population of which more and more rely on MEDICAID , which makes up the BULK of that 700 billion number perhaps we should make people be an employee until their dying day, to make those who have 'earned' everything happier,, And what pray tell do these additional charts have to do with anything? "In 1964, programs for the poor consumed 1.2 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). Today, spending on welfare programs is 13 times greater than it was in 1964 and consumes over 5 percent of GDP." So let's put it in simple terms even a six year old would understand. In 1964, the government committed armed robbery and stole $1.20 out of every hundred dollars you earned to give to those that did not earn it. Now in 2010, that same government using even better guns, commits that same robbery but takes $5.00 out of every hundred you earn to give to those same class that did not earn it. If we continue and extrapolate across the next 50 years, the government will be taking almost $21.00 our of every hundred. so post every excuse you can find, it does not change the basis fact that entitlements are but a cancer on society. safety nets are a necessity one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, So now we blame culture rather than ourselves for our own poor choices or lack of initiative? My self respect doesn't allow such luxuries |
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nope, I don't do blame
I hold the culture ACCOUNTABLE for the environment in which people find themselves struggling,,, |
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sidenote: I don't understand why any married person, person with spousal support or child support or any SINGLE person would need welfare never, while I was married, or when I only had MYSELF to look after would I have needed assistance either,,, only when someone else unable to look after themselves depended upon me for food, for shelter, for nurturing and companionship, when someone elses needs put boundaries on my schedule when someone elses impressionability was impacted by my choices and my example,,, did assistance become a blessing that was available to help US through,,,when no other resource (spouse, income) was available to do so,, And if this system weren't in place.... what do you draw on? I suppose crime would be the next thing, as I don't plan to allow my children to starve or be without SAFE shelter,,, So you admit to an entitlement mindset? Rather than create to support need you would steal from others? no, I have a PARENT mindset,, stealing isn't the only crime there is while SEARCHING for work, Getting an interview, waiting for the callback and WAITING for that first check, and HOPING it covers the other bills with enough left over for FOOD its a good chance my child would have starved,,,,,and that aint happening so I would do what was necessary to GET THROUGH until I did have an income that could sustain us,,,, My family once lived in a car while I got back on my feet. My children said I could build a castle from a cardboard box. We camped out. A week or so later I had a job but we remained until we could afford a move. I worked day jobs, we also volunteered for meals and facilities to "clean up". No entitlements! We made the best of what we were forced into. My kids even today look back on that time as a moment to remember with a smile.... a learning experience. What do entitlements teach us.... our children? You said it yourself. When times get hard, "crime" is the next option, not trying harder with what you are given! You don't know what need is obviously |
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safety nets are a necessity Sure safety nets are a necessity, so build one. Stealing from others for a failure to act responsibility is no excuse. one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids So the real responsibility lies with others for their irresponsible behavior of not having something ready when another "needs" it. And to have children when there is no means to support them, criminal. This is where I think Child Protective Services actually has a just cause. its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps. Actually, it's the culture of the freeloader that believes that should have more than they contribute. You need more, become worth more, otherwise there are others that would gladly do what is asked for the same or less earnings. its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility. Really. So irresponsibility of one's actions is the problem of others. Another of the entitlement breeds "rights", to act not like a responsible adult but a spoiled brat. The "I" can do as "I" please and dang the consequences. Then when the consequences come as the invariably will, it is now the responsibility of others to support their wrongs. its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, And yes it is the culture, but not of the capitalist or egotist, but of the freeloader. One that is entitled to take all but never having to earn anything. |
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nope, I don't do blame I hold the culture ACCOUNTABLE for the environment in which people find themselves struggling,,, And that is the freeloader mentality in a nutshell as they say. |
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sidenote: I don't understand why any married person, person with spousal support or child support or any SINGLE person would need welfare never, while I was married, or when I only had MYSELF to look after would I have needed assistance either,,, only when someone else unable to look after themselves depended upon me for food, for shelter, for nurturing and companionship, when someone elses needs put boundaries on my schedule when someone elses impressionability was impacted by my choices and my example,,, did assistance become a blessing that was available to help US through,,,when no other resource (spouse, income) was available to do so,, And if this system weren't in place.... what do you draw on? I suppose crime would be the next thing, as I don't plan to allow my children to starve or be without SAFE shelter,,, So you admit to an entitlement mindset? Rather than create to support need you would steal from others? no, I have a PARENT mindset,, stealing isn't the only crime there is while SEARCHING for work, Getting an interview, waiting for the callback and WAITING for that first check, and HOPING it covers the other bills with enough left over for FOOD its a good chance my child would have starved,,,,,and that aint happening so I would do what was necessary to GET THROUGH until I did have an income that could sustain us,,,, My family once lived in a car while I got back on my feet. My children said I could build a castle from a cardboard box. We camped out. A week or so later I had a job but we remained until we could afford a move. I worked day jobs, we also volunteered for meals and facilities to "clean up". No entitlements! We made the best of what we were forced into. My kids even today look back on that time as a moment to remember with a smile.... a learning experience. What do entitlements teach us.... our children? You said it yourself. When times get hard, "crime" is the next option, not trying harder with what you are given! You don't know what need is obviously great for you,, I don't plan to leave my kids alone in a car while Im working like I said 'safe' haven is important to me I wouldn't consider that a safe option,, although people such as yourself have obviously survived it having been sexually assaulted TWICE, I prefer not to risk that with my daughter,,,, |
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safety nets are a necessity Sure safety nets are a necessity, so build one. Stealing from others for a failure to act responsibility is no excuse. one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids So the real responsibility lies with others for their irresponsible behavior of not having something ready when another "needs" it. And to have children when there is no means to support them, criminal. This is where I think Child Protective Services actually has a just cause. its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps. Actually, it's the culture of the freeloader that believes that should have more than they contribute. You need more, become worth more, otherwise there are others that would gladly do what is asked for the same or less earnings. its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility. Really. So irresponsibility of one's actions is the problem of others. Another of the entitlement breeds "rights", to act not like a responsible adult but a spoiled brat. The "I" can do as "I" please and dang the consequences. Then when the consequences come as the invariably will, it is now the responsibility of others to support their wrongs. its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, And yes it is the culture, but not of the capitalist or egotist, but of the freeloader. One that is entitled to take all but never having to earn anything. what is 'irresponsible' about people becoming ill or being laid off or losing a spouse (And their contribution of income) or becoming elderly or being BORN into a family that becomes broken? the poor have to EARN just as much as anyone else, but while they are waiting for the opportunity to EARN, the job offers, the FIRST checks ,,,they just might need some assistance being able to EAT or have SHELTER what about that doesn't get through to people? |
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safety nets are a necessity Sure safety nets are a necessity, so build one. Stealing from others for a failure to act responsibility is no excuse. one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids So the real responsibility lies with others for their irresponsible behavior of not having something ready when another "needs" it. And to have children when there is no means to support them, criminal. This is where I think Child Protective Services actually has a just cause. its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps. Actually, it's the culture of the freeloader that believes that should have more than they contribute. You need more, become worth more, otherwise there are others that would gladly do what is asked for the same or less earnings. its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility. Really. So irresponsibility of one's actions is the problem of others. Another of the entitlement breeds "rights", to act not like a responsible adult but a spoiled brat. The "I" can do as "I" please and dang the consequences. Then when the consequences come as the invariably will, it is now the responsibility of others to support their wrongs. its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, And yes it is the culture, but not of the capitalist or egotist, but of the freeloader. One that is entitled to take all but never having to earn anything. what is 'irresponsible' about people becoming ill or being laid off or losing a spouse (And their contribution of income) or becoming elderly or being BORN into a family that becomes broken? the poor have to EARN just as much as anyone else, but while they are waiting for the opportunity to EARN, the job offers, the FIRST checks ,,,they just might need some assistance being able to EAT or have SHELTER what about that doesn't get through to people? I don't understand your position that there is practically nothing available to the poor. Housing.. education.. food.. the list goes on and on for things that are subsidized. The federal government alone is going to spend $500 billion dollars on the poor. Each state spends hundreds of millions if not more.. Churches.. Private donations.. The amount of money available is staggering.. If you want to take people that complain about the money being spent to task that is your choice.. But to imply that there is next to nothing available is being disingenuous.. |
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safety nets are a necessity Sure safety nets are a necessity, so build one. Stealing from others for a failure to act responsibility is no excuse. one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids So the real responsibility lies with others for their irresponsible behavior of not having something ready when another "needs" it. And to have children when there is no means to support them, criminal. This is where I think Child Protective Services actually has a just cause. its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps. Actually, it's the culture of the freeloader that believes that should have more than they contribute. You need more, become worth more, otherwise there are others that would gladly do what is asked for the same or less earnings. its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility. Really. So irresponsibility of one's actions is the problem of others. Another of the entitlement breeds "rights", to act not like a responsible adult but a spoiled brat. The "I" can do as "I" please and dang the consequences. Then when the consequences come as the invariably will, it is now the responsibility of others to support their wrongs. its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, And yes it is the culture, but not of the capitalist or egotist, but of the freeloader. One that is entitled to take all but never having to earn anything. what is 'irresponsible' about people becoming ill or being laid off or losing a spouse (And their contribution of income) or becoming elderly or being BORN into a family that becomes broken? the poor have to EARN just as much as anyone else, but while they are waiting for the opportunity to EARN, the job offers, the FIRST checks ,,,they just might need some assistance being able to EAT or have SHELTER what about that doesn't get through to people? What part of stealing from me and mine to support another is so hard to understand? It is the immutable law of nature, fend for yourself or die, after all vultures where put here to keep the place clean. |
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If you want to take people that complain about the money being spent to task that is your choice.. But to imply that there is next to nothing available is being disingenuous.. What spent? In order for the government to spend, it first must take. |
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safety nets are a necessity Sure safety nets are a necessity, so build one. Stealing from others for a failure to act responsibility is no excuse. one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids So the real responsibility lies with others for their irresponsible behavior of not having something ready when another "needs" it. And to have children when there is no means to support them, criminal. This is where I think Child Protective Services actually has a just cause. its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps. Actually, it's the culture of the freeloader that believes that should have more than they contribute. You need more, become worth more, otherwise there are others that would gladly do what is asked for the same or less earnings. its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility. Really. So irresponsibility of one's actions is the problem of others. Another of the entitlement breeds "rights", to act not like a responsible adult but a spoiled brat. The "I" can do as "I" please and dang the consequences. Then when the consequences come as the invariably will, it is now the responsibility of others to support their wrongs. its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, And yes it is the culture, but not of the capitalist or egotist, but of the freeloader. One that is entitled to take all but never having to earn anything. what is 'irresponsible' about people becoming ill or being laid off or losing a spouse (And their contribution of income) or becoming elderly or being BORN into a family that becomes broken? the poor have to EARN just as much as anyone else, but while they are waiting for the opportunity to EARN, the job offers, the FIRST checks ,,,they just might need some assistance being able to EAT or have SHELTER what about that doesn't get through to people? I don't understand your position that there is practically nothing available to the poor. Housing.. education.. food.. the list goes on and on for things that are subsidized. The federal government alone is going to spend $500 billion dollars on the poor. Each state spends hundreds of millions if not more.. Churches.. Private donations.. The amount of money available is staggering.. If you want to take people that complain about the money being spent to task that is your choice.. But to imply that there is next to nothing available is being disingenuous.. I don't understand how you got out of that there is nothing available for the poor there are well needed SAFETY NETS,, that my point and I am taking to task people who gripe about such safety nets being in place,,, |
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safety nets are a necessity Sure safety nets are a necessity, so build one. Stealing from others for a failure to act responsibility is no excuse. one that would not be needed by so many if there were better paying jobs, and more INVOLVED And responsible parents taking financial responsibility for their kids So the real responsibility lies with others for their irresponsible behavior of not having something ready when another "needs" it. And to have children when there is no means to support them, criminal. This is where I think Child Protective Services actually has a just cause. its the CULTURE, that allows scraps to some of the hardest workers while telling them they don't contribute anything when they find themselves needing more than those scraps. Actually, it's the culture of the freeloader that believes that should have more than they contribute. You need more, become worth more, otherwise there are others that would gladly do what is asked for the same or less earnings. its the CULTURE that promotes free and casual sex that tells people they don't have to take the consequences with any serious sense of responsibility. Really. So irresponsibility of one's actions is the problem of others. Another of the entitlement breeds "rights", to act not like a responsible adult but a spoiled brat. The "I" can do as "I" please and dang the consequences. Then when the consequences come as the invariably will, it is now the responsibility of others to support their wrongs. its the CULTURE, that create a myth of meritocracy wherein everyone believes they have it because they 'earned' it and those who don't have deserve not to have because they didn't 'contribute' its the CAPITALST/EGOTIST CULTURE,,,, And yes it is the culture, but not of the capitalist or egotist, but of the freeloader. One that is entitled to take all but never having to earn anything. what is 'irresponsible' about people becoming ill or being laid off or losing a spouse (And their contribution of income) or becoming elderly or being BORN into a family that becomes broken? the poor have to EARN just as much as anyone else, but while they are waiting for the opportunity to EARN, the job offers, the FIRST checks ,,,they just might need some assistance being able to EAT or have SHELTER what about that doesn't get through to people? What part of stealing from me and mine to support another is so hard to understand? It is the immutable law of nature, fend for yourself or die, after all vultures where put here to keep the place clean. how do we steal from you? I thought you were someone who was too enlightened to pay taxes? |
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how do we steal from you? I thought you were someone who was too enlightened to pay taxes? Again, absolutely clueless. I don't pay income taxes but that isn't used for entitlements for the citizens. Income tax is to pay the interest on the national debt and was part of the Federal Reserve deal. Such a miniscule amount compared to what the government hauls in as taxes on an annual basis but it is increasing as the debt keeps climbing. It is the cost for goods and services that I pay for that is being stolen. Electric Utility taxes Water/Sewage taxes Communications taxes from phone and cable companies Property taxes Excise taxes Sales taxes Gasoline taxes Import taxes And so many more it is impossible to list them. Just these non-payroll takes consume 15 to 20 percent of a persons income, well beyond the fees required to run a just government. Didn't you ever wonder where all those other trillions of dollars come from? Most entitlement people don't, they are too busy with the me, me, me syndrom. So yes, money is stolen from me by increasing my cost of living to support others, the entitlement class. |
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sidenote: I don't understand why any married person, person with spousal support or child support or any SINGLE person would need welfare never, while I was married, or when I only had MYSELF to look after would I have needed assistance either,,, only when someone else unable to look after themselves depended upon me for food, for shelter, for nurturing and companionship, when someone elses needs put boundaries on my schedule when someone elses impressionability was impacted by my choices and my example,,, did assistance become a blessing that was available to help US through,,,when no other resource (spouse, income) was available to do so,, And if this system weren't in place.... what do you draw on? I suppose crime would be the next thing, as I don't plan to allow my children to starve or be without SAFE shelter,,, So you admit to an entitlement mindset? Rather than create to support need you would steal from others? no, I have a PARENT mindset,, stealing isn't the only crime there is while SEARCHING for work, Getting an interview, waiting for the callback and WAITING for that first check, and HOPING it covers the other bills with enough left over for FOOD its a good chance my child would have starved,,,,,and that aint happening so I would do what was necessary to GET THROUGH until I did have an income that could sustain us,,,, My family once lived in a car while I got back on my feet. My children said I could build a castle from a cardboard box. We camped out. A week or so later I had a job but we remained until we could afford a move. I worked day jobs, we also volunteered for meals and facilities to "clean up". No entitlements! We made the best of what we were forced into. My kids even today look back on that time as a moment to remember with a smile.... a learning experience. What do entitlements teach us.... our children? You said it yourself. When times get hard, "crime" is the next option, not trying harder with what you are given! You don't know what need is obviously great for you,, I don't plan to leave my kids alone in a car while Im working like I said 'safe' haven is important to me I wouldn't consider that a safe option,, although people such as yourself have obviously survived it having been sexually assaulted TWICE, I prefer not to risk that with my daughter,,,, So "camping" is an unsafe option? My kids were in school while I worked, then at my work waiting for me, doing homework, or at the library. At no time were they ever in any "jeopardy" or an unsafe environment (other than at school). Had I sought resources they may have been taken from my custody, no matter how temporary the situation may have been. THAT would have been more harsh than any discomfort we were exposed to by our situation. You chose to take from others for your life choices because you desired a "sperm donor" for your child that we all ended up forced to pay support for.... and you call us unreasonable? You say it was all about your child.... I think it was all about you not making better life choices and subjecting your child to your bad judgement and life choices..... then expecting others to pay for them |
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how do we steal from you? I thought you were someone who was too enlightened to pay taxes? Again, absolutely clueless. I don't pay income taxes but that isn't used for entitlements for the citizens. Income tax is to pay the interest on the national debt and was part of the Federal Reserve deal. Such a miniscule amount compared to what the government hauls in as taxes on an annual basis but it is increasing as the debt keeps climbing. It is the cost for goods and services that I pay for that is being stolen. Electric Utility taxes Water/Sewage taxes Communications taxes from phone and cable companies Property taxes Excise taxes Sales taxes Gasoline taxes Import taxes And so many more it is impossible to list them. Just these non-payroll takes consume 15 to 20 percent of a persons income, well beyond the fees required to run a just government. Didn't you ever wonder where all those other trillions of dollars come from? Most entitlement people don't, they are too busy with the me, me, me syndrom. So yes, money is stolen from me by increasing my cost of living to support others, the entitlement class. lol, so you are arguing that service and sales taxes are STOLEN from you to pay welfare?..lol ok well, those types of taxes are paid by people, regardless of income level, who receive service or purchase items,,lol |
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